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QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Aug 5, 2014 -> 11:51 AM) To be honest, the only people I ever see citing the argument that there's "one perfect number" to use in player evaluations are those criticising sabermetrics. They're arguing against an offensive notion in their heads that has never actually existed in reality. There are some numbers that are ideal for answering specific questions, but the broader the question being asked, the more information you need to answer it. And the more information you need to input, the less precise you can be. Most questions that fans want answered about players and teams are very broad and require a long look at a lot of different information. I don't think there is any proponent of sabermetrics anywhere in the public sphere that disagrees with this. This applies to all statistics, btw, not the newish ones. "Who is the best hitter" is answered poorly by using just RBI, just as "who is the better pitcher" is answered poorly by using just WPA. I'm not even necessarily thinking of just one statistic, as much as I am that some statistics, but nothing else, should be the indicator of whether someone is a useful mlb player or not moving forward. It's usually a bit more complicated than that.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Aug 5, 2014 -> 11:40 AM) Yeah, but literally no one has made an argument that you should. Not the posters here, not the media pundits, not the general managers. With the way some folks summarily dismiss or glorify certain players at times, it can certainly seem that way.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Aug 5, 2014 -> 11:21 AM) So should we stop treating people for cancer until we find a cure that works every time? No, you use all of the best info you can, Dick. Why wouldn't you? All the poster did was cite some low FIPs to try to find an indicator of what Hahn might have seen in these guys. Does finding guys with high strikeouts, low walks, and low homeruns sound like a bad starting point for building a bullpen? I think he's saying you shouldn't go all in on one methodology if one can't particularly trust the results.

I have a hard time blaming that one on Jose

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Aug 4, 2014 -> 05:13 PM) Maybe as soon as next year. Last year, he rightfully spent the whole offseason upgrading the offense first, and did a goddamn good job of it. If he hadn't, we wouldn't be in pseudo-contention in the first place and this would be a moot point. You guys are taking a season that went WAY better than expected and turning it into a BAD thing somehow. I'm not going to pissed at Hahn because he managed to turn the team around so quickly but fell short of a damn world championship, lol. The key has obviously been Abreu. We somewhat unknowingly (at least this quickly)signed an MVP contender. Then Alexei has a bit of a resurgence, and Q and Eaton put together very solid years. Had we known all this coming into the season, we might have invested a bit more in the bullpen. I will say this much...you can always move great bullpen pieces at the break. The Cubs, Orioles and others have utilized this as a method of acquiring young talent even in down years. Unfortunately for us, the two guys we did sign this year have been worse than back hair. Dick, you're as hypocritical as they come. Why should we listen to your thoughts on being a General Manager? What is your previous experience in General Managing? Do you have any front office experience? May I see your resume prior to any further comments on Rick Hahn's performance? Where were all these comments prior to these signings going poorly? Can you document for me your opposition to the Scott Downs and Ronald Bellisario acquisitions? I'd like to see more credit given to Rick by you for the Jose Abreu and Adam Eaton acquisitions.

In this run scoring environment, give me Jose

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Aug 4, 2014 -> 01:11 PM) Quite possibly the worst gamethread starter in the history of MLB. I can't think of anyone else as bad. Not true...his TIGS (Team Independent Gamethread Posting) is actually +124....he just has a sorry group behind him...

Should have won this f***ing game

Poops

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Aug 2, 2014 -> 06:58 PM) Part of it is coincidence. Part of it is a kid who should be in AA, still learning the league, pitch selection etc. He really isn't as terrible as some of you guys seem to imply.

Every time I get excited about this team, they do this

Plouffe is a machine against us

This ump has a 10 pm reservation at the Chophouse

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 2, 2014 -> 06:54 PM) I can't imagine what the meathead, casual fan thinks of the Reed for Davidson trade when all they do is look at Reed's save total and Davidson's .198 average in AAA. Oh c'mon now, you've seen those opinions

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Aug 2, 2014 -> 06:53 PM) I have seen enough of Webb for awhile. Has he really been that bad?

QUOTE (Vance Law @ Aug 2, 2014 -> 06:53 PM) Because he was going to give up a home run

Perhaps that is why

Now why didn't we bring in Webb to start the 8th?

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Aug 2, 2014 -> 06:50 PM) It was extremely close and Hawk was saying it was definitive that Eaton got his right hand in there. Well making s*** up would seem to be if he was saying that when he was clearly out.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 2, 2014 -> 06:48 PM) No way should he have tried going to 2nd after not running out of the box. That's the third bad base running play by Eaton in the last 2 innings. Well it was off the guy's glove before he could take a step really

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Aug 2, 2014 -> 06:46 PM) I think he's out. Real close. And Hawk is flat out making s*** up. You just said it was real close

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 2, 2014 -> 06:45 PM) Looks safe to me I think so too, but I don't think it's definitive

C'mon Adam

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 2, 2014 -> 06:42 PM) I love when you make things up. Just pointing out every criticism before the result the last 3 games was wrong and not one time did the critic admit they were wrong. You are the only one who thinks you were still correct so you think you are smarter than everyone else. Well that makes perfect sense.

Swung at ball four