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QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 12:36 PM) Whatever players on the 40 man they wanted to trade would have to get by Houston. That's it. Hah, good point. Although Houston will take anyone we would be interested in, presumably.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 12:34 PM) Basically yes. That's actually how a functioning market should work...the team signing those guys should be the top bidding team. That means the team signing them should be willing to pay more for them than any other team. If a guy could be signed and put on waivers the very next day, in theory, no one should claim him because no one was willing to meet that price the day beforehand. The only reason why another team would be willing to claim that contract is if the player's value to that other team increases for some reason beyond what they were willing to pay on the free agent market. I think he's just following up on his post a few weeks back about owners paying players way too much money.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 12:28 PM) Ellsbury is represented by Scott Boras. So is Shin Soo Choo. All teams get an additional $25 million this year. Keeping that in mind, be aware that Michael Bourn signed a 4 year, $48 million contract with the Indians. Bourn is not as good as either of them, nor is he as well known. You are legitimately talking about both of those two players getting upwards of $20 million a year. Just so we're aware. If Choo gets that then Boras truly will have earned his money.

QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 12:11 PM) I really disagree with 1. There's a lot for him to work on there. I was surprised to hear Stone say he had nothing left to prove there.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 12:15 PM) There is, CF Possibly, but Dunn should not be sitting.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 12:06 PM) I'm still torn on what to get my wife. Government Motors just started a 5k off promotion on the Volt. Added with the Federal tax credit of $7,500 and the Illinois rebate for electric cars (10% of the base price of the car, so about $4k), I could basically get one for $24k. And the nice part is that my wife's commute (20-25 miles max) is less than the 38 mile range on the car. According to Chevy you can charge the thing for $1.60/day (assume that's a really low estimate and double it and that's still about a grand a year for "fuel"). Very, very tempting. Ford isn't offering any good finance deals on the ford fusion hybrid or the energi (the plug-in model) doesn't get any of the tax credits (as far as I can tell). Decisions, decisions. Also, Exelon may offer you a special rate for charging it. Our company offers a lower rate for electric vehicle owners between 10 PM and 6 AM and that includes all the electricity you use during that time, not just charging your car.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 12:09 PM) One of the beat writers was suggesting that this opens a roster spot for Garcia. I really, really doubt they bring up Garcia to add to the current OF. I don't think he comes up unless/until Rios is gone or rosters expand in September, whichever comes first. I can't see them having Garcia or any of the three OF starters riding the bench. Sanchez coming up would be a surprise, he's not been hitting AAA pitching this season, though he's shown occasional signs of improvement in recent weeks. Tekotte makes some sense. Stone has been making it very clear in recent broadcasts that Garcia isn't coming up until there is a full-time spot for him.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 11:52 AM) LOL, he's a friend of mine so a guy can dream. Texas would be a good trading partner if they were desperate enough to fill Cruz's position. I used to see him and Jenks on the northside quite a bit around '05-'06 I always liked him.

QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 07:44 AM) I"ve had the one for a few months now. Never thought about the power button issue, but then again, i have normal sized hands that can hold things. All the experience of switching phones has done is convince me that iphone 4 was probably apples greatest version to date and I miss it, and that you guys are crazy to have such heated opinions about the marginal benefits over each phone. That said I like the 6-second video thing on the one, should be fun now that instagram can upload videos. I was just thinking this...but I guess someone has to do it!

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 11:45 AM) Neal Cotts coming back from the Rangers..... That's the "Handsome Neal Cotts" to you, Rock

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 11:21 AM) You think those two would get along? I can see them as maybe the types that respected one another becasue they stayed out of each ohter's way. They don't need to get along. They were in the same clubhouse for a few years though. They may just want to know if he is a cancer or not. Of course asking AJ if someone else is a cancer is somewhat humorous

QUOTE (southside hitman @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 11:21 AM) No way. Hahn was asking for the moon just a week ago. He would lose all credibility. If we were in a completely salary dump rebuild, then possibly, but we are looking for talent to help us back. We don't know if teams were asking for salary relief or not though before the deadline.

Makes me wonder if AJ vouched for Rios.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 11:13 AM) According to the bleacher report article I just linked, 48 hours is the claiming period and 72 hours is the "Time post-claim to get a deal done" deadline. Yeah, that sounds right. I remember having to wait 3 days to find out if we were getting Rios.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 11:07 AM) If the White Sox pull him back, the only thing they can do with him is put him on irrevocable waivers. If he were to be claimed on irrevocable waivers, he gone. If somehow he made it through waivers that time, I think he could be traded again. That's a pretty complicated setup though...would require this to be a blocking maneuver, Hahn to pull him back, then Hahn to say "screw it" and risk losing him for nothing later in the year. I'm probably Rios' biggest defender other than his mother, and previously I was in favor of keeping him unless we got good value back in a deal, but now I am leaning towards just doing whatever we can to blow up the whole thing and start from scratch.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 11:03 AM) It's also possible that he was claimed by a team who wouldn't want him, entirely as a blocking maneuver, to keep him away from Pittsburgh or Texas or someone like that. That team could be gambling based on Hahn's trade-deadline asking price for Rios that Hahn won't let him go for nothing. Yep, like I said...a good game of chicken. How long do we have to work out a deal again? And if we pull him back, we can't move him during the waiver period, correct? A guy has to clear waivers for a deal to be worked out with a team of the seller's choice, correct?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 11:00 AM) I think the Sox will pull him back unless they receive something. It should be an interesting game of chicken.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 11:00 AM) I'm wondering if the same thing happens as when we claimed him off Toronto. "We'll take... actually never mind just take all his money" This would be my guess.

QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 10:58 AM) Do they try to work a deal or just let them have him and his contract?? They can try and work something out, but if they can't, we can just let them have him. By claiming him, they are now responsible for his salary if we are willing to let him go.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 10:56 AM) Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal Sources: #WhiteSox’s Alex Rios claimed on waivers. Claiming team not known. Owed $13M next season with $13.5M club option in ’15. MORE 12:52pm · 8 Aug 13 Well, there is $15 million off the books.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Aug 7, 2013 -> 09:00 PM) Stone is awesome, just not with Hawk. He's the best local baseball guy around by far but it doesn't show. Hawk and Wimpy are so good together. Even Hawk haters will admit that. See that was my point...I think now that Hawk is resigned to us blowing, they make a good tandem.

Hawk and Stone are actually very nice to listen to now that Hawk has accepted we are going to suck for the immediate future. Not sure why folks don't care for Stone.

Yes!!

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 7, 2013 -> 06:40 PM) Going off of what they said, it would be a pure salary dump with little coming in return. I think in Dunn's case, we may be able to get a few warm bodies, but yeah, the waiver process does not provide the selling team with much leverage other than financial.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 7, 2013 -> 06:34 PM) I think Dunn is the one who's gonna get traded. Hard to argue