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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jun 5, 2010 -> 08:50 AM) I agree with what you're saying generally, it's just that those two sentences contradicted themselves about three times. I don't fault Kenny for the Peavy trade and never got on him for Rios. The problem has been under-achieving talent eg Buehrle, Floyd, Beckham, Alexi, AJ, Quentin and some crap in the pen. But that doesn't excuse some of the moves like getting and extended Teahan, thinking Vizquel would be worth anything, trading for Pierre, etc. If you reverse those moves, this team is still mediocre, but they're still bad moves. I agree, but to be honest, there are really not many other moves that could have been made that were going to make a difference. Let's face it, our big push came last season, when we acquired Peavy and Rios. Those two acquisitions were for the most part, supposed to give the team a huge lift this year. One has, and one has not. By the time the offseason came, we were basically looking at being bit players seeking to supplement a nearly completed roster. The big additions had already been made.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jun 5, 2010 -> 07:43 AM) And off topic but is anyone else tired of looking at the disgusting man in my avatar? LOL Yes, who the hell is that anyways?

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jun 5, 2010 -> 07:34 AM) No kidding. This is the type of blatantly obvious bulls*** that you'd expect to hear about in some 3rd world country. Not here. Unfortunately, it's not. This is exactly the sort of horses*** that flies when the system is protecting one of its own as opposed to looking to f*** a regular citizen because drunk driving is a cash cow for individual municipalities as well as the state.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jun 5, 2010 -> 08:29 AM) That part makes no sense. You say it's because veterans are not performing, but then you say 5 or 6 veterans who are not performing aren't the problem. You list Jake Peavy as not a problem and as a problem. You list Carlos, Gavin and Gordon as part of the "veterans not performing" problem when none of them are really established veterans. And, yeah, having 20% of your roster be a bunch of underperforming veterans in Pierre, Jones, Vizquel, Kotsay and Teahan is definitely part of the problem. Fair points. It's early, and I was trying to point out DA's opinions as to Kenny and intermingle them into the success and failures of the team (as well as looking at players at the time the acquisitions were made by Kenny). Obviously that was a bit of a clusterf***. The point I am trying to make about Jake Peavy is that it's difficult to fault the acquisition of Jake. I have a really hard time understanding criticism of that move, especially considering the way he pitched for us at the end of last season, or that you could have somehow foreseen him performing this poorly. The general point I am making is the same as NSS has been making for weeks. The new acquisitions and the offseason Kenny had are not the problem. The problem is the core of the team is not performing. The players that no one was claiming needed to be jettisoned are those that are failing us. Not Kenny, not Ozzie, THE PLAYERS. Did you see many posters calling for Mark or Gavin to get traded? Or that Jake would suck this bad? Or that Gordon would be this terrible? Or Carlos? Or AJ? The problem I have is that you can complain all you want about the offseason Kenny had, but that really has not been the problem at all. Unless you were calling for a complete rebuild of this team, ripping apart the core and trading everyone, you were wrong, just like Kenny and Ozzie were.

QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Jun 5, 2010 -> 07:01 AM) Prosecutors didn't show the video of him taking shots at the bar? Bartender testified that the shots were WATER? Is this a joke? And what does it even matter if he was taking shots of water. He could have been taking gallons of water, that doesn't mean he wasn't drinking at the same time. What a f***ing joke. This sort of evidence would be laughed at if this were a regular citizen.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 4, 2010 -> 10:10 PM) 1/3 of the way through the season and one 3 game winning streak, and only a couple 2 game winning streaks, and there are still people thinking remaining status quo can still result in a successful season? KW, OG and JR should be embarrassed. I agree with WC....why are you so damn quick to blame the coaches and FO, when it's the players who are the ones not performing? All I heard you rag on Kenny about was Alex Rios, and how claiming him on waivers was an accident and a mistake and prohibited us from getting other FAs. Meanwhile, the guy has been one of the best players in ALL of baseball for the first 60 games and you're going to blame this on Kenny. Of course. You also said Peavy was Kenny's best deal ever. Not many, if anyone, predicted Jake could be this bad. But KW should be embarrassed. Right. That's just hypocrisy. The problem with this team is the veterans are not performing. The problem is not Juan Pierre, or Alex Rios, or Jake Peavy, or Andruw Jones, or Omar Vizquel, or Mark Kotsay, or even Mark Teahan. The problem is Mark, Gavin, Jake, Carlos, AJ, and Gordon. And if you foresaw those guys all sucking, well kudos to you. You are a better GM than KW and have a better eye than Ozzie. Then you can say they should be embarrassed. But I don't remember seeing anyone on this board say our problem would be starting pitching and a lack of offense from our core hitters.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Jun 4, 2010 -> 03:14 PM) The Nick Johnson story is a sad one. Even with the slow start he had this year, he's such a good, solid player on the rare occasion he stays healthy. And yeah, the Brett Anderson news is a killer for the A's. Don't know if they can survive without him. I feel for Nick Johnson, but take a look at the dude...does he even try to work out? I brought this up in the Spring when he tweaked something. He looks like he could be working behind the desk at your local Meinecke dealership or something. Treat your body a little better and maybe it will hold up a little better for you...

Back and Chest tonight....nailed it...GRRRRRRRR

QUOTE (girlslikebaseballtoo#26 @ Jun 4, 2010 -> 06:57 PM) Boy?!?! ..It takes a man to put up with me! I may be shy, but I'm a feisty little s*** too!! HAHA ..I've got attitude for days! Ahh, you think you're a handful...but trust me, you're not... Thanks for bringing the enthusiasm to this part of the board. You're a very welcome addition and your contributions are much appreciated.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 4, 2010 -> 06:51 PM) There is absolutely no reason the Sox shouldn't win this game tonight. If only that meant something...

QUOTE (girlslikebaseballtoo#26 @ Jun 4, 2010 -> 05:40 PM) I AM!! I have horrible social anxiety issues!! I won't even order my own food when i go out to eat! Ahh, well good thing you found this boy then... Good work.

QUOTE (girlslikebaseballtoo#26 @ Jun 4, 2010 -> 05:10 PM) OKAYY ..I see your joke and to you i say, BITE ME!! HAHAHA ..I kid as well!! In all seriousness, we have a lot of fun together no matter what we do, the alcohol helped in the beginning because I'm so shy ..I had to have it to be less inhibited!! BUT, these days, i don't give a crap!! lol Riiiiight....you're shy...

I don't mind when the veteran cops look out for one another...they have been through a lot of wars together... It's when the younger cops have the sense of power and entitlement and abuse it that I get angry.

QUOTE (girlslikebaseballtoo#26 @ Jun 4, 2010 -> 05:58 PM) I made a deal with my fiance ..if i quit, he quits!! It's working for us so i see no reason to not do it ya know?! It's not like I was an alcoholic, nor was he, but it really wasn't a valuable attribute to our relationship or our lives in a whole. Hmm, sounds like the beginnings of a miserable relationship to me... Again, I kid....

QUOTE (girlslikebaseballtoo#26 @ Jun 4, 2010 -> 04:49 PM) Ohh yess, Jagermeister!! That's another love i get from my mother!! HAHA ..My youngest sister and I both love it ..BUT i don't drink anymore as of about 4 months ago! At all? Why not?

QUOTE (girlslikebaseballtoo#26 @ Jun 4, 2010 -> 04:13 PM) I'm not saying Football isn't a man sport, because God knows i love a good game of Football .. I love the sound of the clacking of helmet on helmet contact and watching a guy do flips and land on his noggin when he gets hit ..the best is when they get taken down in mid flight ..I LOVE watching a guy get smacked out of the air!! AHHHH ..I need to watch Football now!! HAHA ...Baseball is just more my thing, it's just so American and timeless ya know?! Who doesn't enjoy, hotdogs, nachos, peanuts and beer?!?! (I, myself, would prefer Jagermeister, but that's not a Baseball thing!!) Jagermeister?? Hah, I remember those days...

This is going to be absolutely priceless...

QUOTE (girlslikebaseballtoo#26 @ Jun 4, 2010 -> 04:09 PM) ME TOO!!! I was going to order it like 3 months ago when it was on sale, but i missed out ..I WILL own it though!! Took me a few days to finish all the disks from season 1 ..it's what i did during off season! haha ...I guess I'll need to order season 2 soon so i can get into season 3 ..NO TIME THOUGH! What to do?! lol ... ..Anywayyy, I heard from Blackwood a little while ago, looks like all the other teams left spring training in AZ at the beginning of this week ..today was the last day for the umps ..sooo, now they will just play games amongst themselves until next friday ..after that they get 3-4 days off then they go to their teams!!! Can't wait to see where Blackwood's going! ..I've got my fingers crossed for GF!!! Yeah, it was on sale for like $40 at Best Buy....I guess I missed the boat on that one too...

QUOTE (girlslikebaseballtoo#26 @ Jun 4, 2010 -> 02:22 PM) I have to decide whether or not i want to be patient ..or if i want to watch on demand!!! Decisions!! I know...I'll probably just TiVo the whole series and then watch a marathon after the season concludes...I still have to buy season two and watch the season finale of that!

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 4, 2010 -> 02:19 PM) A question to ponder: if Grandal falls on draft day due to some of the uber-talented tough signs being picked high (Wilson, Karsten, Allie), do the Sox take him? Uh huh

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 4, 2010 -> 01:28 PM) So how do we judge which player hit 50 home runs in a season fair and square? By height.

QUOTE (girlslikebaseballtoo#26 @ Jun 4, 2010 -> 02:27 PM) That was my objective!!! lol Tru Blood pic huh? ..Don't even get me started on that subject!! haha June 13th!

This Blackwood fella is reaching legendary status mighty quickly...

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 4, 2010 -> 12:27 PM) Posts like this make me laugh. The things people complained most about in February - lack of power, rotating DH, bullpen, Teahen's bat, Pierre's all-around game... are not the main reasons why this team has sucked. So don't give me this crap that you were somehow preternatural in knowing how this season would go, and smarter than everyone else. This team is 7.5 games back because the vaunted starting pitching has an ERA north of 5, and many of the key offensive players have sucked (Quentin, Beckham, Ramirez, Pierzynski). These were things that were not anticipated. Sure, some people had conerns about Quentin specifically, or about Peavy's recovery. But I would like someone to show me any poster who predicted the starting staff would be 4/5 bad, and that all four of those guys would be hitting 50-100 points below normal for the first two months. Good luck. Yeah, to be honest, no one could have anticipated this team sucking in the way it has sucked this year. As bad as we have been offensively, if the strength of our club was performing as they are capable, we would be above .500 right now.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Jun 4, 2010 -> 10:49 AM) I assume you think 9/11 was a conspiracy as well. This was Kenny's team with Reinsdorf's budget. I doubt Ozzie wanted Teahan, Vasquel and Pierre. Ozzie wants a certain mold but definitely NOT these guys. You don't think he wanted Pierre? You don't think he is the VERY REASON Omar is here? You don't think he is the reason Kotsay is here? Despite what many seem to believe, this is Ozzie's team, no matter how badly some want to put the blame on Kenny. Certainly KW should not escape blame either, but the character of this roster was changed to appease Ozzie Guillen. Needless to say, this point is moot, as it has been the SP, at least IMHO, that has really cost us a chance at getting back in this thing.