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Yeah so this guy was just crazy: http://abcnews.go.com/US/shooting-alleged-...ory?id=33336339 Blamed his actions on the Charleston shooting, but then said he approved of other mass shootings like Virginia Tech and Columbine. He also claims that Jehovah told him to do it. Also of note, he's black and gay. Alpha, odds he was a registered GOP member?

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 26, 2015 -> 03:02 PM) When it's 16 of 18 people not believing, that does astound me a bit. I'm not really sure why. We've become less and less religious over time. Church scandals and extremists haven't really given religion a good name the last few decades. Communities used to be based around their local church, but that's not the case anymore. Churches and congregations are dying. Literally, the audiences are just old people in a lot of places. Once they go, the Church will too. edit: and others have said, you're on a message board on the internet. Members here are mostly "young," mostly affluent liberal people, i.e., the ones most likely to not be religious.

If there was no video of this event, is this even a story outside of the local broadcast area, or maybe Virginia? I mean, as someone else pointed out, 3 people were shot in Chicago just today. More will be shot tomorrow. We have no video, we just read about it, and no one really thinks twice about it. Video is becoming more and more influential in how we take in these events. From Ray Rice to Steve Sarkisian (5 years ago that's not even a news story) and now this.

QUOTE (flavum @ Aug 26, 2015 -> 01:31 PM) He died. That had to be the plan all along.

I wonder what that fax to ABC News said.

What a psycho. He pulls then gun out during the interview, then walks backwards and waits another 15-20 seconds before firing.

QUOTE (Jake @ Aug 26, 2015 -> 08:24 AM) Local news report near Roanoke VA was interrupted by gunman shooting cameraman, reporter to death. Person being interviewed is reportedly in surgery. The live feed gives a glimpse of the gunman, who was dressed in black and still holding his pistol towards the victims when the camera hit the ground. That video is pretty horrifying.

Anyone have a GoPro? Thinking about picking one up for a vacation. I don't really do any action sports other than biking. But I thought it might be cool to take to amusment parks, the beach, bike rides, hikes, etc. I don't know much about them. The bare bones option is $130, the top of the line is $500, plus accessories. I assume there's quite a leap in functionality between the two, but I wonder if that really matters to an amateur user like me.

Dow with quite the resurgence. Down 1k just after open, now only down 150

QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 24, 2015 -> 11:03 AM) Was reading something interesting on how china's huge investment into real estate to the point of overextension means they don't have an easy area to target to reinflate economy. They were/are pushing their citizens to buy up real estate in empty cities built for millions as great investments. It's crazy.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Aug 24, 2015 -> 10:15 AM) I've done pretty well with it in the past. I always err on the side of caution, because even if I miss an upswing in the markets, I'm earning 3% a year, which is a lot better than losing 5-10% in a week. Yeah but you could potentially be losing out on bigger gains when the market rallies. I invest the same amount of money every month and ride the waves up and down. This month I may add more to try to catch the bottom, but I never take out. 2008 was a great example of why that's a bad strategy.

QUOTE (juddling @ Aug 23, 2015 -> 03:18 PM) Fear the Walking Dead tonight......considering it will start out at the beginning of the 'outbreak', it will cover some non Walking Dead ground. Should make it a bit interesting watching the breakdown of society around them. I hope this does well..... I'd give it a B-. Kept me engaged, but i'm not sure any of the characters really wow me enough for me to stick with it.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Aug 24, 2015 -> 09:38 AM) Moved all of my retirement account out of the markets Friday. How old are you? Seems like a gamble if you still have years and years left before retirement. Timing the market has never worked, even for the pros.

Yeah, these last 2 weeks have sucked for my accounts.

QUOTE (Jake @ Aug 21, 2015 -> 03:15 PM) Since people like the idea of deterrence and clearly gun ownership doesn't prevent robberies (case in point). If running away from armed homeowner doesn't keep you from getting shot, why would a home invader not just start a shootout? The burglar clearly didn't intend to use the firearm, just as something to spook anyone inside. He figures that if he runs away he might go to jail but at least he isn't getting shot. When people try to convince folks like me that being armed is a powerful deterrent, they usually emphasize that an encounter like the one being described doesn't have to end violently. But now apparently it does and should. To be clear, I don't think the case we're talking about is 100% cut and dry or some example of the most egregious poor judgment or malice. But guns aren't toys and to the extent I'm willing to say that we should have them in our society, I expect more than the level of discretion any old person who might be handed a gun would have. This is why you hear some people horrified at how easy it is to procure a gun. You don't want it to both be easy to get a gun and have legal interpretations that assume the least from those who might try to use them justifiably. ?? That gun stopped the robbery. Id say it was a pretty effective detterent.

http://thebiglead.com/2015/08/21/the-madde...ther-craziness/ Kinda funny.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Aug 21, 2015 -> 10:15 AM) I dont applaud people who shoot other people in the back. It wasn't just some random person though, it was a guy that just invaded your home and pulled a gun on you. But you have to agree this is a very limited case. This isn't some mini-bar fight gone bad. This guy had his house invaded and a gun pulled on him.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Aug 21, 2015 -> 07:28 AM) In Indiana, if you are committing armed robbery in conjunction with one or more other persons and one of those other persons dies at the hands of a third party due to justified self-defense, you can be charged with murder. Yeah the newspaper story said the 2nd robber is also charged with the murder in this case.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 20, 2015 -> 06:56 PM) If someone had just had a gun on me, it is hard to say any "fear" would be gone that quickly, nor am I sure that a reasonable person would be able to switch gears that quickly. A trained police officer, I can see that being a standard. A homeowner? Not so much. Exactly.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Aug 20, 2015 -> 06:08 PM) We dont want vigilante justice. And deference is given when there is imminent danger (which is a question of fact). But once that danger has passed, the deference is no longer there. Our society is built on police and the justice system handling crimes, not individual citizens. Whether that is good or bad, that is the system we have. And i'm saying it's ludicrous if anyone thinks that just because 2 guys who just pointed a gun at you in your own home run away, they're still not a threat minutes later. Literally everyone in this country should applaud this guy. It boggles my mind that people think he's a criminal for shooting would-be armed robbers. If he went and hunted these guys down 10 minutes later, an hour later, days later, sure, I agree with you. But if this all happened quickly, there's no way a reasonable person would be over that fear of imminent death.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 20, 2015 -> 05:21 PM) Seriously though how far is too far I think it's dependent on the severity of the threat, the time from the threat and distance. In this case, if it's all happening in quick succession, they could be a few houses away and I'd be fine with it especially if he's still on his property and relatively close to his house. I would prefer that he go in the house and call the cops and hide. I'd prefer he didn't run after and chase the bad guys. But I'm not going to put him in jail when he's still within that time/distance bubble of his life being threatened.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 20, 2015 -> 05:12 PM) How far would it be okay to chase? If you give two yards, you'll want a mile. Cute!

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 20, 2015 -> 05:08 PM) The guy was two houses away when he was killed. That doesn't sound like self defense to me. Two houses isn't that far. That's seconds of time after leaving the house.

QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Aug 20, 2015 -> 05:05 PM) The guy being charged is the young white guy with short hair, not that guy with dreads in those pics. Eh, you sure? They look the same to me. One is a yearbook photo, the other is the updated photograph.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 20, 2015 -> 05:01 PM) If you're going to chase someone into your yard and shoot them in the head while they're fleeing, going to jail (or hitting an innocent bystander) is a risk you have to take. I agree about the risk of hitting an innocent bystander, but not the jail part. I don't get how you can so easily dismiss everything that came before the shooting. I'd agree with your position if the facts end up being that he waited 5-10 minutes before running out of the house, or if he had given chase down the road and then shot. But that doesn't appear to be what happened here. Even if he SHOULDN'T have chased and shot, why doesn't he deserve some deference given that he just had a gun pointed at him and he was in serious, appreciably danger of his life? What purpose does it serve to send this guy to jail? Justice for the s***head criminal?