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QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Jul 28, 2014 -> 11:15 AM) No offense, but maybe your friends just don't know much about history. My guess is they ask a bunch of comedians which particular historical story they know, get them completely loaded, and simply let them talk about it. Could be true, although my one buddy has a graduates degree in history (what a waste). It could also be the head guy simply asking the story teller questions to clarify certain parts of the story, and that's what makes the show. I'm sure editing is a huge part of it.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 10:16 PM) Drunk History is an incredible show I'd love to see the process for how they tape/edit that show. I read an interview where the guy said it takes 6 hours or so to film, so it's not like he just shows up and the people are drunk and he just starts filming. It has to be scripted because there's no way a drunk person is going to remember what they're supposed to say or the story they're supposed to tell, but at the same time no one ever seems like they're reading from a prompter either. Maybe they memorize the lines before hand and then just try to stumble their way through it. We've tried to do a drunk history a couple times with friends and it just doesn't work. The person loses focus too quickly or you can't really tell what the heck they're talking about.

Went out on Sunday and finally got back to my old self and shot an 81. Doubled a couple of holes hitting some atrocious sand shots (basically out of cement on a muni-course, so I don't feel too bad). The round took 4.5 hours though. So tough to maintain consistency waiting 10 minutes on every tee box. But, at the same time, my round was all of 20 bucks with a cart.

Bunch of sexist pigs!

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 05:29 PM) Except he's not getting f***ed by somebody, he's being asked to kiss somebody. It's his right to not do it, but given how small of a request it is and the iffy reasoning for feeling weird about it, it's going to be difficult to sign him up to a series in the future. Maybe movies where he can know the ins and outs of his role and not jump ship as his character develops and he starts to feel weird What's the difference? They're both "acting." And there are limits to what people are comfortable doing. And it's BS that this guy is going to get black balled in his career for some perceived anti-gay/homophobic stance based on him not wanting to play a gay character or not feeling comfortable kissing a dude. I think it's entirely reasonable to be pro-gay but also not want to play a gay character. That, to me, can be "normal." You can't divorce yourself from things you're uncomfortable with just by saying "ah well it's acting," especially when you're talking about a physical act (even if it's totally a-sexual). I think criticism is deserved here if he knew what he was getting into but then decided to make some political stance. But reading through the lines it seemed to me that he knew he was going to play a bisexual character, but didn't know the character would ultimately be shacking up with another guy.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 28, 2014 -> 10:45 AM) So this will sound odd, but, I was really impressed with Milwaukee. It's really like a mini-Chicago. Stayed in a fairly new boutique hotel called the Iron Horse, which was fantastic. Ate at a bunch of very good restaurants, particularly recommend The Noble. Museums were fun, and the whole 3rd ward area has a lot going on. I had no idea there was such a strong young urban scene there, but there is. We didn't get to do a lot, ran out of time, but I highly recommend it for a quick weekend trip. You can even take the Amtrak right there, faster than you could drive it, and the town is surprisingly walkable. Did you guys take your kids with you?

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 03:35 PM) Like I said, there is not really any point in belaboring the economics issue. Taxes are part of any govt economy. Even a sin tax is because it is taking into account the cost to the govt. Sick humans cost more. Sick humans arent as productive. Thus if you cause humans to be sick, you pay more taxes. But again, no real point, you just simply do not believe it. It is like arguing for or against religion, either you believe or you do not. How will it help the country? The same way that my great grandfather did, be a part of the American economy, add to the pie. That is how economics works. You just simply dont believe it. Its like arguing with someone that the Earth is the center of the Universe. If their "faith" tells them that, there is no point in arguing. And Im not sure how my idea wouldnt be "fair". The people in line would get to come here too. They wouldnt be skipping anyone. It would just be fixing a broken program that forces people to wait in line. Its like if Im waiting for the train and it breaks so I have to wait another 45 minutes. When they fix the train they dont force other people who arrived later to "wait another X minutes because its not fair I had to wait for a broken train". That is just idiocy. It would have been like after the slaves were freed telling them that "Its not fair that some of you were only slaves for 10 years, so you dont get freedom today". When you fix a problem, sometimes it may be unfair to those who were subject to the problem. But it doesnt mean you dont fix it. As for the people that are here. It will help them, so I dont see how it is "unfair". Its only "unfair" if somehow these immigrants are getting a benefit that the current americans dont, which isnt the case. But its your opinion, just like the people who thought that women shouldnt vote or there shouldnt be interracial marriage. As an American you are entitled to it, no matter how unfounded it may be. You know you come off as a real condescending prick with these back-handed statements right? Just argue the damn issue. Why do you have to add crap like this, as if you and your opinions are so much better than everyone else?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 03:34 PM) If you don't want to be accused of dehumanizing children then don't call them animals. Really simple. When you have no money, no friends/family, you don't speak the language, you have no home or place to go, it's analogous to "the wild." Jesus Christ.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 03:19 PM) And of course when we release them they head out into the forests to find bushes to sleep under and hunt squirrels for food. Because it's the wild. And they're not people, they're animals.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 03:03 PM) At least no one will ever accuse him of dehumanizing them. But it's the truth! We hold them, release them and then tell them to come back before a judge within 48 hours. It's not like they have money or speak the language. That's what part of that 3.5 billion dollar request was about - places to hold them and more judges and whatnot to process them.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 02:26 PM) Tax has nothing to do with free market ideals. Adam Smith (the guy who invented it) said: "The subjects of every state ought to contribute towards the support of the government, as nearly as possible, in proportion to their respective abilities; that is, in proportion to the revenue which they respectively enjoy under the protection of the state." When taxes are used as punishment or as a way to steer the market, for example with sin-taxes, they absolutely inhibit free market ideals. It's not about paying your share to the government, it's about limiting your market exposure with government intervention. So for the next 10 years and however many billions of dollars, the tens of thousands of kids coming into the country are going to help the country how? You're speaking and dreaming in idealistic terms, not reality. The reality is we're letting tens of thousands of people in who are just skipping in front of others who have been waiting in line, and then they're released into the wild. It's not fair to LEGAL immigrants, and it's not fair to the suffering people who are already here.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 02:17 PM) Maybe not instantly, but eventually they would. There is no point in belaboring (pun intended) this issue, if you dont accept free market capitalism principles there is really no point in arguing why capitalism works. Such a thing does not exist. If we can regulate and tax and blah blah we can limit who comes into the country too. I don't really think it's fear mongering. I'm not fearing some great mexican/latin american take over. To pull an SB comment: I guess I just care about poor Americans more than poor non-Americans. *Shrugs*

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 01:56 PM) It is an imaginary line. People in my family have died for this country, one was at Normandy, he was a first generation Italian immigrant who died fighting against the Axis. His father and grandmother immigrated to the US from Italy, they had nothing. Every one of their sons served in WWII. Making sure that people like his father get an opportunity, honors the sacrifice he made. It doesnt devalue it, it honors it. Destroying that legacy is what devalues this country. They sacrificed, so that we could enjoy freedom. The least we can do is sacrifice a little of wealth, so that people in similar conditions could get the same opportunity. American history is filled with stories of immigrants/non-americans, sacrificing for these ideals. The idea that everyone deserves a chance to live in a country like this. If we forget that, then they died in vain. No one is saying take away the opportunity. What people are saying is stop flooding the gates. And particularly, Mr. President, stop allowing it to happen. As to the bolded, they die equally in vein if we don't recognize the country and its borders anymore.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 12:18 PM) The United States's GDP is currently about $16 trillion. That statement is not an argument that we don't have the funds, it's an argument that you have other things that are more important. And also, very few 7 year old refugees need jobs. According to SB they'll make the economy better for everyone.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 12:19 PM) If a guy auditioned for a role and then refused to do the things required of that role after being offered the role...that would be a good reason to have a career black mark, because why are you auditioning for a role if you won't do the role? That would make sense, although it doesn't sound like he was aware what he had to do. I'm sure a porn actress realizes she's about to do porn but she could reasonably quit if she doesn't feel comfortable doing something that she wasn't told about when she agreed to do it. We wouldn't say she's "not normal" and that she's going to have difficulty finding work in the future because she didn't want to do a DP scene. It'd be one thing if she would find difficulty doing that particular type of porn in the future, but not porn altogether.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 11:15 AM) We've never been more equipped to deal with this than we are now. It's just a matter of convincing people to take our abundant resources to save these people With what money? With what jobs?

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 10:50 AM) More immigrants is likely to help those people the most, as historically an increase in immigration usually leads to the lower class being elevated. That being said, it goes back to the why should people suffer just because of an imaginary line? Many immigrants would give up a lot to have the same opportunity/chance that people in the "s***ty" areas of America have. Because the irony is, those areas arent so "s***ty" when compared to other places in the world. The US has a warped world view and a sense of entitlement. Great part of being American is that you can have those opinions, even if they are hypocritical with the whole point of this nation. Its odd that someone like me who believes in nothing, has more compassion than many of those who claim to be Christians. Its as if they didnt even read the book. Oh GMAFB. And it's not an imaginary line. People in this country have fought and died and worked and sweat for what this country has become, for better or for worse. Yes, we won the life lottery and were born here in the US as opposed to some s***ty third world country, but it's not as if that guarantees you anything. It's not like it devalues the hard work your family went through to get to this point. I'm not suggesting a closed border, but I don't see the need for a completely open, no questions asked, border either. This isn't 1900 anymore.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 11:17 AM) Feeling uncomfortable and not refusing to do it are two different things. I had to kiss a girl who I found profoundly...icky...for a school play. I felt highly uncomfortable. I did it, though I just want to know if it's "wrong" to be uncomfortable playing a gay character and not wanting to kiss another guy. It seems like the people quoted in the article DID think that was wrong and not "normal," and there's clearly going to be a mark on his resume because of it. To me, that's pretty f***ed up that an actor is uncomfortable doing something and his career is now worse off because of it.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 11:25 AM) I'm more curious how jenks thinks he can get from what I've said about Dungy to that question he's asking me. I just want to know where you draw the line.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 10:36 AM) You are entitled to your opinion. There are plenty of economists who would agree with me. So the "chance" that it may hurt our economy, does not outweigh the reality that these people are escaping. They made the same argument as you when they made immigration quotas to keep the undesirables out. Its important to remember that almost all of us were at one point the "undesirable" that others tried to keep out. Thankfully, there were other people who understood that this country isnt worth a damn if we become what we all tried to escape. Its interesting that its many of the people who believe in religion that are the most anti-immigration. But each of us has to make our own decisions about what is right. We have our own internal problems to deal with that trump the problems these people are going through. Maybe once we figure THAT out we can turn our attention to other people in the world. If you're a resident of Detroit or the s***ty areas of Chicago, Baltimore, DC, etc., how do you feel about your savior Obama asking for 3.7 billion to deal with this "crisis?" Wouldn't it be nice for that money to be diverted to, you know, Americans?

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 10:06 AM) My cousin's father was on the ship before that was the last one allowed to enter the US. It is part of the reason why I do not believe we have the right to restrict people's access to a better chance at life. No one deserves to suffer/die because they were unfortunately born on the wrong side of an arbitrary line. /shrugs If not for the compassion of others, I would not exist, same probably goes for many in this country. It is just easy to forget where you came from when you live on the right side of the arbitrary line. While noble, when that sort of policy hurts the country, it's not good policy. And, as has been pointed out to you before, you can't compare the immigration policies of the past with modern times.

Ok good, let's be done with it.

Wow, look at all of these actors/actresses that were on that MTV show Undressed: http://morningafter.gawker.com/checking-in...4/+laceydonohue

So SS, are you a bigot, terrible person, coward, etc. if you feel uncomfortable kissing another man? http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/26104240/true...play-a-gay-part