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QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 7, 2014 -> 10:07 AM) I love this thread. We've learned: -Yes this is the only lawsuit of it's kind but it is DEFINITELY indicative of an entire generation of laziness that no soxtalker can relate to because they all bootstrapped themselves up and worked a food job in their life. -No, we definitely need to keep things in perspective about occupy's contributions to Sandy relief. Though they may have helped a little, it was nowhere near the work done by larger organizations like red cross. Well, to be clear, there are at least two lawsuits that were brought up - the news story, and someone's personal story. I'm guessing there are more, but regardless of court filings, my argument was there is a general trend in this country for the younger generation not to be just narcissistic assholes, but to actually feel as though they are entitled, by right, to X, Y and Z. It's a general trend argument, not "each and every kid is like this." I think the fact that Occupy got swallowed up with those types of groups is also an example of this "trend." And I think most soxtalkers would probably admit that they hoped or even expected their parents to help with college or to get a car or to get a loan or whatever. But we also backed it up with getting part time jobs to at least pretend like we were helping defray those costs. I saw those Occupy kids outside the board of trade with signs all day every day. Go get a damn job. Go pour coffee for a while. Go drive a truck. There are still jobs available, they're just s***ty jobs. And a lot of us had s***ty jobs at some point in our lives. I too was a cashier at a grocery store, a dishwasher at my school's cafeteria, etc. That's not lifting yourself by the bootstraps, that's just getting a damn job to pay for crap you want to do without demanding mom and day give it to you. Reddy's nonsense about Sandy derailed the thread. I still don't know wtf that had to do with anything I was talking about.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 7, 2014 -> 09:34 AM) the Occupy movement is the left wing Tea Party. And both started, IMO, with admirable goals/concerns and were quickly swallowed up by other, larger groups.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Mar 7, 2014 -> 09:07 AM) He'd be more than happy too. You dumb Fox News watching Neocon! OPEN YOUR EYES. They've fooled you! Bush caused Sandy with his global warming policies! RACHEL MADDOW FOR QUEEN PRINCESS OF THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

QUOTE (Reddy @ Mar 6, 2014 -> 10:36 PM) Wow. f*** you guys. f*** you guys hard. I LIVE HERE, you don't. I WAS THERE the days after the storm - YOU WEREN'T. You all have no f***ing clue what you're f***ing talking about. The red cross was doing PHOTO OPS while there were people huddled around generators with NO FOOD and NO WATER and no SHELTER. But FEMA and the red cross were taking pictures of their "workers" in front of their trucks! Honestly I don't even feel like explaining myself to you midwest f***ers who have no idea what this place was like. The MAJORITY of the emergency relief in the weeks following the storm was provided and orchestrated by Occupy. I was f***ing THERE. Just blame Bush.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Mar 6, 2014 -> 12:21 PM) I'm sorry. What. This is exactly what the mainstream media WANTED you middle americans to think about Occupy with the way they chose to cover it. Please. Please. You're legitimately clueless and horribly off base on this. You realize Occupy still exists yes? And they did MOST of the recovery effort after Sandy yes? And that they've been fighting to keep people in their homes now for years yes? I can keep going. HOW DARE THE PROTESTERS USE THE INTERNET!!!! They must be entitled brats. Much, much different than the protesters against Vietnam. Totes different. Mmm, k?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 6, 2014 -> 11:52 AM) Just remember this...I looked it up a while back, only 20% of fast food counter workers are under the age of 25, everyone else is someone older needing a job. The world of "still there for the taking" jobs doesn't exist right now. Is that lack of available jobs or disinterest from the kids we're talking about? As I worked my bulls*** law clerk job paying $13/hour for 2 years (before and after getting my license) other friends of mine decided it wasn't worth it and remained unemployed by choice until a "real" job came along. Edit: Also, I have a hard time believing that a McDonald's manager wouldn't hire a college educated 22 year old over a 45 year old, uneducated mother of 3. The college educated kid needs to adjust his salary requirements.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 6, 2014 -> 11:32 AM) No, because college was actually affordable ~30 years ago to most people if they qualified thanks to significant government support of universities that has evaporated over that time period. Affordable or night, I guarantee you all of our parents would never have dreamed of DEMANDING that their parents support them and pay for their college.

This is cool: http://elitedaily.com/news/technology/this...der-90-minutes/

I'm not saying kids haven't been spoiled s***s before, but I don't think kids in past generations would have started a lawsuit over it. They might have felt like their parents owed it to them to pay for their college, but they never would have asserted that as a legal right. And yes, Occupy was an example of that problem. Kids protesting about not having jobs or money as they tweet and blog through various hi-tech gadgets. They had a legitimate beef to start (lots of debt, no jobs) but quickly just became a "I want more. I don't have enough. Look at that rich guy over there. Not fair." movement.

For the Big Ten teams, it seems to come down to hitting shots (brilliant analysis right?). By that I mean no one really has any dominant post presence, so it's all about jump shooting. There's really not a good transition team either. MSU is the best bet there, but they're not very healthy.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 6, 2014 -> 10:26 AM) I know, I can't believe this is happening thousands of times per year. No, but it's indicative of the general trend, just like the Occupy stuff. Do you think anyone from 30 years ago would have demanded their parents pay for their college tuition? Or continue to support them after the age of 18?

And we don't have an entitlement problem in this country...

QUOTE (Boogua @ Mar 5, 2014 -> 09:12 AM) So put Nunn and Hill in 4 to 5 weeks earlier and it's a tournament team this year, but it isn't a tournament team next year with everyone back except Ekey (the bust) and Bertrand (who I think is even worse than Ekey). Weird. Also, everything indicates that both Cosby and starks are very good shooters. Especially Cosby who did it in the big East. This was a down year in the Big Ten. MSU was hurt all season. Indiana sucked. OSU sucked. They had a shot this year if they had won 3-4 more games. They could be a tournament team next year. I'm just saying I don't think they'll be better without question. They still have some major issues to overcome. And hoping that transfers pan out didn't really work this year, so it might not next year.

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Mar 5, 2014 -> 09:08 AM) He waited a bit too late, but the NW and Purdue games were the 4th and 5th games in the BT, when the team had a great non-conference and had 2 losses. No one said Nunn and Hill should start at that point. That wasn't really any sort of mistake. Those losses aren't on a lack of a different starting lineup. Anyway, he's working with a pretty limited roster. Rice also was way different once he got hurt. Cost us the NW game by himself, and I'm not sure he was ever fully healthy in BT play. I think we're fine next year. They didn't have a great non-conference. They had one good win against Missouri that turned out to be OK. They lost to an awful Georgia Tech team despite having a late lead, and they lost to Oregon despite having a late lead. And there were other games, including the beginning of that conference losing stretch, where the freshman brought them back into the game and then Groce went to the seniors to close it out and they lost. I think it was Purdue at home when the upper classman played the last 8 minutes exclusively. I just don't see how the expectations should be much different next year. They still don't have a quality PG. They still don't have much shooting. You can say Starks can be the 3-pt specialist but that was supposed to be Ekey this year and it didn't work out. I still think it's a team that's limited offensively.

QUOTE (gatnom @ Mar 5, 2014 -> 08:27 AM) I think we kind of already have a pretty good read on Groce. A good if not great recruiter who needs more success to truly pull in 5 star talent from the likes of Chicago. He preaches defensive intensity and a pretty unimaginative offense (which is seemingly designed for inefficiency), but as of this point has recruited enough talent to win with his schemes as long as he can find somebody to tie it all together at the PG position. What remains to be seen for me is if his teams continue to underachieve during the regular season but overachieve come tournament time. The biggest mistake this season was continuing to keep Nunn and Hill on the bench. Make that change 4-5 weeks earlier and this is a tournament team or at least a bubble team. They don't lose those games against NW, Purdue, OSU, etc. Glad he finally realized his mistake and made the change though. I was concerned he would be a stubborn "these are my guys" type coach like Weber was. My main concern going forward is how well he can coach basic basketball skills. It's a little unfair to him and the coaching staff because he did inherit a lot of the veterans on the team, but i've never seen a team miss more open layups/bunnies near the basket. I've never see a dumber team (bad shot selection, terrible passing, unforced turnovers, etc.). These are things that are pretty basic to basketball and don't require a ton of stars next to your name. And that's why they've lost. You can overcome being a bad offensive team (OSU is awful but still wins bad games). They've beaten themselves too many times, and that happened last year as well. It's also a little upsetting that no one except the freshman really made much of a leap this year. Abrams is the same player as last year. Bertrand regressed. Egwu maybe improved more on defense, stopped fouling as much, and found a jumpshot, but he still doesn't fit into the offense at all except to set picks. Ekey was a bust as a transfer unfortunately. And Rice. Well, on the one hand he carried the team for a while. And then he completely disappeared, which was the main reason they lost those early games. I don't have much faith in him to be all that great considering he still makes terrible decisions. Add him to the top of the list next to Bertrand as one of the dumber players on the team. I think the future looks bright with Nunn and Hill as some decent cornerstones. Black looks like a legit recruit. But with guys like Abrams and Rice still on the roster, they'll be limited. I hope next year Crosby/Starks can really shoot. If not, I can't see them being a tourney team.

I hope Crosby and Starks have good bball IQ. This team is so f***ing stupid

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 4, 2014 -> 03:39 PM) The trick there is the phrase "downstate and suburban". The largest tax dollar amounts tend to come from suburban areas that consider themselves part of "Chicagoland". OK? But that's still a completely skewed scale of spending despite having the largest school district in the state, about a fifth of all students.

Not really sure where to put this since we've had multiple capital punishment debates in various threads: http://gawker.com/a-letter-from-ray-jasper...3598/@tcraggs22 At first I thought, damn, that's a well written letter (considering the source anyway). I thought he had some decent points. And I actually did start to feel "empathy" for him since he was allegedly just a part of a group that committed a robbery where someone ended up dead and he was the only one to get the death penalty. And thennnnnnn, I read up on the guy and found out the real truth. The part where he planned the whole murder ahead of time. The part where he slit the guys throat, but didn't deliver the mortal wound...his fellow robbers stabbed the guy instead of letting him bleed out. The part where he himself had no empathy, sympathy or remorse for what he did, instead telling the jury that the other men in his group murdered the guy, not him. So yeah. f*** that guy. Have fun burning in hell buddy.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 4, 2014 -> 03:09 PM) What makes you think that? I'd say AHB is right on this one. If you look at tax revenue to the state from the Chicago metro versus everywhere else, then look at state spending per capita in each area, I'd think you would see the flow going out of Chicago, not into it. Though of course, state spending/taxation isn't the only cash flow factor at play. The very presence of populations in Chicago contributes to revenues for other parts of the state much more so than the other way around. Maybe i'm wrong. I just see large state projects/grants given to Chicago-centric things - mass transit, health services, public housing, etc. Yes, there are those things downstate, but not nearly as big and not nearly as expensive to build/maintain/fund. As an example, here's an article (partisan statements included) about education spending: http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/201...g-inequity.html

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Mar 4, 2014 -> 01:43 PM) Because when push comes to shove, down state will realize that northern Illinois subsidizes a lot of their infrastructure. I would bet that Chicagoland receives far more money from the rest of the state than the rest of the state receives money from Chicagoland.

It'll be interesting to see if Illinois' defense can maintain this pace. 4 opponents under 50 is pretty impressive, even if only one of them was a real quality opponent. Honestly now that Illinois has offered that slimmer of hope of having a a chance at an NCAA berth, they'll promptly f*** it up and lose by 15. But hey, at least i'm excited to watch a game in March. 2 months ago I didn't think that would be possible.

Union Station is such a piece of s***. This morning exiting on Adams Street a sprinkler system went off and broke, completely flooding the ceiling of the exit doors, causing a waterfall of old water (and/or s***ty river water) to come down at each exit. Everyone got soaked. And it smells awful. Add that to the 10 spots around the station that have leaks on a near constant basis. Who the hell maintains that building?

Good video recapping Noah's great game yesterday: http://deadspin.com/joakim-noahs-eviscerat...g-of-1535140723

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 28, 2014 -> 11:18 AM) Ragnar went for the three way, and ended where most men end up. Good to know it isn't different if you are the Earl. Lol, "I hear it is quite common in other villages." Nice sell job. I don't know much about Viking social practices, but aren't they giving women a little too much freedom and choice? Would his wife really been able to respond that way? Weren't Vikings all about life and death to the point that more babies (and sons in particular) = better for the Gods, regardless of personal relationships?

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Mar 3, 2014 -> 08:16 AM) Ellen was awesome. She was fine. I wouldn't say she killed it. A lot of gags went way too long and were awkward more than funny.