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One big difference between Robert and Crochet - $$$. Crochet was basically league minimum last season and this season. If all goes well, he’ll earn roughly $10M next season perhaps? Compare that to $15M, $20M, $20M. When interested teams like the Phillies and Reds are already near the top of their budgets, that extra $10-15M per year makes a difference in trade value. Additionally, Crochet had almost no track record prior to 2024 so in reality the arrow could only go up if he managed to stay healthy in the SP role. I don’t believe that to be the case with Robert. Much of the arguments to holding on to him revolve around the possibility he reverts back to his prior form so if he doesn’t his stock falls further. Different situation imo.

I never said ignore it. I already acknowledged he struggled at the plate in AAA as a 22 year old. So did Colson Montgomery. So I guess they both suck and have no future?? The thing about Acuna though is he plays good defense and is a demon on the bases. I’m not sure we can say the same for Colson.

Which makes it even crazier that he had a higher fWAR considering fWAR is a counting stat not a rate stat.

Right, which is why a guy like Acuna given his age and cheap team control is valuable in today’s game if he can put up a .650-.700 OPS while playing a very good CF/2b and stealing a bunch of bases.

Sosa can’t field and is a knuckle head in the field and on the bases. Plus, he’s two years older and already down one year of team control. So to answer your question - NO.

He was #12 on pipeline’s mid season update. I’d be willing to wager he’s top 10 when they update in a couple months. Where does he rank on the recent Baseball America update?

Back to the topic. I’d be shocked if Robert isn’t traded before opening day. Probably need a couple FA OFs like Santander and Teoscar to sign to really get Robert’s market moving.

Worthless asset? Where do you come up with this stuff? You may think Acuna and Baty are worthless but I clearly don’t. I thought that much was obvious from my previous replies but I guess not.

To be fair, Acuna performed well in MLB in September. In fact, he had a higher fWAR in MLB in 2024 than Luis Robert.

Why is that a counterpoint? Sosa’s biggest issue over his career hasn’t been his hitting. He’s hit at every level and is now adjusting to mlb too. Sosa carried a .964 OPS in MLB in September so he was clearly swinging a hot bat to end the season. Also, Sosa is two years older than Acuna.

Acuna doesn’t have to mash to be a valuable big leaguer. He plays good defense and is very fast so he’ll provide lots of value on defense and baserunning. If he’s a 90 wRC+ type hitter in MLB he’s likely a 3-4 WAR player like Andres Gimenez the past two seasons.

So you focus on Acuna’s minor league season in 2024 but ignore his 2023 minor league season as well as his 2024 performance in mlb at age 22 and then focus on Robert’s 2023 season but ignore his 2024 season as well as his injury history across his entire career? Got it.

Acuna is a top 10 prospect for the Mets and a 50 FV prospect imo. The only position player prospect on the Mets I’d take ahead of him is Jett. I think you’re underselling him and very likely overvaluing Robert as well.

Far from post hype imo

Sure. He’s 22 years old and struggled a bit hitting in AAA and then performed well in a limited time in MLB. Plays good defense, very good speed, versatile defender. He’s still a very solid prospect, not sure where you’re coming up with post hype.

How is Acuna “post hype”?

Then by Memorial Day, they have a lineup as follows. Not saying it’s good but it would be interesting to follow. 1. Tauchmann (L) - RF 2. Acuna (R) - CF 3. Benintendi (L) - LF 4. Vaughn (R) - 1b 5. Baty (L) - 3b 6. Teel (L) - C 7. Montgomery (L) - SS 8. Quero (S) - DH 9. Meidroth (R) - 2b That’s a lot of lefties!!

I think it’s a fair deal for both sides. I think Getz would like that he can right away plug Baty into 3b and Acuna into super utility guy picking up a lot of ABs between 2b, SS, and OF.

Baty + Acuna for Robert. Who says no?

I’d rather they trade him before we find out

Been saying for awhile this is the most likely outcome if they don’t trade him this winter.

Exactly. And to me, Soto was more likely to resign with the Yankees than Tucker is with the Cubs.

Wasn’t it a lock Soto would resign with the Yanks when they traded for him last winter?

I can imagine it

For 10 months, yes they do.