quickman

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jan 5, 2005 -> 01:08 AM) Jim, the thing I was thinking about was signing one of those guys that you mentioned and trading willie for a utility guy who can play 3rd and short as well as 2b, I know that wouldn't be the most popular decision around here but I wouldn't doubt if that were to happen. Fine with me, i hate Harris almost as much as red and white hates Perez.

QUOTE(raff @ Jan 5, 2005 -> 12:46 AM) nice point quickman, kelly is still around. i dont want to sign goochi to a 3 year deal, unless its all on incentives with a base of around 2 mil a year. i rather save that money and use it elsewhere, esp in the next two years. on the point oj AJ, i want him signed. period. give him just under 3 mil, that is not overpaying. as far as Timo Perez signing for 1 million, that was KW's only move this offseason deserving a F. What was he thinking. Escobar should get a chance, or let borchard go again. also, remember when frank gets back, everett will be backup DH and what else? i would like him to be the #4 OF, so the position Timo was signed to fill is already filled, by multiple options. thats all there is to that. no one will convince me otherwise . Raff, Ozzie targeted Timo last year, and wanted him. Ozzie wants Timo. That simple.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jan 5, 2005 -> 12:43 AM) The cards are probably going to go with Yadier Molina at catcher. The dodgers just spent some serious money to get Odalis back, with the acquisitions of navarro also they might not got after aj atleast I hope not. It really could come down to the sox and TB, however TB resigned Toby Hall, honestly it seems as if the sox have a great shot at acquiring aj but I'm not getting my hopes up, I still got a bad feeling that another team is going to jump in there and scoop him up, hopefully I'm wrong. its amazing that teams are fighting over Beltran and offering 100 million and we are speculating on a 2 or 3 million dollar catcher, but as funny as this sounds, i would feel good if we got AJ and think we will have a good chance of winning the division. The mets even with beltran, will have to struggle. Funny.

QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Jan 5, 2005 -> 12:38 AM) Well, I have yet to read what other teams have shown interest or, more importantly, offered contracts. For all we know, we might be in an AJP race against ourself. I haven't read the names of ANY one team in specific that has shown interest besides the Sox. I'm really thinking we have the best shot at AJP. Hopefully Kenny can get it done this week. As for the middle infield, I'm expecting Alex Cora. Cora would be a great fit to platoon beside s***-head and the you know Kenny is going to give him a long, hard look because of the brother-discount. Cora in Black and Silver is a great possibility, in my opinion, better than Iguchi. You could be right, and if so i think that will be just fine and we will compete if we pick up those two.

QUOTE(SoxAce @ Jan 5, 2005 -> 12:28 AM) I know what your saying but you will get one and Kelly Dransfedt. Dodgers, Tampa, Whitesox, and who did the cardinals pick up?

QUOTE(JimH @ Jan 5, 2005 -> 12:19 AM) So there, nyah nyah nuh nyah nyah, I'll get you at recess. I'm going to crack open a Pabst Blue Ribbon after that one! Hey When I was sking They had a 32 ounce pabst in a can for 3 bucks at the end of the sking run. Awesome

QUOTE(redandwhite @ Jan 4, 2005 -> 11:58 PM) We'll see. There is no excuse for not signing Pierzynski currently, if you can find one i'll listen. here is what I can find. You have an issue with Perez. Good for you. Some people like him some don't.The next thing I can find, is that, in no way has any whitesox authority said we cannot sign AJ because we paid Timo or because we are out of money. The third thing is, we seem to be the only team that has offered him a contract. Has anyone else even stepped up to make an offer? The fourth thing is San fran dropped his ass, if he was so great, he would have stayed with them for 3 million. the next thing is, although i am speculating, I do not think the sox will let someone they want go for 500k. Maybe a million, maybe an extra year but not 500k. If his caliber was so great, he would have been scooped up by now. That said, I want him, but not at an inflated price. Let the Sox do there job. I am sure something will happen soon.

QUOTE(JimH @ Jan 4, 2005 -> 11:39 PM) What does this have to do with anything I posted? The damn new board format is a bit different. i wasn't responding to you. Who knows who I am responding to anymore. Hit one button, then hit another. net net, this whole timo discussion should be another damn thread. Timo has nothing to do with Signing AJ. its unrealistic to draw the inference.

QUOTE(JimH @ Jan 4, 2005 -> 11:39 PM) What does this have to do with anything I posted? Wasn't responding to you

QUOTE(SoxFan562004 @ Jan 4, 2005 -> 10:38 PM) There's a thread in Sports Bar i see thanks, Never go there.

A source said Mariotti received a written edict last month ordering him to ease up on the Bulls and Sox. Station executives followed that up with oral reminders. Both sides finally had enough. "We agreed that if I wouldn't agree to their editorial conditions, then I should leave," Mariotti said Tuesday. "I'm not going to compromise my integrity to do favors on the air for the White Sox and the Bulls. When they ask me to treat two teams differently than the others, that's a red flag for me, and it has been happening quite a bit over the last few months." With the station's Sox deal expiring after the 2005 season and its Bulls deal ending after the 2005-06 campaign, negotiations had reached a critical point. The station apparently felt it had to appease Reinsdorf

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Jan 4, 2005 -> 09:10 PM) To cover the Timo topic... I do think Timo is overpaid at $1 mill...had he been non-tendered, he would have gotten a minor league contract from some team and may not have made their MLB roster. However, him being overpaid by $500,000 is not going to kill our chances getting AJP. The Sox, as of right now, still probably have about $6-7 mill they can spend in FA....however, they will want some of it to be available so they can fill a need at the trade deadline if necessary. If they need say a very good reliever or a very good starter, and one becomes available, they will have the resources financially to get that player. Also on the topic of Timo...he is terrible. I would imagine that we'd be pretty damn lucky to trade him and get anything that could be worthwhile. He doesn't hit well, he isn't fast, he doesn't field well, his arm is good but he is sometimes slow to release the ball(and Jamie Burke knows that all too well)...and that clutch argument is garbage. I don't care if a guy can hit late in the game...if he can hit late in the game, why in the hell can't he hit early in the game? Regarding the offers to AJP and Taguchi...I hope we get them. I do think there is a decent chance we get AJP, but I personally doubt we get Taguchi...he was reportedly looking for Kaz money, and the Sox weren't(or shouldn't be) offering him that...they shouldn't offer him half of that. I'm pretty sure Kaz got somewhere around $7 mill a year...the most the Sox should go with Taguchi is $3 mill. If we offer him $3 mill, and that's the best offer he receives, he will likely head back to Japan. I truly agree, furthermore I really don't think the Sox will be so hard lined that they would let a player they want go for 500k. that is not reasonable. I do believe they think they have a figure in mind of what he is worth. Sounds like typical negotiation to me. It probably comes down to both money and years. This has nothing at all to do with Timo. Ozzie likes Timo, he is a solid backup, thats all he is or ever will be, but Ozzie likes him. he hustles, he is pretty decent on D, a lefthanded bat, and does and plays like Ozzie wants to play. That is why he is here.

QUOTE(JimH @ Jan 4, 2005 -> 07:45 PM) The thing with Dustin Mohr though was playing time. His agent only shopped him where he'd get lots of playing time, the White Sox couldn't offer him that. Mohr is trying to rebuild (build?) his value for bigger paydays down the line. Given the current OF situation, Mohr would not have come here. I like Escobar's versatility as well. I don't know what they'll do with him, but it really comes down to Escobar himself. If he has a great spring, the Sox will probably find a way to keep him and bump somebody else out. As it stands now I'd rather have the depth Perez brings because no one really knows what Escobar brings to the table. The utility infielders are coming off the board, per the rumors thread. Pokey Reese and Ramon Martinez both gone. I fully expect the White Sox to settle the whole infield situation very soon, if not this week then for sure by Sox Fest. Actually I don't need Hawk to tell me who I like or not like. i can watch for myself.

QUOTE(JimH @ Jan 3, 2005 -> 07:21 PM) Yet another reason why it's so important to bring someone in who can capably play both 2B and SS. Uribe is a great talent. But by several accounts, there are still some self discipline and maturity issues. Remember Uribe is the guy Guillen said existed on a junk food diet. Maybe Hydroxy cut and a atkins Diet?

QUOTE(JimH @ Jan 3, 2005 -> 07:18 PM) I wonder how many games Uribe and Harris played in 2004 as the SS-2B combo, and why it's assumed they have such great chemistry. Further, if the chemistry was so great and everything is fantastic, why is KW looking to add somebody at 2B? Something doesn't add up. its because he knows the limitations of Willie Harris.

either way you have to sign an infielder for depth. Pick one. I personally don't like Harris because of his inconsistancy. I also think, he is not very smart, but maybe better coaching can help that. I just do not have alot of confidence in his ability at the plate. Bring in somebody that can push him and play several positions.

QUOTE (JimH @ Jan 1, 2005 -> 08:01 PM) Things will heat up and probably get done this week, one way or the other. Baseball is pretty much shut down until Monday 1/3. Interesting that KW thought he'd have his team set for spring training by next weekend. Makes sense since SoxFest is right around the corner, and they might want to introduce all the new additions that weekend. My best guess is an infielder for sure ... the Pierzynski thing, who knows. If the Dodgers wanted him, their interest may be lessened if they get Dionar Navarro from AZ after the RJ trade happens. The Pierzynski situation was in the Tribune's front page sports and the Tribune rarely puts anything White Sox on the front page unless there's a really good chance of it happening. I'm still not counting on both things happening, but do believe they will sign at least one guy for sure. If it's both Pierzynski and Iguchi, we have a pretty successful offseason. Bring in a few non roster invitees for depth and you're done until July. ya think?

reasonable and quite logical conclusion. Therefore based on your analysis we should offer one of these guys the starting spot.If we don't then we won't get either one of them. As you know, I think Harris blows and we will never win with him. Therefore, its my opinion if we want one of these guys we need to offer them the starting spot. if we don't we will not get either of them.

Is Soxycardinal another one of Beastly's friends?

Jim, I truly believe if the right guy comes along they will expand payroll by a million or two. For instance If they really think eckstein is worth 2.5 instead of 2.0 they will get him. Anyway, we do need another catcher. I figure they will go really cheap. Brook Fordyce. not saying I like him but he could be had for 500k.

this is old news, a week old. who cares anymore, why would I give a s*** aboutt his guy when we just signed our number 5?

Sorry everyone, ithought I wrote this in an email.

Ross, I will have some games next year to sell off. Check with your Dad, if he wants specific games for your family tell me the dates. I don't have the number In mind simply because I have more people asking me for my seats this year, which is a good thing. off course I will also have tickets through out the year that I will get rid of. In addition, the whitesox offer season ticket holders extra upper deck seats for the Cubs series. I secured those as well.

Ball girls, bring back ball girls. Not thaat this will bring in more fans, but I would certianly enjoy them.

yes this is true, but not the topic. The topic was the cubs playing there. Stay on the topic. Maybe if they win and spend money the people would come out too.