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QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Dec 7, 2005 -> 01:05 PM) EDIT: My point is you fight a war with everything you've got or not at all. OMG, Nuke and I agree. I think that is twice this year. I assume we would be following all international conventions and US laws in fighting. But you keep calling Vietnam a war. I also think we should vigorously debate before, during, and after the war to assure we are not sending people to die to cover up a sexual dalliance or to bolster sagging approval ratings.

Here's the biggest difference between Vietnam and Iraq II. This time George Bush is involved.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Dec 7, 2005 -> 11:45 AM) We could have won Vietnam in 6 months if LBJ wasn't a moron. His mismanagement of the war cost us a ton of lives and allowed the North to win. Nuke, it was a conflict. We never declared war on Vietnam. So Nuke's opinion on Iraq doesn't count.

Imagine all the people, sniffing airplane glueooooooo Kevhead version. I can't remember the rest of the lyrics. I remember laughing the first time I heard it.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Dec 7, 2005 -> 12:39 PM) Touche. At least I make more than twice what those guys are making though. At 100x what they are paying those guys, I wouldn't want to be in some of the places we send US Military. I know it isn't the paycheck that keeps most of the guys reenlisting.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Dec 7, 2005 -> 11:07 AM) Why would a smart, motivated young man/woman want to chase bad guys around for a crap salary when there's far better and safer ways to make a living? Nuke, I've often thought the same thing about you . . .

QUOTE(Kid Gleason @ Dec 7, 2005 -> 12:19 PM) ...then what happened??? I swear, I hate it when people start to tell a story and then never finish it. Then they sunk the Titanic while Celine Dion sangduh

QUOTE(YASNY @ Dec 7, 2005 -> 09:54 AM) Well he certainly didn't have a clue about Nam, and he lived through that era. BTW, 58,000 is a closer number. And close to 2,000,000 Vietnam civillians. So I guess I'm better able to speak about Iraq than Dean or anyone else that doesn't know the death toll in that "conflict". But what does that have to do with Iraq war?

QUOTE(YASNY @ Dec 7, 2005 -> 08:36 AM) I wasn't talking about Bush or Kerry. I was talking about Dean. Stay on the subject matter at hand. So if Dean doesn't know how many US servicemen were killed in Vietnam, he doesn't have a clue about Iraq. This only applies to Dean. I get it.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Dec 7, 2005 -> 09:25 AM) Wow the NOPD strikes again. I have seen articles about the problems and corruption that exsisted there even before Katrina. Then the Hurricane hits and 1/3rd of the officers quit or simply abandon their posts, and then out of who was left there was this. How sad for the people of NO, what a tragedy. I forgot these guys were screwed up before the hurricane. Great point. This may be a blessing for the NO police department, unless it was the crooked, corrupt ones that stayed at their post.

http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/07/06/100215.php

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Dec 7, 2005 -> 08:02 AM) You beat me to it Jim, going a day early on me and all. I had it all planned out. The thread title was going to imagine, and the post was going to be blank... I figured the rest would be easy. Musically I like Imagine, the message? Meh. I like Kevin Mathew's version of the lyrics more.

I was just thinking the anniversary was coming up, I can't remember the exact day. It was all a bit numbing as I recall. I was in college, working late at a mall, when the news came on. Later, I remember picking up Double Fantasy and listening extra close and wishing I could skip over the Yoko content. Years later I came to appreciate her contribution to the album. Yes, it was on vinyl.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Dec 7, 2005 -> 07:55 AM) The REAL answer is neither of these two dimwits have a clue. They have clues, but their conclusions may not be right. Same with Bush, the various military leaders, and advisers. With all the suggestions, someone has proposed the best path, but it will be ignored if it came from the wrong side of the aisle or if it comes with a political price tag.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Dec 7, 2005 -> 07:42 AM) Oh, b**** b**** b****... was that a personal attack?

This depends on what we call victory. We haven't been able to stop crime in our country. Gangs terrorize neighborhoods, drive by shooting, innocent person tied to fence post and killed because he was gay, dragged behind a pick up because he was black, beaten because he dared teach an anti-religious view of our origins. So if we are trying to wipe all crime from Iraq, we can't. And much of this is criminal, we aren't fighting an army. We removed Hussein, that was a victory. But removing all the terrorist gangs? We can't. YASNY, you are right, if someone doesn't know about Viet Nam, how could they know about Iraq? Misquoting the death numbers is just plane stupid and sloppy. That's why I thought Kerry had a better handle on what to do in Iraq. He fought in Viet Nam, He had people shooting at him. Bush stayed stateside, occasionally flying a plane. Who had the better clue?

Reuters Link One of the things that makes this country so great is our willingness, even our eagerness, to take mistakes, open them up for the world to see, and fix the problems. No sweeping under the rug, no eraser to the history books. We learn from our mistakes, take pride in our successes.

That's what you get for living way up north . . . 60s and rainy here.

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You might want to consider the JW Church as well, I hear there are some really hot chicks there and you never have to buy them gifts

QUOTE(Steff @ Dec 6, 2005 -> 12:31 PM) That's my MO as well. oooh Steff speaking Latin . . .

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Dec 6, 2005 -> 12:20 PM) I dont give political parties any money anymore. All that accomplishes is getting them to call you constantly nagging you for more. I was friends with the GOP County head here and gave to a couple of the candidates that I knew and respected. That list was given up the line to the State and National levels so I still get some calls, emails, and letters. I enjoy staying in the loop on the latest spin and talking points. It's almost as good as listening to Rush, only less commercials. The problem the GOP has in this area is they have almost 0 chance of winning. So you have sacrificial lambs running. Hard to get a serious candidate, with good qualifications, to tilt windmills. Nuke, you can launder that Hillary check through me, so your buddies don't know you're backing a Dem

QUOTE(Steff @ Dec 6, 2005 -> 12:25 PM) As a seller I always leave feedback first... I bought something and didn't get it yet (just ended Sunday night and I paid immediately) and the seller is hounding me to leave feedback.. I would never leave feedback until their end of the transaction was completed.

I always leave feedback when the other party has completed their end of the transaction. I find that large sellers rarely leave feedback and when they do, it is canned. I do not place much faith in the feedback system. Too much threat of retaliation in the feedback. I have two negatives, both from the same seller, at the same time because I posted negative on him.

Here's one for the lucky GOPer in your family. http://www.rightwingconspiracy.org/cgi-bin...cgi?refer=repub Another favorite of mine is http://beltmaster.com/