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QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Jan 14, 2005 -> 11:36 AM) I have no issues with abortion in cases of rape and incest ( a morning after pill can deal with that easily ) or in order to save the life of the mother. My issue is with people who use abortion as a last-ditch effort at contraception. That's wrong in my view. I think that is the view of most Americans, and I basically agree with that. The part that gets troubling is why does the fetus of a rape victim have less rights than the fetus of a lust victim? If we turn it to the mother's rights, then the last ditch contraception situation would then be ok, because it is for the mother.

QUOTE(mreye @ Jan 14, 2005 -> 10:59 AM) Or smoke? Or drink? The courts have already decided that smoking and drinking are ok :banghead illegal drugs are not. This is a tough ethics quagmire, that I cannot sort out. It is easier to take a black and white approach, and perhaps that is why we have so much division on abortion. Any sort of in-between approach seems hypocritical at some level.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Jan 14, 2005 -> 11:16 AM) If you want to hear a prominent black tell it like it is then listen to Bill Cosby. You're all familiar with his recent speeches, i'm sure, in which he encourages black people to stop blaming "whitey" for all their problems and get their own house in order. That's the message they need to be listening to rather than to blame their troubles on some fictitious racial conspirasy. One thought: Would any white person in America want to change places with a Hispanic, Black, Asian, or Middle Easterner? Who has the better career chances? Who can walk through a shopping mall without the clerks getting suspicious? Who can move through a scanner at the airport easier? Who can walk into a Lexus Dealer easier? Who can run for office easier? Who can drive down a street without causing attention? All in all, we are still a white dominated society. We have come a long ways, but to believe there isn't much more to go, is wrong. I don't believe in financial restitution for Civil War era crimes, or some of that b.s. I believe many of the approaches we are trying are wrong.

These policies never go from A--------> Z immediately. They went from A

QUOTE(DonkeyKongerko @ Jan 14, 2005 -> 10:49 AM) Some of those things I don't think the wrong answers even link to anything. How can those companies afford to give away all that free stuff? I keep clicking on your avatar hoping for some free stuff, but never anything

QUOTE(DonkeyKongerko @ Jan 13, 2005 -> 09:20 PM) There have been times when I found a great picture and thought to myself how great an avatar it would make. Every time, I realize I could never dump Alizee. Having one around is perfect, two is too many. Don't ever change. I think a height and width limit would be a great idea. I also think we need some sort of general agreement of what is and isn't allowed. Recognizing that many of our members are posting from work, or on a family computer, or in a public access point, makes me believe something around PG_13 would be best. I know they can be turned off, but wouldn't it be better if they could be left on without embarrassment?

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Jan 14, 2005 -> 09:28 AM) These things make me laugh I never guess right :banghead .

Why is it that when the bakery split English muffins (and what makes them English?) that one side is cut so thin it automatically burns in the toaster and the other side is too thick to fit in the toaster?

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jan 14, 2005 -> 07:10 AM) I'd be interested in more "reception quality" type of information. YAS, you are in Kentucky, it takes 3 or 4 years for the signal to reach back that far

I think it is in Maggs best interest to delay signing as long as possible to give the knee time to heal. I suspect we'll be reading small leaks about Maggs alowing teams to look over medical records, Maggs running for this team, whispers here and there until Late April or May. I just don't see him wanting to sign for a couple more months.

Just what we need, more members :rolly

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jan 14, 2005 -> 09:10 AM) Lupica has a way of looking at things and getting right to crux of the matter. I've always respected that guy, even if I didn't always agree with him. Great writer. I love his work.

Link here

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jan 14, 2005 -> 07:01 AM) Today's column on the steroid thing. I heard a report last night that mentioned that most players, including entire teams, were pushing for full testing. I got to thinking about the White Sox, that no Sox players were suspected (Frank ) and that they may have acted with the support of the White Sox ownership who wanted to bust the guy across the city. :sosasucks

QUOTE(Jeckle2000 @ Jan 13, 2005 -> 09:43 PM) They need to change the law and make an example out of her. Either way she is going to rot in hell. One of the cornerstones of our justice system is we do not make laws retroactive. Interesting that you have to be a Doctor to kill a fetus. You have to go to medical school and take an oath to do no harm, then you can kill a fetus. If you are unskilled, it's a crime. I guess it's a crime to do it poorly and ineffectvly. If instead she decided to sky-dive, ride in the rodeo, etc. would that be a crime?

QUOTE(knightni @ Jan 14, 2005 -> 12:30 AM) That is a quote of the month... Then post it in the quotes of the month thread

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Jan 13, 2005 -> 08:41 PM) I have? I'm not the only one.......did you read the post I quoted when I made that one? Evidently not. No you aren't the only one, and it isn't just the GOP or just the DEMs. The politicians have created an Us vs. Them competition in our society for their benefit, not ours. The media, in reporting and commentating have helped to perpetuate it. The parties have seemingly dealt the issues out like cards in a poker game and are now playing their hand. No room for overlap, no room for compromise. No matter what happens, if it is good, grab the credit, if it is bad, blame the other party. Distortions and all out lies are accepted if they come from "our" side. Truth is rejected if it comes from the "other" side. Boutique news is becoming the fashion of the day. If the news casters doesn't cheer lead for "your" party, find one that does. Find someone who is on your side and keep drinking the koolaide. Why is Fox growing so fast? It's news for "us" not "them". Conservatives are saying it must be balanced, because I agree with everything they say, and I'm balanced. Moderates are saying the LA Times is balanced, because I agree with everything they say, and I'm balanced. In the end, we are heading towards a non violent civil war. America will not fall from external forces, America will fall from internal forces.

I have a stupid quote going through my head all morning. I think it's from MASH "I little song, a little dance, a little seltzer down your pants." I hope this passes it on and I can stop thinking about it

QUOTE(winodj @ Jan 13, 2005 -> 08:33 PM) Not true, I've pulled many a nosehair without a single tear. Yeah, but they were someone elses

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Jan 13, 2005 -> 07:39 PM) The ban on gay marriage was voted on by 11 states and passed by all. Evidently the people want it and not the state. How do progressives propose to reward hard work? By taking away from those who earn and re-distributing their wealth to those who don't? Spare me. Socialist robbery is all that is. What do Conservatives have to show for their time in office? The demise of the Soviet Union, the fall of the Berlin Wall, the freeing of millions of people in Eastern Europe, the liberation of Afghanistan from the Taliban regime, the removal of Saddam Hussein from power. Recodify discrimination? If by that you mean an end to racial quotas ( reverse discrimination ) then you can add that to their list of accomplishments. Explain how we've left our borders unprotected when we've spent billions to hire border patrol officers, deployed the most sophisticated technology available to help catch illegal immigrants and increased funding to improve the monitoring of our harbors by an exponential amount, Also please explain to me why this is such a concern to you now when before 9-11 cracking down on illegal immigration was government sponsored racisim? That's one thing I can't quite compute. BTW, "Progressives" have Vietnam and Korea on their record and I seem to recall us losing about 100 times as many men in those 2 wars as in Iraq and Afghanistan. Nuke, This post is the prime example of our nation's biggest problem. You have neatly categorized stuff as Us or Them. We are all the US. The Dems don't go and hibernate during a GOP term nor do the GOP during a Dem. I find it disgusting that you cannot embrace all Americans, just the ones who back the GOP. And by the way, some pretty disgusting individuals call themselves conservatives. We have accomplished all these things as a nation. Democratic led initiatives have led to cleaner water, cleaner air, and safer working conditions. But that didn't happen with just Dems working on it. It happened with a great deal of compromise and cooperation. You ave pointed out how Kerry supported the initial invasion, would you like to give him credit for the fall of Afghanistan?

QUOTE(KipWellsFan @ Jan 13, 2005 -> 07:34 PM) *Hijacking thread* This was one of the dirtiest moves by Karl Rove in the 2004 election, making sure almost all states had this gay marriage proposal on the ballot during the election. Because most Americans I believe are against gay marriage, which I guess is their right. But when they see this proposal last second it reminds them that they want a right winger in power who would never let such an evil thing as gay marriage happen. Meh just my observation. I wouldn't classify it as a dirty move. I would call it a brilliant stategy.

http://www.detnews.com/2005/metro/0501/05/A01-50709.htm More at link. I am speechless, this is so sad.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jan 13, 2005 -> 07:12 PM) It's a date! Did I tell you I can't bowl without holding hands? giggle giggle