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Fez Festival The festival is on a world tour. Of course things like this never make it to my tiny corner of the world, far away from a major city. I think a grass roots movement, with many events bringing together humankind for arts, music, sports, and love will bring peace faster that all the debate and hatefull speech combined. Maybe it's my 60s upbringing, but I believe all humans are capable of love and understanding and want to live in peace.

So every Palestinian is an enemy of Israel? If you believe some are not, does that make you an anti-semite? If so, do you believe that every Palestinian needs to be killed before Israel can have peace? Can you seperate a Palestinian "Cause" from everyday Palestinians? Is there an American Cause that every American agrees on? If someone believes some Palestinians are good and sympathize with their plight, according to you, they are a racist against Israel. If they agree with you, and claim since the Palestinian cause is the destruction of Israel and therefore they all are bad, doesn't that make them racist against Palestinians? Is there a way to not be a racist in your world? Orare you claiming it is ok to be a racist against Palestinians? And just for fun Israel, find me one time I agreed with Apu. You seem to link us together. You accuse me of not being able to read. Or would you like to ignore that fact.

Israel, you are in essence saying some Palastinians are bad, so all Palestinians are bad. Hitler was evil personafied. Are you suggesting that all Germans are evil also? Since Hitler targeted Jews, can Israel live in peace with Germans? And why the hell would you even bring Hitler into this? Can there be peace with Palestinians? Based on your view, any leader from Israel who negotiates with the Palestinians in good faith must be an anti-semite. To negotiate in good faith you must believe the negotiations could reach a binding agreement that will be held by both sides. That would also mean the Israel leader would believe the Palistinians was capable of doing the right thing. Take a look at the this link Fez Festival of World Sacred Music I believe these types of events, that bring people together, and far more productive and will bring peace to the Middle East, faster that extreemist like yourself who preach hate for the other side. Show me where * I * ever disagreed with your summary of the Peace Accords? If your entire reason for calling me a racist is I believe there can be peace with Palastinians and not all Palastinians are evil, that is sad. You have accused me of a vile crime against an entire religion. And your entire reasons are I believe all humans are good and capable of good things. Is that an opinion that would be shared by all Jews or just yourself? "You people are all unbelievable" Are you linking everyone together? Can't you read who writes each post? Please do not link me with anyother writer. My ideas a seperate from everyone else here. You and APU are crazy. You two cannot give an inch and have jumped to extreems to prove your points. You two are amazing to watch. It is so nice that you two are so similar. I really cannot tell the difference sometimes, except APU uses more pictures. This is why under the present regimes, there will be no peace. You two are a real good representation of both sides. How could you two agree to live in peace? And just so I am clear, the reason I am a racist in your view is I believe that not all Palastinians are evil. You have not posted one quote from me that I've said any racist comments towards Israel or it's people. And you wonder why I think you are an idiot :headshake

Israel, Did you happen to find my racist remarks? Of course not, because I never made any. A decent human being would retract your vile accusation. But then again, I wouldn't expect someone who advocates murder, to do the decent thing. I feel that calling me a racist was about the greatest insult you could have leveled against me. All I'm asking is for you to cite the specific posts here that led you to say such a thing. Perhaps in your circles it is ok to make false statements against someone. Perhaps based on your racist views of Palestinians, you do not feel calling someone a racist is such that big a deal. Well I do. I agree the current leadership in the Middle East has made a lasting peace impossible. Hopefully with a reshuffling of the deck, there may be a bater chance. But with both sides being taught how bad the other side is, it may be becoming harder and harder for that to happen. Do you think all Palastinians are against peace with Israel, or just thier leaders? You earleir said that not all Palastinians are bad. ARe you claiming that ALL? Majority? of Palastinians want to destroy Israel? Are you claiming if someone is sypathetic to Palestine they want Israel destroyed? Why does it have to be one or the other? If it is one or the other, how do you intend to accomplish this? Name calling? I don't believe anyone on this board is named Adolph. Read your own posts. racist asshat. As soon as someone disagrees with you, you start screaming racist. Maybe since you are such an idiot you think calling someone a racist is just name calling. To me it is a serious allegation. And for about the hundredth time, point to my post. Point to where I disagreed with your Israel position. I disagree with your anti-Palestinian people positions.

I never waded into the Mel Thread and feel terrible I missed his post. Peace to you Brando. The history your grandmother saw in her long life is amazing. I hope that someone in your family chronicled her life. To have someone you love that long is truly a great blessing. Sorrow shall pass, Love is forever.

Steve, A true fan has to push management to put a winner on the field. Accept mediocrity and that is what you will be served. We needed to replace Colon at the min and since we are on the E-Lo thread, make up for a drop off. My hunch is Mark and E-Lo will combine for the same number of wins as last year. Being a fan is coming back each year no matter what. Not blindly cheering whatever crap the team does.

Show me where I disagreed with you on Israel? Besides my statement that no HUMAN can be perfect and with the constant threats, suicide bombers, and everything else happening to Israel it is even more impossible for them to be perfect. But go ahead. Please post where I criticized Israel. Show me where I disputed one of your Pro-Israel idea. Do I disagree with your position on assasinations? - Yes I disagree and so does our Constitution. Do I disagree with your position that the elimination of all Palastinians is a necessary condition for Israel's peace? Yes I disagree. Do I disagree with your position that it is ok for Israel to spy on us because we are spying on them? Yes I disagree. Do I disagree with your position that suicide bombers are the lowest form of life and should be stopped? Yes I do. Do I disagree with your position that Israel is a sovereign nation and the US should defend her? I agree, we should defend Israel. Israel has been the most loyal of any Middle Eastern Country. Too bad she has no oil. I disagree with your position that there can be no peace in Israel unless the Palistinians are destroyed. I disagree with your opinion that all Palistinians are not trustworthy. You are so racist against Palastinians you refuse to believe that someone else could see good in both. But please, go back and show me my racist statements. Show me my terrible anti-Israel statements. And again. Just because I think you are an idiot, doesn't mean I dislike all Jews. Just as you disliking me doesn't mean you hate all Chicagoans or White Sox fans. And by-the-way I heard an interesting talk at a Boy Scout 10 Commandment walk by the local Rabbi. He felt that just being born into a faith is meaningless unless you practice it. And I am tryng to rememebr what pro-Israel statements you have made. It seems you usually make anti-Palistinian statements then label anyone who disagrees a racist. You see it as one or the other. Perfect recipe for extreemist behavior.

Your view of a debate is everyone agree that Israel is perfect or they are racist. I believe Israel is 80% right in their actions, you said 99.5%. I'm supposedly a racist, you are not. What is the percentage that gets me labeled? I've condemed suicide bombers, you've advocated the assasination of Arafat. And you talk about debate. A debate has to have two sides. There are not two sides with you. I do not agree with most that APU posts on the subject. I think his retoric is as one sided as yours. I will not condem an entire group of people over the actions of a few. And by the way, Israel is a nation, not a religion. But since you seem to link them, how can you rationalize your 100% devotion to Israel. You're willingness to defend the slightest criticism, yet you do not practice your faith? Is there some guilt complex working here? Have a pleasant evening. And would you please post my quotes that you feel are racist? I've been through three threads and cannot see where you get the idea. I think the persona you have created on-line is as an idiot. Not because you are supposedly Jewish, but because your posts are assanine.

It is ok for allies to spy on us? Amazing. Name calling. Why is it anyone that disagrees with you is racist? Most of my opinions are shared by my Jewish friends. In fact, I have had several friends read previous threads and they shake their heads in amazement that you could be so blindly ignorant of human behavior. It is their insight, from actually being there and seeing the problems, that I rely on. For some reason I find their opinions a hell of a lot more informed than yours. They are close enough to the situation on a daily basis and know the problems. They do not have blind faith in Israel's leadership. They know, again from first hand knowledge, the dangers of believing one side is without fault. The fact that I can see both sides of the debate means I am anti-Israel is just silly. Is everything in your life that way? If I search the Pale Hose forum will I read you not agreeing with everything the WS have done? Does that mean you are anti-Sox? You have disagreed with Bush; does that make you anti American? I think Israel is in one of the worst situations I can think of. Not of their making. I do not believe military might will bring a lasting peace. I have not "blasted" Israel. I sympathize with Israel, I do not sympathize with the concept of destroying Palestine in the process. I do not sympathize with killing innocent people. I do not believe sympathizing with innocent people over their fate, at the hands of leaders who cannot compromise because of fear or ignorance or whatever, means I am anti-Palestine or anti-Israel. I detest the murder bombers and suicide bombers that radical Palestinians have used. I also detest Timothy McVeigh’s bombing in Oklahoma City. If I sympathize with his family, does that make me un American?

I should have qualified my statement. I should have said aware, or conciously involved. I wasn't disagreeing with you. I was just pointing out this was murder of the child, not suicide. I think it is a mistake to call him a suicide bomber.

Good idea. And they could wind up with a tasty meal when it is all over. Lobster= clarified butter = Yum Yum

I do not see this kid as involved, I see him as a victim being exploited by the lowest form of humanity. A 10 year old cannot make an informed decision like that.

:fyou the slime that attempted to do that to a little kid.

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Culd he be worst lefty-lefty than he was righty-lefty

For some reason I never believed that Nichols was involved as the feds claimed. I've always suspected there are others who have gone undetected. I also have a hard time believing a death row inmate from Oklahoma

Thank you. You are correct. That is why I am the humble mod and you are the Admin with not one, not two, but three trophies

Back to the spy thing. Is it ok for China to spy on us, since we are presumably spying on them? No I can't offer proof, but then again you have no proof we are spying on Israel. Or is it only OK for Israel to spy on us? Where do your loyalties lie? The US or Israel? Should you be working for Homeland Security if you believe it is correct for Israel, or any country to spy on us?

From Israel4Ever This is as near as I can tell, the only time he admitted Israel was doing something wrong, in this case, spying on the US. I am certain he would use the same justification if it was Russia or China. Maybe I'm mistaken, he may believe it is right for Israel to spy on the US.

Then you are blind. Israel has been targeted throughout their history and have been justified in most of their actions. But by me saying most, you will say I hate Israel. Being HUMAN they have made mistakes. The Palistinians have also made mistakes. Both sides are right, and both sides are wrong on some things. But by me saying that the Palis could be even 1% right, you brand me a racist. Most of my opinions have come at the feet of friends of mine who have LIVED there. While your busy checking bags at O'Hare, they are living there or having their kids live there. So don't be f***ing lecturing to me about being racist. You have condemed an entire race of people and you call me a racist. :puke The only route to permant peace is by acknowledging both sides as HUMAN. Both sides. Do not mislabel my contempt for your posts as contempt for Israel or all Jews. As I recall you haven't been to Temple in a long time. Isn't it ironic you are calling me racist when I've been to Temple more this year then you.

The only f***ing statement you make that really pissses me off is calling me a racist. You stupid f***. It is not being racist to see that people make mistakes. Please quote one of my so called racist statements? I would be the biggest hypocrit in the world if I was racist against Jews. Half my friends are Jewish.

And would that reason be that they could turn on us? Or is your government making a mistake? And I am impressed, I would have bet big money that you would have denied the spying allegation.