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Thank you for expanding on my thought. Love the sinner = not a problem to be gay Hate the sin = the sex may be a problem I believe that is what you are saying? In reality, a gay couple in most Churches, even those who's belief is "gay friendly", would have a difficult time being mainstreamed into the Church. Like elsewhere in society, there will be a large percentage that do not approve of the behavior. So the official teachings of that religion isn't much comfort to a gay couple who are left out of Church life.

I wish it were true. 2004 is going to be the longest f***ing nightmare in Chicago baseball history. Even with Houston's new starting pitchers, the Cubs are going to be tough to beat. I think they moved a couple steps forward while others are stepping back either through age or loss of players. This is the best looking Cubs team in my lifetime dating back to the 1960s. I am so glad I'm 1600 miles away. I really dislike happy Cub fans. I like the lovable losers.

We said that about Buddy Ryan by 1987 I was only able to follow them on paper, not too many chances on national TV. I thought injuries were more the problem. AMazing how quickly the Coach of the Year becomes the Scapegoat of the Moment. The KIng is Dead! Long live the King! New season. New problems

When was the last time you looked at the manufacturers label? Would you buy a Made in the USA product over a similar product made elsewhere? What if it cost more?

Good advice when dating, allowing a handyman into your home, picking a caregiver for your child, selecting a Doctor. . .

Episcopalian and Methodist are two who do not. Others have a "Love the sinner, hate the sin" attitude.

Too often the primary method is hoping. I am dismayed at the women who have had multiple abotions. My wife is in the medical field, as part of the screening she has to ask about all pregnancies. At least once a week someone comes in who has had three or more and every day she sees people who have had two. I've gradually slid towards Pro-Life over the past 20 years. It has been an accumulation of things, but not the propaganda that both sides produce to elicit emotion rather than a factual debate. I can think of no debate in the history of mankind that has seen more emotion centered debate than this.

Everyone write their congressmen that products are too cheap and we want price hikes via tariffs. I do not want to spend $400 for this software program, slap a tariff and jack it up to $500. Companies are free to set up shop in the US and compete. Write a better program. Deliver something the consumer wants. And if India slaps a tariff on our products who cares about the American worker who's company is trying to sell into that coountry?

Well we don't want foreigners here. It's a global economy and US companies are everywhere. How many countries do not have a McDonalds? Outsourcing has been a 25 year trend. We just do not notice it until it effects us. How many people will complain about this, then download some tunes, borrow a friends software program instead of paying MicroSoft $400? If you want to protect US jobs, start paying for your software.

I'll be sitting on my patio, in shorts, drinking a beer. I may start a fire in my outdoor fireplace if the weather is cool (below 65) I stopped caring about in person public appearances too long ago.

Routine signing that would go unnoticed before the internet. Wake me up if they do anything interesting. I'm going back to SL&P. I hope Crede can sleep after this signing

This is Brasil protecting their citizens from incoming terrorists from the US.

So reject a well documented program that has been successful for a secular one just starting. Why? We can't judge the effectiveness of programs and decide? I do not want to waste my tax dollars recreating stuff that is already established. THere are so many volunteer agencies that with a few dollars can move mountains. Instead you all will say they are faithed based and we should hire managers, and all these people. What a waste of money. Sign in the government. Atheists only?!

Who is most in need of marriage skills. The executive in Lake Forest or the struggling family in an inner city? Who is most likely to get that service or be able to afford it if it isn't available? If all it took to save a relationship is a BMW, some nice parks, good schools, and low crime no one on the north shore would ever get divorced.

Are these the same founding fathers that "forgot" to let women have the vote and valued slaves at less than a full person?

There are a lot of issues that need to be addressed. And I agree with all of those that you've pointed out. When times are tough in a marriage there are conflict management techniques that can help a couple work through it. If all the couple has seen are broken marriages what behavior do you expect? Not everyone is equiped to deal with a marriage in the high stress environment you've described. If fixing the environment is all that is necessary, than why does anyone in Kenilworth get divorced? One thing that should be addressed is using property taxes to fund schools. As a society we spend a lot of money on education but it isn't distributed in any sort of equitable manner. The poor schools remain poor and the rich schools have an abundance of resources. Better schools equal higher housing prices and more money to spend while poor schools equal lower demand for housing and the schools get worse. Highland Park, Texas required a Ph.D. for the H.S. Science teacher they hired in 2002. How many schools in the inner city could afford a PhD?

damn baggio we agree. Is this a first LMAO If ten people get together and start a program that has a positive impact on their community. They have a track record of achievement, fiscal responsibility, etc. Why shouldn't we support their program just because it is housed at a Church and instead create a new one that is secular? Almost everyone here seems to have religious views, either pro or con. Should only the cons be allowed to work in a government program? And finally why should a Church program be treated differently than other community groups? These are, after all, fellow Americans with the same rights and responsibilites as everyone else. Would people also object if a secular community group like NRA, or AARP, of United Way received funding for a program?

I like them. I was just pointing out if we are looking spam we should look at other things that get posted repeatedly.

And Nuke's been scouring the world looking for his next assignment

I would counter that the family is the building block of our society. Kids do not spend all their time in parks and in schools. The family is the single biggest influence. Also, we are already spending a lot of money on those types of programs. Should we decide that, for example, schools are the #1 priority and we are going to shut down every other program and just concentrate on education? If we ever get that right then we will spend money on parks? When we get that right we will move on to something else? We have the capacity to work on multiple problems from multiple directions at the same time. That's the beauty of our abundance. One threat to families is poverty and underemployement. Financial stress is identified by many divorcing couples as the #1 problem. Sad thing is moms with kids almost always have lower standards of living after the marriage breaks up.

The uniersity has a policy about sexualy explicite photos. It seems to go beyond nudity. Nuke I assume even the military has guidelines regarding materials you can view. We wouldn't want you viewing anything too violent

I had someone complain at a clients when I was reading on a lunch break and then again at my school when a young lady took exception to Kongs' dancer. What bothered me is she could have just asked me to sit somewhere else, go to a different site, etc. Instead she reported me. Even the librarian had a hard time deciding if it broke the rules.

You can not in Brasil. Brasil has too be carefull of pissing off tourism. Last I looked it was an important part of the economy. 8 hour delays in processing will have many tourists flocking to other locations. Brasil has the authority to protect their borders.

My guess is some/a lot of this will be faith based. I am not too certain I agree or disagree. I believe for some people a vow to God means a lot more than a yes to a Judge. There are many existing marriage encounter type programs that could use additional funding. That makes more sense to me than creating new programs. Most marriage counseling is expensive, not covered by private insurance, and thus out of reach for the majority of couples. Some faith based programs, while using less trained and credentialed counselors may be more cost effective. Stand by your man? I agree with your sentiment and fear. But in many cases saving a marriage is based on standing by your spouse. That goes both ways. I was faced with just such a scenario and voted to stand by my wife. Best decision I've made. Should the US government be in the business of saving marriages? I'm not sure and lean towards no. Should the US government look to ways to save money? Yes. Sometimes two ideals will collide.

I'm not bothered by what people write. As I said earlier, just like around the office, the short "I agree" or LMAO is what greases the boards. I sometimes get frustrated when I have to wade through long signatures. I dislike picking on my friend 2k4 but his sigs, if laid end to end, are almost 3/4 of a mile long 1231 yards to be exact. And remember the sig just keeps repeating over and over again. Since we all have seen the scene it's all scrolling. In fact on my 19" monitor I can not read his entire post because the sig takes up 1/2 the screen. Now I love most of the sigs. Ribbie's party bus and the changing captions are great. "JR were at the airport who the hell are we picking up?" or "Ozzie the partyvan is all washed and gassed up for you!" In many threads I look for Nuke_Cleveland and the sigs make it easier. But sometimes they get long.