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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 2, 2011 -> 03:47 PM) Again, you're 100% ignoring the point. Repeating the ways that the bad guys are bad does not change the fact that what happened in this case is not permitted by the law. If the bad guys are as bad as you say they are, and its been known for months, years now that this particular person was a target, then why has Congress not adjusted the law to deal with this scenario? Your argument that these guys are so bad because they don't follow the law is a great reason for Congress to act and fix the law. It is not an argument for why the law should be ignored. There is absolutely nothing stopping Congress from acting if you're right. The only logical conclusion that one can draw from Congress not acting is that Congress has higher priorities than dealing with people willing to commit acts of war against the U.S. Therefore, I must judge that Congress believes your points about how bad these guys are must be incorrect, because otherwise Congress would have acted. Because this isn't the first, nor will it be the last time, we have dealt with this kind of situation and used deadly force. Let me phrase it this way, during a war is it not appropriate to kill the enemy using drones, bombs, and assorted other weapons? The only difference I see is the enemy has no one national affiliation, there are no clear battle lines. You law does not apply.

Nah, go for it and see how it works out for you. College is all about experimenting and learning. You will learn a lot from that experience.

Great time to think of a new thread idea.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 2, 2011 -> 12:15 PM) Again...the answer to this problem is to make it so that they also have the highest tax bill. But Ozzie is a job creator, we tax him and he will not be hiring more employees!

You are talking about laws, our enemies, including the people targeted, are committing acts of war. There is breaking the law, and there is flying jets into buildings. It would be nice if we could arrest them, but that's not how wars are fought.

And they said it wouldn't last . . .

well done grasshopper

u come as you are

smells like teen spirit

Most everything I post

Bench coach = Asst. Manager for many teams.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Oct 2, 2011 -> 11:58 AM) Kinda hard for Pena to be a surprise candidate when Rosenthal already reported the Sox's interest in him and Fisk would be a disaster; the last thing this team needs is a grump old man with ZERO experience running the show. Then no one would ever receive a promotion. I'm not certain Fisk would be a disaster coming on the heels of Oz. I also think there are better candidates than Fisk.

Well I guess you sat out the last few elections.

QUOTE (God Loves The Infantry @ Oct 2, 2011 -> 11:14 AM) Of course, you already know my solution. Never vote for non-veterans.

You presented the idea that you either support 100% or not at all. I am just pointing out it is really easy to support some but not all. People make decisions on where to deploy our Troops and under what conditions. Sometimes those decisions are wrong. Supporting, for example, ridiculous rules like only return fire, do not initiate or do not follow combatants into Cambodia, because to question it somehow doesn't support the Troops, is silly. Just like you can support some of the military but not everyone, others can support the Troops while while being critical of how they are being used. I find it morally reprehensible to cause the deaths of American soldiers for certain gains. Just because Congress or the CiC decides something is a worthy cause is not reason enough I should support that cause. That is your job. To blindly follow their orders. My responsibility as a citizen is to question why soldiers are being used. That's one of the oversights we have as part of the Constitution. And I lol at you voting for a liberal candidate who is a vet over a non serving conservative candidate. It just ain't going to happen vato.

QUOTE (God Loves The Infantry @ Oct 2, 2011 -> 11:14 AM) I have a certain level of resentment for any CiC who never served. He holds this authority over our Armed Forces but never wore the uniform himself? How is he supposed to understand our lives and the challenges we face? Now, I'll follow the CiC's orders no matter what his background. And if you've read enough of my posts, you know I also resent people like Terrence Lakin, the field grade officer who refused to deploy until Obama provided his birth certificate. The man brought his politics into the workplace and his career was rightfully ended in disgrace. My personal distaste for how the CiC spent his youth is my problem alone. Of course, you already know my solution. Never vote for non-veterans. I, personally, will never support a man for the position of my boss if he hadn't once been in my shoes. I don't think that's unreasonable. You will vote for a republican regardless of their military service. So how can you support the military if you don't support the CiC? You're questioning others that they can support the personnel but not the cause, how can you support the cause without supporting the CiC?

Really, thirty year old dirt about a name that Perry wasn't even involved in? http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_...11-10-02-11-34-

Jim is my other name.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 2, 2011 -> 10:38 AM) If you're making $2 million a year and spending it all, you deserve what's next. He wants a $2 million boat. Enough said. And he has the opportunity to earn the money to acquire it. I'm not suggesting he is spending it all, but how much of it should he spend? $50,000? People live comfortably on that and he'd have enough to live on for 30 or 40 years.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 2, 2011 -> 09:22 AM) I'm trying to think of other fields where the employees (players) make many millions more than management. Not millions but it happens in sales all the time for the top producers. And IMHO, wise management allows for this and doesn't adjust the pay structure.

QUOTE (Whitewashed in '05 @ Oct 1, 2011 -> 06:28 PM) I am happy to post that I am now employed!! First post college job! Finally after a few months of searching! Amway? Whatcha doing?

It's also an ego thing. You think these guys don't know what everyone else makes? Athletes are competitive in most everything. Wanting the fastest car, the biggest house, the best parties . . .

yes, Ozzie could buy a nice $150,000 in Waukegan or Ford Heights and drive a 4 year old Chevy to to the ball games and never worry about money. Guys making minimum wage think if I was just making $25,000 a year, I'd be happy. Guy making $25,000 wishes he was making $50,000. It just keeps going up from there. Some people are happy just to be able to give their kids a 10 year old Toyota to drive, but wish they could give them something a little nicer. When you are making $2 mil its remarkably easy to spend it and want to have $3 million.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 1, 2011 -> 11:02 AM) Ok, so were going to get into hypotheticals here. Hypothetical: American citizen joins the mob. Travels to Sicily to plan a crime or murder of a us citizen. Is this a military strike target? If you know where the meeting is, do you blow it up based on the accusation? It's the same level of "imminent threat" talked about here. Or how about a US citizen that supported the Irish republican army in the 80's. Giving money to actively support terrorism against a us ally and verbally exhorting people to join in and support the revolution back home. Actively supporting and funding bombers against a us ally, based on this standard the president would be able to strip that person of citizenship and have them killed with no due process. Same level of decaying obedience to a violent foreign based group. That's where I am glad we have well trained humans making those decisions. While no solution here is perfect, the best system I see is allowing the people in our government the authority to follow through on their responsibility. Of course you can pile up hypotheticals from here to China but my answer will all be the same, at some point we have to trust the people making those decisions. And that is how it has been from the beginning of time. It is all people making decisions, including what was written in the Constitution.

QUOTE (God Loves The Infantry @ Oct 1, 2011 -> 03:38 PM) Give me a f***ing break. I'm supposed to equate some Peace Corps dork with the American Soldier? No. Not happening. This post has been edited by the Soxtalk staff to remove objectionable material. Soxtalk encourages a free discussion between its members, but does not allow personal attacks, threats, graphic sexual material, nudity, or any other materials judged offensive by the Administrators and Moderators. Thank you. I'm guessing you are unfamiliar with either the cause of the Peace Corp or the causes you are fighting for. There are many ways to secure our borders from enemies, one of which is to stop creating them. Perhaps you are embarrassed when some military dork is photographed feeding a little kid, handing them a doll, or handing out water bottles in a disaster zone.