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Always a nice day when I get to converse with soxtalk elites

And they volunteer as sport coaches, Scout leaders, help out at youth centers, etc. They take on jobs ranging from Doctor to school janitor.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 21, 2011 -> 10:53 AM) Hahahaha oh man, those are some awesome burns he gets on those kids. The one kid I know through sports gives way better burns than this one.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 21, 2011 -> 08:04 AM) Is that guy a real jerk deliberately? No, just the opposite, you have to know the kids involved. They are the always in ISS, always in the halls having chats with teachers. Smart enough to pass easily, but think they can do whatever and still move on. Which kind of makes me like the hold 'em back and maybe they will grow up about responsibility.

Well I'm waiting . . . Today's the day.

For teachers it is that time of year when we start looking at lists of kids and their grades and deciding who may get retained. My opinion is changing quite a bit about this since I began teaching. Before teaching I saw it in black and white, you set a standard and those that do not meet the standard are retained. It all seemed so simple. But then I learned that if a student is retained in middle school they are 75% more likely to drop out before earning a high school degree. Retained twice, and you can pretty much forget about them graduating. They don't get any smarter the following year. I give my students so many opportunities to earn grades with assignments that they have a lot of time to complete and with plenty of opportunities to get help. That balances the tests they take and most will have enough points to pass my class. A handful are sweating out the report from our state assessments. I am projecting one student who will probably not have enough points to pass my class. He is also failing a couple others, so he'll probably be back. From all my classes, about 7% are failing two or more of their other core classes (math, reading, science), the threshold for being retained. The seven were contacted Friday with a little sit down with our principal and it's amazing how they are now interested in their grades. He has a unique way of breaking the news . . . "Did you have fun in 8th grade?" "Yes sir! A lot of fun." "Good, because I looks like you will be back" "You know that next week is the uniform drive where you can donate your old uniform" "Yes, then we can wear whatever we want" "You will probably want to keep yours, you may be back next year" They leave that meeting and run to every teacher asking about their grades (which we have been telling them since December) and beg to turn in missing assignments and for extra work.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ May 20, 2011 -> 10:45 PM) Yeah, but it mostly occurs in males between 12-22, and seem to decline once a girlfriend is established. Only to resurface after the kids are born . . .

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 20, 2011 -> 07:02 AM) Why do you create these threads just to mock people? Would you care to point out where I mocked anyone? Look at the poll results, that is called objective evidence. The majority of posters here have outperformed both of these guys at their jobs. And it has been easily proven, both of those guys have done some really stupid things. So how did a major franchise wind up with these two? And here is a hint . . . The answer is JR. And the point is, maybe the team's problems should be more on his shoulders.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 20, 2011 -> 02:40 PM) Here's my thought on this. We hear so much about the player relations problems when the happen. They get made into some huge controversy when they happen, and spun into this idea that no one will ever want to play here. The reality is this is just an example of the organization going out of its way to recognize successful former-employees. I think it is a great idea. Great point which I had not considered. Moves me a little away from no bid deal and dumb to no big idea and maybe not dumb, but not genius either.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ May 20, 2011 -> 01:40 PM) Jon Garland and Juan Uribe aren't going to help draw many fans, I can pretty much guarantee that If it causes fans to forget 2006-today, it just might work . . . (see I peeked)

QUOTE (Maxwell @ May 20, 2011 -> 01:31 PM) I agree. WSI sucks. I left here and went there for about two years. I guess I just don't think that you guys should be "toeing the line" as Tex said. Shouldn't you be no where near the line, as an example? Oh well, no big deal. And we all agree with you. But we're also humans, passionate about sports and everything else we discuss here. We're also the people with some skin in the game. So we boil over as well, just hopefully when we boil over it's on the correct side of the line.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ May 20, 2011 -> 01:34 PM) You'll never please everybody (not a knock on either side of the argument), but if this brings in more people to the ballpark then Im all for it. Ding ding, ding we have a winner! As a promotion it isn't as good as Elvis, pets, or mullets, but better than magnetic calendars

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ May 20, 2011 -> 12:06 PM) How could anyone have a problem with this? It's two key parts of our World Series team who make their first trip back to the Cell since 05. I think it's great. You do realize they played a lot of games at the Cell in 2006, 2007, and 2008? This makes it sound like it is the first time the fans have a chance to see these guys since the WS.

Of course this is from an organization that retired an active player's jersey

It's no big deal and kind of nice, but think about this . . . Both guys played for the team in 2006 and 2007 plus Uribe played in 2008. So Garland probably had 30 appearances since the WS and Uribe over a hundred. They earned and received many nice ovations from the fans. It's not like they left after the WS and this is their first time ever at the Cell. We are recognizing their first appearance as an opponent. Kind of ironic we are cheering them while booing other players from that team off the roster Yeah, I'd cheer, I was always a fan of both of those guys, but an official team thing? I can take it or leave it. No big deal the organization is doing this, but it seems kind of funny.

The more I think about it, the more I am warming up to the idea. And they did play key roles on the team. I fully expected a very nice reception from the fans.

QUOTE (BigEdWalsh @ May 20, 2011 -> 09:08 AM) Nice gesture by the . What are they gonna do otherwise, ignore them? Treat them the same as every other player on an opposing team? It's been six years. Maybe you do something the following season if they were gone, but it's been too long. I like the gesture, but not sox years later.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ May 19, 2011 -> 04:35 PM) I built the forum at 17 and have broke it off and on over the years. I learned the truth at 17 . . .

QUOTE (Maxwell @ May 20, 2011 -> 01:04 AM) I wish I could ignore some of the mods and admin. I'd rather not read the exuded arrogance or observe them not following their own rules. Behind the scenes, mods and admins who do not follow the rules get blasted pretty hard by the others. One thing to consider, because we spend a lot of time discussing what is allowed and what is not allowed, we know where the line is and can do a very nice job of toeing the line. Speaking for myself, I have stepped over that line and was suspended for it. And please use the report a post feature when you believe anyone, including a mod, is ignoring the rules.

I use the ignore function but not because someone is a poor poster, it is usually good posters who we've happened to be on opposite sides of a couple threads and I'd rather allow things to die down. Currently I have Milkman on ignore, but "peek" at a few of his posts in some threads, just not in the 'buster. Now a feature I would really like is a force ignore where I could have some people ignore my posts.

I am wondering if those people who object to the slaughter of animals for protein would eat this? I assume those rejecting animal protein for health reasons would probably still abstain.

It's all fun and games until someone dies. I'm thinking of a last day of school project for my students . . .

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So how does a major franchise wind up with a manager and a GM who 2/3 or more of the amateurs can outperform them at their jobs?

Hey look, it's Garland and Uribe". OK, we recognized them. We were distracted for a couple seconds, now explain the under .500 team you got on the field.