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SS, I think your question deserves a fuller response, because in the short term it would be a hurdle. Long term, perhaps not as much. I do believe for any new system to work, there needs to be some gate to keep people from making weekly visits to the Doctor. Currently it is the insurance companies and economics that keep people away. Also the time away from work and other responsibilities. I would like to see some sort of gate left intact. Perhaps it is a co-pay per visit. I'd even accept a sliding scale on that co-pay. Short term, I agree it will be an issue. I also believe, with providers receiving payments, we will see a boom in small clinics. I'd also like to see more Nurse and PA care for common ailments built into the system. That is one area that is underutilized with a better cost. I think there will be a slow down in the building of new emergency rooms as patients are moved to more appropriate treatment venues. I see here some of the clinics that offer free or low cost treatment. They are at capacity based on revenue not on physical size or available volunteers and doctors. They could expand without much effort just by receiving adequate funding for their operations. I am interested in how you envision the short term and long term affects.

QUOTE (FlaSoxxJim @ Aug 20, 2009 -> 09:28 AM) Parents with two kids in college at once are screwed these days, and I'll be there in a few years. Quit trying to resist. Enjoy the letters from school.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 20, 2009 -> 08:41 AM) You mean like not adding 50 million people to the system all at once? You mean adding 50 million payments to the system versus 50 million services without full payment. We do not agree on the actual number of people who will now visit Doctors who have not visited before. The impact will be IMHO, less than what you are quoting. IMHO there will be an increase of people visiting Doctors and a decrease in ER and Urgent Care visits. There will also be an increase in routine care and a decrease in care for more serious, and more labor intensive care, from waiting and allowing small problems to become big problems. I have tremendous faith in America opening the clinics and expanding Doctors offices once payments will follow these treatments. The uninsured are an anchor to expanding health care.

Oh, those days seem like a second ago.

For most of my history as a Sox fan, this is as good as it gets. This team will be in the race all the way, and I honestly can not ask for more than that. By late August for at least half of the last 30 years, it was time to think about the September call ups and next year. Hell, for at least a third of those year, in your heart you knew in May the team was going nowhere.

my daughter arrives at U of I today, my son at Texas State tomorrow. Damn, their mother is old.

jim, you know that isn't true.

http://ohellnawlblog.com/newohnblog/2009/0...nna-pay-for-it/ As always I am scanning the news looking to bring all the best news stories to my friends at Soxtalk. Unlike some posters here, I wouldn't hide this gem on my facebook wall ahem cough lostfan cough

Holy Cow! What the hell does that mean?

really?

QUOTE (FlaSoxxJim @ Aug 19, 2009 -> 10:38 PM) Oh, maybe let Gage work on the site and kill it. phuck that idea! I was thinking if you double post you are out, and then it would die from a lack of participation.

QUOTE (jasonxctf @ Aug 19, 2009 -> 09:21 PM) maybe its a DuPage Co/Kane Co thing? Or maybe my doctors suck and everyone else knows something that i dont? Here it is a seasonal thing which truly cannot be avoided. With the Winter Texans there is a severe shortage for three or four months a year and a severe glut for eight or nine months.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 19, 2009 -> 04:37 PM) I am suggesting the system is on the verge of collapse as it is from lack of capacity. They won't be able to keep up with the crush of 50,000,000 people getting "free" care. There are two versions of free at work here, free to the patient and free to the provider. I would hope their would be some co-pay or some mechanism to prevent the "free to me" so I will see a Doctor every week. There is the positive situation of having those treatments actually being paid for directly instead of indirectly. Part of the capacity issue is people using the resources in an inefficient manner. The ER for example when they need a Doc visit. We should gain as we stop treating people for free at the most expensive option, ERs, and begin treating people in a lower cost and more appropriate facility. It is interesting that you say the health care system is on the verge of collapse. If you truly believe that, then I would think you should want to see changes to prevent that collapse. Having health care providers being compensated for their care seems like a great first step. The only other option I would see would be laws preventing patients from being seen, and that seems like a harsh situation we would not tolerate as a society.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Aug 19, 2009 -> 04:29 PM) Ha, funny, and also true. Mods smack alot of people's points and arguments around with zero consequence. Actually, and I speak from experience, we sometimes get suspended sooner than others. However, since we spend so much time debating whether a post is suspension worthy, we are probably better at toeing the line without stepping over. There have been at least three mod/admins suspended in the past six months or so.

For a time there I thought the Sox had two solid guys at 3rd. D'oh

too many double posts

The worldwide draft idea is interesting. I'd be in favor of a simpler system where you give up future draft picks if you sign a player to your MLB roster, or if they appear on the 40 man within one year. In effect, that would be your draft pick. I am also a little uncomfortable about a system that wedges itself in the private negotiations between an employer and an employee.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Aug 19, 2009 -> 03:57 PM) You've gotta be kidding me. That place is such a s*** hole. . What's not to like?

QUOTE (SHIPPS @ Aug 19, 2009 -> 02:53 PM) LOL. They work different shifts and I am telling them both I want to keep it quiet since it is a work thing. I like them both so I really cant choose right now. Reminds me of my favorite toast "here's to our wives and girlfriends, may they never meet!"

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QUOTE (jasonxctf @ Aug 19, 2009 -> 03:46 PM) there's plenty of capacity out there. I'd say that the last 5-6 times I've been to a doctor's office (regular checkups, mtgs with the wife, etc) the waiting room has been completely empty. All the old people are in Florida and Texas in our waiting rooms. I can see my Doc in a day or two if it is summer, but by November or December, he is booked for three months.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 19, 2009 -> 03:38 PM) There are plenty of people who refuse to go for treatment because they can't afford it. With no disincentive not to make trips, this will only expand. It is an economic truism that the cheaper something is, the more people use of it. No doubt. And perhaps some out of pocket cost component will help curb unnecessary visits. Still, keeping patients with chronic illness out of ERs will be a wonderful help to the system. And preventive medicine and timely treatment is actually cheaper for the system. Are you suggesting too much business will hurt the industry? I believe there may be an initial adjustment period, there will also be a realignment as treatment is pushed and pulled to the most effective avenue. No more "I've been coughing for two weeks" trips to the ER or people with pneumonia not being treated.

Thanks for the p by p

QUOTE (Reddy @ Aug 19, 2009 -> 03:23 PM) hey remember last week when y'all were ripping contreras? yeah. nuff said. He has a few more

can I get a pitch by pitch, come on someone wantsa to pad their post count? Balta?