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QUOTE (jasonxctf @ Aug 19, 2009 -> 09:21 PM) maybe its a DuPage Co/Kane Co thing? Or maybe my doctors suck and everyone else knows something that i dont? Here it is a seasonal thing which truly cannot be avoided. With the Winter Texans there is a severe shortage for three or four months a year and a severe glut for eight or nine months.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 19, 2009 -> 04:37 PM) I am suggesting the system is on the verge of collapse as it is from lack of capacity. They won't be able to keep up with the crush of 50,000,000 people getting "free" care. There are two versions of free at work here, free to the patient and free to the provider. I would hope their would be some co-pay or some mechanism to prevent the "free to me" so I will see a Doctor every week. There is the positive situation of having those treatments actually being paid for directly instead of indirectly. Part of the capacity issue is people using the resources in an inefficient manner. The ER for example when they need a Doc visit. We should gain as we stop treating people for free at the most expensive option, ERs, and begin treating people in a lower cost and more appropriate facility. It is interesting that you say the health care system is on the verge of collapse. If you truly believe that, then I would think you should want to see changes to prevent that collapse. Having health care providers being compensated for their care seems like a great first step. The only other option I would see would be laws preventing patients from being seen, and that seems like a harsh situation we would not tolerate as a society.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Aug 19, 2009 -> 04:29 PM) Ha, funny, and also true. Mods smack alot of people's points and arguments around with zero consequence. Actually, and I speak from experience, we sometimes get suspended sooner than others. However, since we spend so much time debating whether a post is suspension worthy, we are probably better at toeing the line without stepping over. There have been at least three mod/admins suspended in the past six months or so.

For a time there I thought the Sox had two solid guys at 3rd. D'oh

too many double posts

The worldwide draft idea is interesting. I'd be in favor of a simpler system where you give up future draft picks if you sign a player to your MLB roster, or if they appear on the 40 man within one year. In effect, that would be your draft pick. I am also a little uncomfortable about a system that wedges itself in the private negotiations between an employer and an employee.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Aug 19, 2009 -> 03:57 PM) You've gotta be kidding me. That place is such a s*** hole. . What's not to like?

QUOTE (SHIPPS @ Aug 19, 2009 -> 02:53 PM) LOL. They work different shifts and I am telling them both I want to keep it quiet since it is a work thing. I like them both so I really cant choose right now. Reminds me of my favorite toast "here's to our wives and girlfriends, may they never meet!"

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QUOTE (jasonxctf @ Aug 19, 2009 -> 03:46 PM) there's plenty of capacity out there. I'd say that the last 5-6 times I've been to a doctor's office (regular checkups, mtgs with the wife, etc) the waiting room has been completely empty. All the old people are in Florida and Texas in our waiting rooms. I can see my Doc in a day or two if it is summer, but by November or December, he is booked for three months.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 19, 2009 -> 03:38 PM) There are plenty of people who refuse to go for treatment because they can't afford it. With no disincentive not to make trips, this will only expand. It is an economic truism that the cheaper something is, the more people use of it. No doubt. And perhaps some out of pocket cost component will help curb unnecessary visits. Still, keeping patients with chronic illness out of ERs will be a wonderful help to the system. And preventive medicine and timely treatment is actually cheaper for the system. Are you suggesting too much business will hurt the industry? I believe there may be an initial adjustment period, there will also be a realignment as treatment is pushed and pulled to the most effective avenue. No more "I've been coughing for two weeks" trips to the ER or people with pneumonia not being treated.

Thanks for the p by p

QUOTE (Reddy @ Aug 19, 2009 -> 03:23 PM) hey remember last week when y'all were ripping contreras? yeah. nuff said. He has a few more

can I get a pitch by pitch, come on someone wantsa to pad their post count? Balta?

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Could someone post an update? Score Inning etc

you swallow a dictionary?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 19, 2009 -> 02:21 PM) So I still have not had it explained to me how we are adding 50,000,000 million people to the system, while having, at most, the same number of doctors, nurses, and facilities, without having longer delays, and less care. If you can explain it, I would love to hear it. Are you talking about those that visit emergency rooms for common ailments, and use services without paying? People are still using services. Shall we discuss what will happen with costs when the hospitals and doctors are reimbursed for that care? Discuss what it does for ER rooms when non emergency matters can be handled by a more appropriate doctor visit or "doc in a box"?

I like the move. Good luck Brett.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 19, 2009 -> 11:08 AM) I admit I'm a little concerned with the direction of the team. Jim, are you still participating? What says you?

Austin Chicago L.A. I am more a wilderness guy. When I day dream about places to visit, they rarely are cities. Actually, it is never a city.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Aug 19, 2009 -> 10:42 AM) They're not. Why is this ridiculous? They are guaranteed health care under the current house bill. There was an amendment proposed to take this provision out and it was shot down. There is some public health benefits to that. On the surface I am against illegals receiving any sort of benefits outside of law enforcement (for and against), I do not want someone with untreated disease preparing my food or breathing on me at the grocery store.

Good Golly it isn't even September and the Tigers are in sniffin' distance

I tried to merge this into the health care thread, put polls seem to be dropped. Discussions should stay there.