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QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ May 6, 2008 -> 09:24 AM) You still seem to have this idea that a baseball clubhouse is a common workplace, and what happens within your typical office should apply to MLB. Are you suggesting that a business can declare themselves exempt from laws? Laws are written that specifically exempt certain companies from specific laws, but it doesn't work in reverse. Companies cannot declare themselves above the law.

The points I have offered so far. Society has always censored, and always will. We draw lines and enforce them. And we draw new lines as appropriate. Different media needs different laws and different boundaries. We have and will continue to produce works that are over the line and society will ban them. While it is easy to say, make parents be parents, there are serious problems and practical concerns. The best of parents cannot be with their children 24/7. We cannot continue to make these items so readily available and then dump it on parent's laps. Surround the kid with taboo items and they will get access. Promote the forbidden on TV, radio, newspapers, web sites, magazines, and it builds demand in the kids. We have stacked up the odds so far against parents it is time to actually help parents in some way.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 6, 2008 -> 10:14 AM) Wow, should the title of the thread be, everyone here has had a bad few days, let the overreations be posted here. Its a locker room, get over it. How about all the dressing up other teams do to rookies, carrying a pink backpack, "daddy why did they make Ryan Theriot dress up like a catholic schoolgirl?" Give me a break. This is such a non-story its hilarious. It is a story because it is so far outside the boundaries of acceptable behavior in a workplace.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 6, 2008 -> 09:05 AM) What happens in the clubhouse should stay in the clubhouse other than quotes media members get from players. Anything else, if they report it, they should lose their access IMO. There is no need for this stuff to be all over the papers. Like the post above stated, they try to present a family atmosphere at the ballpark and kids do look up to these guys, but that doesn't mean that crazy stuff just shouldn't happen. It should be off the record. What business doesn't want all the free publicity they receive from the media??? The Sox will not be covered today because they blocked access to the media because they reported truthfully about what was going on in the clubhouse? Brilliant PR move.

The rules have been in place for decades. The players involved have not known any other rules or different levels of access since becoming pros. It wasn't like they turned around and all of a sudden reporters are there. They knew the rules and who would see it. This is a terrible lapse in judgement. If this is the example they want the world to see about the Chicago White Sox, that is very sad. We complain when we are always compared to Linge and drunken fans running onto the field, then people here defend the players? That is the image we will live with. Enjoy.

The sales department area, is now called a locker room and there will be porn, blow up dolls, nudity, and swearing. Anyone in accounting, marketing, shipping, etc that needs to enter this area to do their jobs is hereby warned. If there are any uptight pc b****es who can't take a dirty joke in good fun, they should look for other employment, Dammit, we have to increase third quarter earnings! This is a multi million dollar business.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ May 6, 2008 -> 09:44 AM) That to me is why I agree with you, this is total B.S. Not only do the Sox send their tickets DHL, but DHL claims to be the official shipping company of MLB. And they won't insure tickets?!?!?! The real issue is their clerks did not accurately inform the customer and they should stand behind their clerk's actions. Also, if they said negotiable items, I do not believe 99% of people would understand that meant sports tickets. I would have thought cash, stock certificates, blank money orders, gift certificates, etc.I understand having a policy against insuring those items, but that has to be conveyed, clearly, to people shipping.

BTW, I should add, in addition to my GPS, I have a map and compass and the ability to use them. Further, when using the GPS on unfamiliar roads, be careful. In the past couple years people have died by taking secondary roads that are not good routes in winter.

Let me toss out an alternate thought to be destroyed: The problem with open primaries is a hard core conservative, Pat Robertson can help select the Dem candidate by voting and Jesse Jackson can help the GOP. The primaries are costly, extend the campaign for a couple years. So we can vote twice? Why? Eliminate primaries and go back to conventions and allow the true members of the party to pick a candidate. Have the conventions in July. Campaign in August, September, and October, vote in November. Move on.

That needs to be expalined to them and the cornerstone of your case. They offered the additional insurance. The fact that the Sox used them does not mean that they insured those tickets. There is private insurance available or the Sox may have self insured. For example, UPS does not cover any item that is being shipped to be repaired. So if you have a printer with a broken paper feed, and they destroy the display, not covered. People in the business make the decision to "take their chances" or find alternative shipping.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ May 6, 2008 -> 08:20 AM) I don't find it offensive, but I do find it sad. These guys are more about acting like 15 year olds then being professionals playing a game they get paid millions to play. Great clubhouse leadership here. If an employee of a company pulled a prank that was offensive to a large portion of their customers, they would be reprimanded, not defended. This is a workplace, no amount of money, fame, or power removes them from workplace laws. The $10,000,000 earning CEO of a major corporation can't put up porn in his office and say f*** the b****es that can't take a joke. And neither should professional athletes. Why is it too much to ask grown men to act like adults?

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 6, 2008 -> 08:44 AM) Dude it's completely different than that and I don't know why that's hard to understand. There isn't a national media following Jimmy in his cube, this is a baseball team that makes a lot of money because of the exposure provided by the media. During designated times, reporters are allowed to conduct interviews, and not allowing women in would be limiting their hireability as reporters when everything should be fair and equal. It's not like these sexed up female reporters are roaming the locker room looking for piles of cock, they are coming in to do their job to better their careers and to go home to their families. They needn't be subjected to blow up dolls at their place of work. Take a blow up doll into your workplace and stick some pens in it and see how long you last before your canned. Thank you, well said and much better then I would have done.

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ May 6, 2008 -> 07:39 AM) Well are women allowed in your locker room at the heatlh club, no. I have a solution, kick the women out of the locker room if they are overly offended. This is a game the guys are playing. Lets not apply the same rules that Jimmy in his cube gets to the 15 million dollar a year guy who swings a bat at a ball. Whaaaat? You are kidding. This is American. Wealth does not buy you a separate set of laws, only access to better lawyers.

Wow, PC crap? yeah, if them broads, n-s, w-ps, sp-s, and j-ps, can't take a joke, f*** 'em. The all-male, anti-broad, blow up doll team!

QUOTE (tonyho7476 @ May 6, 2008 -> 07:36 AM) this country is too politically correct...why are women in a male locker room? That doesn't seem appropriate to me. They have been for the past 30 years. The men and female reporters have the exact same access. The showers and private areas are off limits to every reporter.

Unless you work in a strip club or adult book store, you would not be allowed to bring a sex doll to work and display it at your desk. I'm with Steve, grow the hell up and act like adult men of 35 not some drunk college guy.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 6, 2008 -> 08:27 AM) A bit of knowledge about those games, that is how they are won. Investing in real life is NOTHING like that. He'd be broke in a month. Taking risk is fine, but shoving all your chips in only ensures that you will lose all of your money sooner or later. Heck I can't really talk, because my most successful investment strategy to date has been to function as a market-maker in a very specific niche market. So far it has worked like crazy. Risk-wise it is a really stupid idea. Agreed, I even mentioned my concern to the teacher that this was feeding that win today, instant gratification, in our society. I thought having a local expert evaluate the portfolios later would have been a good idea, even if it was just a couple.

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ May 6, 2008 -> 08:20 AM) I believe those restrictions are already in place with the rating system. As long as retailers abide by the selling restrictions and parents actually act like parents this wouldnt be a problem. Underage kids shouldnt get their hands on a game like GTAIV, as they shouldnt get their hands on "backdoor sluts VII DVD" ( Southpark reference). It seems that parents today are trying more and more to be buddies than authority figures. But not all parents set the same standards. And it always trickles down. The 18 year old is allowed to play the game, his younger brother is also home, mom and dad are away, do you really think younger brother isn't going to play? Then what if younger brothers' friend comes over. How am I as a parent going to know what video games that family owns? I want a list of all the video games in that house? It is really easy to say, make the parents be parents. But as a society we keep stacking the deck against parents. Imagine a parent of a 17 year old. I want to call your girl friends parents and get a list of movies, video games, and books in their house. Oh, and what premium movie channels they subscribe to and to be certain they are locked out when you are there.

I use a Garmin eTrex Legend but a much different application. I use it for various outdoor sports like GeoCaching, backpacking, fishing, etc. I've been happy with Garmin in that arena. My parents, who do a lot of road trips, love their Garmin in car unit. I'm not certain what model it is. From what I have observed teaching people to use portables, the menu system is everything. If possible, walk up to various models and see which ones are the most intuitive for you. For example my Legend menus are very similar to Windows. So it made "sense" to me right away.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 6, 2008 -> 08:09 AM) Good plan. The rest of the suggestions would be fine ideas if it was OK if he lost money. That is the number one rule of investing. Only invest what you can afford to lose. I was very encourtaged that as we were discussing investing ideas, I mentioned his team won the Stock Market game two years in a row. He replied, we won by picking one stock and taking a huge risk. All or nothing. Far different then this, dad. (implied: you moron, how could you even compare). One year he picked Timberland because he couldn't think of anything else and was wearing Timberland hicking boots. I am considering setting this up like an investment club with him controlling the investments. That way I can toss in some also, but later pull mine out if necessary. Grandma and grandpa might also wish to join in. He is so far ahead of where I was at that age. I would have travel brochures spread out, my golf clubs and running shoes packed, and blow through that money in a heart beat.

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ May 6, 2008 -> 08:07 AM) I have played video games since pong, and have just about every single system since. I am a firm believer in that video games helps abstract thinking, spatial recognition, hand eye coordination, problem solve, and the ability to multitask. Specifically, I believe it has helped prepared me for my job as I have 7 to 8 windows open with different pieces of data, and the ability to absorb that data and find the needle in the haystack. The ability to multitask, the ability to process complex data sets, the ability to problem solve are all keys of my job. Now dont get me wrong, processing a good book for knowledge is great as well. I am an avvid reader as far as technical books to keep the skillset growing. But I believe that both video games and reading help me in my job. I have my young son who is under 4 playing skill games like Sonic the Hedgehog as well as Tetris to help him with shapes and spatial recognition. He of course is not playing GTAIV and all, but age appropriate games can assist a person in their learning path. I agree 100% and used video games extensively as my kids were growing up as learning tools. What gets frustrating is the attitude that we can have all these taboo items easily available, then blame parents if there kids are exposed to them. The same children on the board that argue against any censorship and parental control would go nuts if their parents excercised the proper controls. "You don't TRUST me!" Society has to place limits. There are certain attributes of a civilized society. There are certain restrictions that are for the majorities benefit.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 6, 2008 -> 07:52 AM) If it is something that he HAS to have that $3500 at the end of that time period, DO NOT invest in ANYTHING to do with stocks. No mutual funds, no commodities, no ETFs, nothing like that. There is the very large chance that you can lose money in those investments. Right, which is why I suggested just parking it in a CD. I am leaning towards suggesting to him $3000 in a CD to pay off the loan in 3-5 years $1000 in a 401K/IRA $500 Savings account $500 invest with an estimated horizon of 6-8 year. About the time he gets out of college and needs a car/house/start a business/etc. He would be adding to this with income. $1000 current spending needs. Single speed bike, new desk, chair, etc.

QUOTE (lostfan @ May 6, 2008 -> 07:51 AM) How about Yahoo puts a link to 2 Girls 1 Cup on their front page? edit: If anyone doesn't know what I'm talking about, nevermind. Probably somethng that should be looked at. But we would be mixing medias here. So, I ask again, porn on Channel 5 after school, or censorship?

QUOTE (CWSGuy406 @ May 6, 2008 -> 01:00 AM) This probably means we should also star going through libraries and ban any *fiction* books that contain any of the above. Yep, it's the video games that makes us young whippersnappers violent. Gosh damn, can David Cross please chime in right about now? You do not see a difference in an interactive video game and reading a book? There are many studies that show humans have markedly different reactions to animated or acted material versus static written words or even pictures. It seems each form of entertainment should be treated as a separate form with appropriate laws.

QUOTE (farmteam @ May 6, 2008 -> 12:37 AM) Honestly, no. I've always felt that it's up to the people viewing it to make the decision (or the parents, if that's the case). I just really don't like the sort of path censorship can start a country on. Simply put, if you don't want to see it, don't. Pornography on CBS after school? No problem, just don't watch?