Texsox

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Apr 9, 2008 -> 08:51 AM) Not sure about schools anymore, but nothing around here closes on Lincoln's Birthday, it's business as usual, and I live in Chicago. Not business as usual Giant Sales!

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Apr 9, 2008 -> 09:16 AM) And this is exactly what I mean, and I'll illustrate it with an example from your post. I have no issues celebrating Lincoln's Birthday, or JR day at the ballpark, etc...but with a respectful tip of the cap and rememberance at the start of the game, and nothing more should be necessary. There is no need to wear JR's number or a patch, just as there is no need for everyone to run around with Lincoln sytle top hats on all day, either. Let's look at the tip of the hat scale and Lincoln's birthday. Schools closed Banks closed Sales everywhere with giant advertisements on radio, tv, newspapers, billboards.

QUOTE (FLsouthsider @ Apr 9, 2008 -> 09:09 AM) Which is why beer prices are up 40 percent at the grocery store. Your points are well founded, but just pushed a little too far. A grocery store operates year round and their infrastructure costs are spread out over that year and over a wider and deeper volume of products. If your local grocer was only open 80 times per year, you would see a much different pricing structure. At a grocer, some items are "loss leaders" to lead people into the stores, and some are the profit items once you arrive. And now compare the price of that beer at the grocery store and have someone buy it, deliver it to your home, serve it to you, and clean up after you. Factor in the cost of your home, electric, gas, insurance, and see what that grocery store beer really costs. We have strayed far from your original, and IMHO valid statement, baseball should be concerned about turning away fans at the gate bnecause of economics. There is a sweet spot between selling 1 @ $20 to one customer and selling 20 @ $1 to 20 customers. Your costs go up with more transactions for the same gross. So that one sale looks tempting, but when that narrow customer base leaves, you are in real trouble.

I think the time is perfect to chronicle what we know in 2008 and this could be a very interesting tool to compare in the future. Basically while it is fresh, and the people are alive, and could be sources. Basically I see this as a reduction of the news coverage into one couple hour film. I missed his earlier films but I hear D, K, and U were very good. Maybe this sequel thing has gotten out of hand

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Apr 9, 2008 -> 09:12 AM) I have no problem celebrating JR, Ruth, Marris, or even Cobb for their accomplishments in the game of baseball. But they should be celebrated with a small opening tip of the cap ceremony and a dedication of the game to them, and thats it. Wearing their numbers or patches or otherwise always feels cheap and empty to me. The very fact they're out there playing this game to this day shows they are not forgotten. I simply don't feel that I need need it thrown in my face for 4+ consecutive hours on end while trying to enjoy a game in order for me to appreciate it and respect it for what it is. What exactly do you feel is being "thrown in your face"?

Energy prices are also a factor.

BTW, putting it in horse racing terms, a Boras client, coming off surgery, seems to be the chalk.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Apr 9, 2008 -> 03:31 AM) that's why winner take all tournaments suck Yep, and why pot splitting is so common. Second palce should at least cover entry and any expenses.

QUOTE (FLsouthsider @ Apr 9, 2008 -> 07:30 AM) Rebuttal to what? Your willingness to pay $8 for a hot dog? Baseball is a business and the team is maximizing revenues. Just not out of my wallet. I don't even live in Chicago anymore, so I'm not exactly the club's target market. However, pardon me if I think it's a long-term mistake to squeeze families and casual fans, turn them upside down and shake every last nickel out of their pockets before they leave the stadium. That certainly is a fair comment. But it costs more to stay at a hotel in Chicago than Streamwood. The beers in the bar are more expensive and so is the cab ride. While everyone on the plane arrives at the same time, the folks in first class pay a little more. The team is now first class, and charges accordingly. So like that same cold Sam Adams costs $2 at your local megamart, drink it at the InterContinental downtown and it will set you back $12. I can spend less than $20 and have a great time at my local Independent League game. The best seats, couple three beers, a couple hot dogs, maybe some peanuts. But the quality of play is not the same. Hell, Bevington was managing in this league a couple years ago.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 9, 2008 -> 06:11 AM) Translation: I know the Sox aren't going to give Joe the biggest contract offer, but I am leaving the door open for them to surprise me. Couple of givens, unless you are offer your "rocker" chair, you leave every possibility open, and always talk nice about the team you are playing for. There may have been a player who did not send a bouquet of flowers to his team and management as he was leaving, but I can't remember one. So let's discount the usual babble that occures. A couple of points that jumped out at me. Boras: Seems fair to everyone and would explain not signing him earlier. Boras: Hey Boras, remember this guy? IIRC he couldn't run when you negotiated with the Tigers. Brilliant work btw, everyone is looking smart now. But this confirms what we all suspected, you were not certain he could play after surgery.

QUOTE (Kid Gleason @ Apr 9, 2008 -> 08:21 AM) Why only the past 50 years? Is it because we know nothing touches the brilliance of the Marx Bros.? You're right. I think it would be fun to hear BigEdWalsh and FlaSoxxJim tell us about going to see double features for a nickle and how orchestras were way better then talkies

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 9, 2008 -> 07:15 AM) If you have a rebuttal, I would love to hear it. Not really a rebuttal, but concession and other prices that go through a third party may or may not have that dramatic an effect on the teams payroll. I'm assuming, and correct me if I'm wrong, that those are to a third party vendor and not controlled by the team. So It seems complaints about some items may be more valid then say ticket prices. But your main point is spot on and perfect. I'm still kind of amazed that two of the most expensive lineups in baseball are in the AL Central. I'll accept a Christmas card from JR as well. I think the ownership group, under his watch, have done a masterful job with the team. They took on the opportunity to sell Pepsi in Atlanta, or PCs in Cupertino, and thrived.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Apr 8, 2008 -> 11:37 PM) I'm sick as well. It comes and goes. When I suck balls. Hope you feel better. Maybe you should stop? BTW, that was close to a great haiku

QUOTE (max power @ Apr 9, 2008 -> 02:01 AM) I think its stupid and based on the past, which shouldn't be celebrated for being ignorant. Instead some races, sexual preferences, and other minorities use crap like this as a crutch. They want to be recognized as different and forever will be until they get a notion to change. I'd prefer them to just recognize JR as one of baseball's greats not the first one of the colored guys to cross over. That's my two cents. If the celebration was for being ignorant, they would be wearing the numbers of the players who refused to take the field, spat on him, and called him n***** from their dugout. They would be wearing St. Louis Cardinal uniforms in remembrance of a team that was very close to not playing and forfeiting if he was allowed to play. BTW, a little link to Chicago baseball, albeit the north side. The manager of that Dodger team, and later the manager for the Cubs, it was Leo Durocher of "nice guys finish last" fame who took a stand and told the players to stfu and play. And being a good capitalistic American, pointed out to his players that Robinson would help them all make money. So no, we're not celebrating the ignorant, we're celebrating the courage to walk out on the field despite death threats. We're celebrating while playing under so much pressure he earned the first ever Rookie of the Year award. "They" want to be recognized? We celebrate Lincoln's Birthday, and I see some strong parallels. In a cloud of ignorance there was someone who stood up and made a difference. I think there should be more of an awareness of the people like Branch Ricky and Leo Durocher who made it possible, but it is not in any way a crutch to honor the man who stood up and took all the hatred and abuse the narrow minded bigots to toss out and kept playing. Perhaps if there were no more abusers, your point would seem more valid, but the more I read your post, the more I realize there is still a long way to go.

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Apr 8, 2008 -> 11:35 PM) You suggested that if the cartoon video was of a random middle eastern person being shot, people here would cheer for it. Your post was obviously intended for direct insult to certain posters. Who? I have no idea. Honestly, I have no idea what thread has any content with posters cheering for Israel to attack people at a funeral. If there is one, I don't care to read it. The threads were not random middle Eastern, they were specifically Palestinians.

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QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Apr 8, 2008 -> 10:31 PM) everyone would now know Fields is expendable. If a team wants Fields, they are going to trade for him, but it's going to hurt his value. I agree in many situations, that is the key. But in this one, I think there would be enough Fields love around the league that someone will pony up full value. We're not the only ones to love his potential.

QUOTE (knightni @ Apr 8, 2008 -> 06:32 PM) If you PM me the list, then everyone won't copy you. Forrest Gump (Don't know why I just thought of that one)

I don't know what he's saying, but it seems he is saying it at a veeeeeery high pitch . . .

Dr. Strangelove Blazing Saddles Airplane Serial Animal House RV It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World The Graduate Annie Hall I'll think of a few more. I assume no comedy DVD, concert appearances, etc. are permitted?

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 8, 2008 -> 03:36 PM) It shouldnt hurt when I pee, should it?

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QUOTE (mr_genius @ Apr 8, 2008 -> 06:07 PM) Texsox, no one here would cheer a video of random people from the middle east being executed. c'mon now. No, not a video. But we had several threads regarding Israel attacking mourners at a funeral. (for example)

We are getting dangerously close to another Fields v. Crede thread, and we really do not need one. /Back to Fields developing At a minimum, he's a September call up. I think he needs a couple stretches with the club this year, and is probably chomping at the bit to get that chance. Not certain how he gets it, without an injury or trade.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 8, 2008 -> 05:17 PM) Pitching. ironic we just traded some pitching.