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I agree with you. When he hit the ball & scored the in park home run I said what a great movie. Then all of sudden it was like WTF? The rest of the way I kept thinking of the Jimmy Neutron movie. WTF: What the Freak .. conservatives try to avoid excessive profanity despite the primitive nature of liberals to feel the need to supersize it.

What is moral is what promotes kindness, discipline, honor & loyalty in the world. What is immoral is that which promotes the opposite. Pretty simple stuff.

There are less gays in the world than most other demographic & social groups. Do they get equal billing from Hollywood? No. That's why it's an agenda. The fact remains they are an insignificant population with respect to the mainstream. If science has anything to say about it that will become an even greater fact in the years to come. As for any generalizations I make they come from the headlines. If you believe otherwise produce some headlines to the contrary.

I clearly outlined my position as how the two party's are percieved by the headlines. But I can say my personal experience with people of the Left pretty much fits my description of them to the letter. I would like to add though that I'm glad there is still some moral outrage over crooked things on Wall Street & political connections stemming from them. If the day should ever come when are capitalistic ideology sees such actions on commonplace this is not a place I'd want to live in. My fear is that after 30 yrs under a public education system where ethics & morals of what is right & wrong in the marketplace have long since been forgotten that is where the nation is headed. Yes, God at least opens the doors to developing a conscience for such things. Without God in the classroom the fate of the nation rests on each individual's idea of what is ethical or moral. A recipe for disaster.

Her role in the Sound of Music is legendary as the film is shown yearly & still remains a big event. She should be honored for that. Having seen Chicken Little with my kids, the Pig is gay. They don't know that, but I do. Why? Because I've heard the Streisand reference so many times that's the first thing that comes to mind. But to this day I still don't understand the connection! What if you are straight & happen to like some of her movies & her albums?

I can't believe you are picking on Green Day. How many of us can list at least 50 bands over the years that have produced controversial songs, violent songs, songs of warfare, songs of strife, songs of gang violence, songs of mob violence, etc? Rock has a long history of being OUT THERE in political though & consciousness. Are you too young to remember Judas Priest, Black Sabbath, AC/DC, Dio, Scorpions, U2, Led Zeppelin, the Who, Styx, YES, Rush, REO, Aerosmith, G&R, Motley Crue, etc, etc, etc. Though I don't appreciate the excessive use of the N-word by many of today's rap artists I do respect their right to use it. I will never understand how this word went from being taboo to a term of endearment for some people. I can understand some people's need to remember their history of enslavement but they can't possibly think that wide-spread exposure of this word can remain confined to just their group. The more they use it the more it will grow in use beyond their group. Their term of endearment will just resort back to a purpose to denegrade another.

Ask yourself two simple questions & this all becomes clear: 1) What do the Dems stand for? 2) What do the GOP stand for? From what we can gather from headlines the Dems stand for: * a failed education system that continues to fall further behind the other G8's * a failed healthcare system that is moving towards insolvency * a failed social security system that is moving towards insolvency * a failed tax code system that raises the cost of doing business in the USA vs other G8's * a failed Hollywood agenda to convince the populace that being gay is as normal as tap water * killing babies * a failed judicial system that is being swamped & pushed to the breaking point with civil suit litigation. * a failed Hollywood agenda to make references to religion in the public square taboo. Even Hollywood has abandoned this agenda already. * a failed Hollywood agenda to make indecency moral Now on the other side of the coin what does the GOP stand for: capitalism. Seriously, I don't have to write anything else. All of their moral intentions & what not are born of capitalistic reasons. I think this is why as more of America transforms from a producing nation to a consuming nation the masses are becoming even greater capitalists. The closer you align yourself to capitalism the more conservative you will become. Change for the sake of change does not take greater priority in a capitalists life than the acquisition & preservation of wealth. Think about that as it pertains to their individual positions: * protecting babies : why is this important to the GOP? Abortions kill future tax payers. Illegals don't pay taxes. * transitioning public education into subsidized private education: competition in the marketplace breeds winners & phases out losers. * transitions public healthcare into subsidized private healthcare: see above. * Aligning themselves with religion: Do you really have to ask? Americans love to give money to religious causes because it makes them feel good about themselves. So when one party aligns themselves more or less with those causes & those institutions Americans are more likely to feel good about themselves when supporting them. * Promote God in the public square & the classroom : Again this is obvious from a capitalistic viewpoint. God represents discipline & order. Something that can be controlled & manipulated in the marketplace with no equal. One of the central tennants of capitalism is to gain control of the marketplace. Now over the past 30 yrs we've seen the Dems gradually embrace capitalism but they have still not evolved to the point where they are comfortable manipulating it. They are still in love with their immorality & their moral relativism to where they don't know how to manipulate it. Thus you have a party with no real identity. The vocal part wants to align itself with the Left. The silent part wants to align itself with the Right. The middle part is like lost sheep not knowing which way to go. What the Dems need to do is follow the Hollywood agenda. Hollywood's gay agenda is alive & kicking. It seems there is no TV show or movie being made that doesn't have some reference to gays. Unlike the rest of the G8 markets Hollywood is no longer portraying them as instruments of comic relief. But at the same time Hollywood is embracing religion & God. More & more TV shows & movies are incorporating references. So they are using the two vehicles to merge their agenda with America's spiritual populace. You don't see an outwardly embracement of atheism in Hollywood any more. Now of course the Right knows very well what Hollywood is doing & they will make use of it to further demonize the Dems about it. What's ironic about all this is that the people who make the profits off Hollywood are not so far left any more. Twenty years from now conservatives will most likely run Hollywood. Why? Because they are effective managers at manipulating the marketplace: appease the saints, appease the sinners, & demonize those politicians that stand in the way of greater profits.

But the Right is no bastion of saint hood either. You are right that they have no real interest to overturn Roe v Wade. But can you blame them? Two thirds of Americans are against abortion & yet support a woman's right to choose. That's a huge voting block that the right can energize around both national & local elections. The Right knows very well all they have to do is appease these people (show an effort) & they will feel more comfortable with the GOP than the Dems. I don't ever forsee Roe V Wade being overturned. The history of the Right has never been about right or wrong. It's about money. Regulation = money. They would put themselves in place (capitalism wise) to benefit from abortion regulation before the regulation ever passes. The same thing can be said just about any issue in America today. The power brokers behind the Right position themselves to benefit from new legislation. That's why we see a general trend of education moving from public government controlled institutions to private enterprise. The same can be said of healthcare, welfare, warfare, etc.

Again along the lines of religion the Dems are about to be nuked. Have you checked out TBN lately? I check it out about once a month just to see what their selling these days & low & behold I find a good looking blonde preaching to the masses. If this is the trend the Dems have MUCH to fear. There is nothing more captivating for those of us who are proud of our religous heritage than a good looking female preacher. This one in particular has it all: the voice, the energy, & the looks. Her success is sure to lead to a banner crop of followers. As for the fear & hatred thing that is so overblown. The Left hates God, discipline, morality, self-restraint, & the list goes on. Just watch HBO for a week & you can see clearly what the Left is selling. Of course just like everything else associated with the Left HBO's ratings are tumbling as well. HBO had a good thing with the Soprano's & Curb. It appealed to the middle. Both Left & Right. Rome & the other new shoes? Leftist propaganda. They want to show us the excesses of Rome because they lack imagination of enough to envision it PRIVATELY for themselves. The Left is for increasing exhibitionism because thoughts are not enough for them. They can't feel happy unless someone is paying attention to them.

Any word on 2 for 1 Pepsi Tuesdays? A thing of the past?

It's really Ozzie that threw the wrench into the machine thinking we're not in need of repair when he announced he wants a new #2 hitter. Up until that time the focus was re-sign/replace Kong's bat & try to upgrade the DH spot. Everything else was thought to be good & solid. But then Ozzie threw this in. He wants even more speed on the bases. Now the question is where is this speed going to play? If you bring it to 2B then does Iguchi become the DH hitting 6th? If Iguchi moves to DH is there still room for Thomas? If you bring it to RF then does Dye become the DH> If there any room for Thomas then? Of course in the post-Kong version of the White Sox you can bring the new speed to RF, move Dye to 1B & then there is room for Thomas. What's interesting about all of this & the fact that the White Sox didn't make Kong a formal offer is that Furcal would make a great #2. SPods LF Furcal 2B Dye 1B/RF Iguchi/Thomas DH Rowand CF AJP C Crede 3B Uribe SS RF/1B is open for new talent.

You just said it yourself. Piazza will want a 3 yr deal & Nomar at least a 2. Carl might settle for a 1 yr & we know Frank will. Money-wise it just makes no sense to take a gamble on Nomar or Piazza.

___ intellect makes this tedious. A=B represents the mischaracterization of Pat Robertson's quotes. They relate to God. They are the subject of this topic. :rolly

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sp...tesox-headlines He brings up a good point with Belle's contract. It's not unlike the Cub 3B's. There are so many clauses for him to leave for greener pasteurs. Plus Belle had produced a string of MVP like seasons before that deal. Kong has never won the MVP. He mentions Delgado & Thome as upgraded replacements. The reports seem to suggest that Thome is healthy again. Delgado's production in 2005 did nothing to diminish his contract value. I just don't see the Marlins shopping him unless they can get someone to absorb the contract entirely. So that really leaves Thome. Philly needs pitching .. badly. The White Sox have an excess of starting pitching. If Kong leaves then I would think Thome at a discount is the likely replacement. As to what it will take it will depend whether Williams can build a pkg around El Duque. If not then it's probably Contreras or BMac. If not an El Duque pkg then the White Sox will be looking for sizeable cash to offset Thome's salary. As for an El Duque pkg you are probably looking at one of the regulars in the pen in addition to ml stars.

The concensus by most analysts on the Rollins deal (which incl an $8.5M option in 2011) is that it was a dumb decision by Philly. He was not eligible for FA until after 2006 & the contract well exceeds his arbitration value. I don't think most GM's are going to look at that deal as a pre-cursor to Furcal. $8-10M for a SS is reserved for guys who produce on avg an RPG of 6 or better. Furcal has never come close to that.

Simply put offering Carl a new deal will cost the Sox far less than signing either Piazza or Nomar. Piazza to the Sox is pure fantasy.

Another prime example of failed socialist policies.

No. I think you were pointing out that you don't ____ basic logic such as: A = B, B = C so therefore A = C. It's pretty obvious in that thread path.

Well there is another angle to all this but I'm sure some of you don't want to hear it. Religion favors the GOP. Put aside policies for a second & try to think about the average Joe & Mary Jane in America. The GOP is unafraid & unabashed at embracing God & mentioning their faith any chance they get. It comes as natural to them as drinking water. In contrast the Dems acts as if they are sanitizing religion. So as a result of this one simple thing Joe & Mary Jane feel more comfortable listening to the GOP than the Dems. Now attached to that comfort is that good ole' southern dialect that blends the GOP members with the town preachers. That connection leads to the **ca-ching** value of rhetoric.

It's shocking news. That's why it's front page. People expect good & are shocked by bad. I'm actually grateful for that. I hope it never reverses.

Mark Cordes, a professor of law at Northern Illinois University: "The court said you can't categorize people purely by race, and everybody has the right to compete for seats in admissions The same thing would apply to a fellowship. At that point, you aren't treating people as individuals." And in 25 yrs when caucasians are a minority it will still be true.

Only in these forums would someone be _____ enough to equate a firestorm of rioting spreading across 300 French towns to discrimination of blacks in southern America nearly 1/2 a century ago. These Frenchies (who probably would all vote for Democrats if giving the chance) were just looking for an excuse to engage in civil unrest. If you believe they were all acting under a noble cause you're a bigger ____ than I thought you were.

Congratulations! Be careful, mindful, & ever watchful as they grow up. It's been my experience that girls are a LOT tougher to raise than boys. I thought I would have smooth sailing after she did well on her entrance exams this past year. Now after 2 months MY LIFE away from work has been reduced to teaching her algebra. I'd like to say her teacher ____, the school ____, & somehow the Democrats are to blame for this but after spending daily sessions with her I am left to conclude it's God's fault. He must have felt my life was too good. Algebra is as natural to me as drinking a glass of water. But to her? It's like climbing Mt Everest. With 2 more on the way up the ladder please God take pity on me. Help me teach them to be good Algebra students. The purpose of life is to love & serve my Lord, Jesus Christ. Who knew that would entail devoting my life to my kids math classes? Woe is me.

Only in these forums would someone be _____ enough to equate mentioning God in the classroom to discrimination of blacks in the south nearly 1/2 a century ago :rolly

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/cgi-bin/mag...003-04-05&rel=1 Under the agreement, ISFA will service the debt on the bonds with money saved on annual maintenance fees it formerly paid the White Sox. The White Sox will no longer be reimbursed by the ISFA for maintenance of the park. It's pretty obvious who's paying for the renovations.