Everything posted by caulfield12
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Colome remains with White Sox, who always had ample interest in him
Castellanos is the best bet simply because he won’t need a megacontract and is already familiar with the division/pitchers. It also has the effect of weakening a rival while strengthening the Sox simultaneously. 27 years old, and the perfect definition of a guy you expect to be between 1.5-3.0 fWAR every season.
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Colome remains with White Sox, who always had ample interest in him
Gordon? We really need more injured/rehab players in this organization. At least we would get to hear about JayHey’s leadership, Game 7 WS speech and multiple Gold Gloves (that would be a change, I suppose.) Essentially, he would be this decade’s version of Alex Rios. The biggest problem is the Cubs are unhappy with Almora and Schwarber, not to mention Russell...so they really need Heyward’s stability in the outfield.
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Sunday Game Thread
We’re bottom five in MLB In runs scored/runs allowed. Maybe even worse than the entire NL, and the Royals last time I checked. Other than KC and the Tigers to bail out the record a bit, we’re a high 60’s win team masquerading as a low to mid 70’s win one. Progress...sure, but that still depends on Jimenez and McCann/Collins, our four best prospects (including Cease/Kopech) in 2020 and the crapshoot that is free agency. I guess because we can see those final four (or 5/6 depending on Dunning and the remaining outfield prospects) pieces coming into play, everyone can at least envision a 2013 Royals or 2015 Cubs’ progression next year. Of course, that requires everyone staying healthy or at least not having any rehab setbacks.
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Luis Robert kills it in his first game in AAA
That’s fine...because we keep hearing we were just one pick away from Benintendi, one away from Jo Adell or that Beck kid from NC...but there always seems to be an excuse. Or Buehler vs. Fulmer, Collins would have gone 1-1 if we were drafting, etc. Sure, we can go back and say Aiken/Kolek/Rodon/Schwarber have all been disappointments (or look at Gordon Beckham’s class), the draft’s a crapshoot some years even in the first five picks, but it’s just highly ironic that the scout responsible for honing in on Trout still got fired by the Angels while all we have for comfort are rationalizations and a string of injuries. Now the White Sox are pretty much stuck in a position where it’s almost impossible for them to get another Top Five pick. Which means they have no choice but to get it right in free agency to fix the RF problem, starting rotation and especially the bullpen.
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To Sell or Not to Sell?
Wouldn’t that be true if you took Kopech, Cease and Vaughn (what the hell, Dunning too) out of nearly every team’s Top Ten list? Maybe the Braves, Rays and Padres would still be in the teens with those losses...
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Sunday Game Thread
More amazed Herrera didn’t give up a run in the 8th. Also amusing to hear the announcers talking up Ryan Cordell like he’s 1984-85 Eric Davis or something...he has five tools, sure, but he can’t consistently apply any of them enough to be a regular. Still, just the fact a White Sox player actually approached a throw from RF correctly...wasn’t flat footed or drifting or even falling backwards as he caught it, that was refreshing at least. Shades of the early 2000’s gauntlet going to Anaheim, Oakland and Seattle and getting mauled nearly every series.
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The Acceptance Phase of James Shields and Tatis Jr.
In some ways, maybe the most impressive play of his short career...extricating himself from a pickoff and getting back safely to first. https://www.mlb.com/video/tatis-jr-s-acrobatic-slide Also, first four hit game...about the only negative is that he still hasn’t had his first walk-off RBI...struck out when he had that opportunity in the bottom of the 9th yesterday.
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Luis Robert kills it in his first game in AAA
Deliberately tanking has really hurt attendance in a number of markets, especially the smaller/mid-sized ones. There’s no argument about that. As Greg knows, the Royals got four and one half years of excitement out of what amounts to30 years of tanking...and are close to back to being in the same position they were in 15 years ago. Maybe that’s part of the fear, and the prism from which he sees the Sox...and it’s a perfectly legitimate one due to our front offices’ paltry record with free agent signings. A White Sox team that we have to hope will up the payrolls back to the $150-160 million range simply has no other way to compete with Boston, NYY, Houston and now Minnesota. And no team can successfully BUILD simply through free agency. There has to be that young, cost-controlled core OR unlimited financial resources. That said, if Colome is traded for another Tilson/Cordell type...instead of at least Avi Garcia/Top 75ish milb potential...and the bullpen continues to be erratic at best in 2020, Greg will be at least partially right.
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Luis Robert kills it in his first game in AAA
Sliding glove aka oven mitt?
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7/13 GT - Sox @ OAK - 3:07 PM CST
At least sporting goods stores are now selling Sox jerseys again, this year it’s Jimenez. And the wild card talk can be thrown out. Last couple of years at the I-88 outlet mall, Abreu was being outsold by Maddon...and in the Quad Cities, the White Sox are definitely behind the Cubs, Cardinals, Brewers, Twins and maybe even the Royals.
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Two Sides to the Trade & Free Agent Coin
The Padres’ actually lasered in on Tatis because he was playing against their team in AZ in extended spring and more of their scouts were in attendance...ironically, his breakout game that started to really put him on the map with the Keith Laws of the world was against the White Sox right after he’d been traded.
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FS: If This Game Were the Revolutionary War, There Would Be No America
Filibuster?
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Leury Garcia
The only question is whether you want to pay both Yolmer and Leury at the same time...with Anderson and Robert in 2020, Leury obviously becomes less of a necessity. Most of us would pick Leury for the next two years...but that might change yet again by season’s end.
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Let's talk about White Sox promotions and baseball promotions
The biggest argument for Robert now is what exactly is our core after 2023? While 2021-23 (barring amazing pitching investments in FA, 2020 is still a learning how to win/development year) is a short/er window compared to the originally hoped for 4-5 years...it’s probably more realistic for the typically mid-market Sox. If they start breaking out extensions for McCann, Moncada and Robert, then the LONGer term contention window is at least realistic. But then look at the Cubs and Indians...just three years removed from their World Series season and barely hanging on. Lots of good arguments, such as Reinsdorf’s advanced age. So, emulate the Padres...who have brought up six and counting Top 100 milb prospects in one year, doing this all in the face of perhaps the most dominantly-positioned organization in baseball, the Dodgers. Light up the fanbase. Break the internet. Clap back on doubters, etc. Really crank up the pressure on Epstein/Maddon/Ricketts as the Cubs are simultaneously going to start demanding $80 more per year from baseball and non-baseball fans alike in Chicagoland from cable and satellite providers. To conclude, the main reason for me to push Madrigal and Robert and Vaughn...there’s simply way too much volatility going forward with almost the entire future rotation with one TJS in their histories, and knowing a revision cuts the odds of successful return down to the 60-65% range. Let’s just call this the Mets’ “2014-15 pitching dynasty” argument.
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Two Sides to the Trade & Free Agent Coin
Collins, Rutherford, Dunning and Rodon could just as easily be out of baseball five years from now... and Kopech is a complete wild card whether he can figure out a happy medium in pitching vs. throwing max velocity as he starts his comeback.
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GT: Tigers (27-54) @ White Sox (41-42), July 4
Here’s the article...https://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-biz-cubs-tv-network-cost-20190521-story.html Let’s say $6.50 per subscriber, that would amount to $78 extra per year on their bill for non-baseball fans. Especially if they don’t make the playoffs this year and still try to foist $7-9 extra on monthly charges, look out...
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GT: Tigers (27-54) @ White Sox (41-42), July 4
Considering Boston as a “crouching tiger, hidden dragon”...it’s difficult to argue the two divisions as close, especially with CLE trending downwards and the Blue Jays with a slew of young players on the offensive side. Only the Orioles are terrible. If the starting rotation for the Indians was pitching (and healthier) like 2016-18, sure...a puncher’s chance they could get on a roll, but Jose Ramirez falling off the map has really dinged that offense.
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GT: Tigers (27-54) @ White Sox (41-42), July 4
It also largely depends on whether Bryant, Baez and Contreras stay with the Cubs long-term. Keeping all three in the fold seems impossible, even for the Ricketts. So, if you add Robert and Madrigal living up to their billing, definitely the case. But the pitching...is still more about potential/projection than reality at this point.
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Two Sides to the Trade & Free Agent Coin
Yep, it all depends on winning right now. Cleveland is already considering a teardown, where Bauer would be first out the door...and Minnesota has to prove they’re willing to pony up in order to retain some of their key free agents. Like the Sox, they also have a ton of youngsters like Berrios (already seems committed to FA), Rosario, Buxton, Polanco, Kepler, that are deserving of extensions, but it’s going to take an almost unprecedented opening of the wallet for a franchise that still is revenue-challenged to pull it off. From my observations, the White Sox fanbase is almost equally excited to what Minnesotans are giving their runaway first place team in support. Not a shocker, but a bit of a surprise. I think losing all those playoff series and then the inconsistent results the last 2-3 years have kept their fans from buying in 100% until they actually prove they can win against the big boys or even the Rays in the postseason. http://www.espn.com/mlb/attendance
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How Long Until Contracts Start Being Discussed?
The other thing is that Giolito’s from a very wealthy family. The reality is that he’s probably already set for life...or close to it. Whether he extends depends entirely how comfortable he is with the Sox and how much he credits them for his turnaround, relationship with Cooper/coaches, etc. Obviously the Sox were extremely patient with Lucas in 2019 and gave him every opportunity, that should definitely count for something. A pitcher already have one TJS in his background would lend one to believe they’re not going beyond four years with pitchers with such a profile...five has seemingly been the third rail they won’t touch. The Danks contract going south still stings, despite the likely insurance write offs. At any rate... Priorities: 1) Moncada 2) McCann (an extension takes pressure of having to pursue Grandal off table...becoming more and more apparent they can’t rely too much on Collins being a catcher who gets the majority of starts.) 3) Giolito (still need another 8-10 starts like previously, some will argue all the way through mid season 2020) 4) Robert
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Moncada
Moncada (and Robert, too) are certainly going to be looking at huge paydays in order to sign extensions cutting into their free agency years with all that money in the bank for their families already. This is where Hahn will earn his money (or not). Anderson has turned out to be another solid extension...Jimenez, although he might not appear to be the biggest bargain in the world by fwar/bwar until or unless his defense can be close to average.
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White Sox worst AL team in the last decade
Plus they had already inherited Altuve...a future MVP. Springer pick, too?
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White Sox worst AL team in the last decade
22nd ranked team at ASB according to averaging of all 30 theathletic.com beat writers.
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The Acceptance Phase of James Shields and Tatis Jr.
The weird part is why Hahn still gave in on the trade after pushback from Paddy and Tatis, Jr. The biggest thing with kids at ages 14-17 is projection. They were warned by Tatis’ father that he was still not done growing...maybe they assumed that meant he would lose speed instead of gaining it and have to be moved off of SS to another position. Of course, one could argue that his light power at the time would only increase with more height/bigger frame and adding muscle...which is usually the case when still physically maturing kids hit stateside. He’s now one of the arguably 3-5 fastest base runners in MLB at 6’3 1/2” and got his 13th steal on what amounted to a pitchout to Buster Posey last night. He has now also scored twice from third on short pop ups to 2B...the most recent infielder was so rattled that the throw wasn’t even close. Not to mention scoring all the way from second on an out recorded at 1B and the LUIS Robert highlight of scoring from SECOND on a deep outfield flyout. He also had to at the very least have possessed above average arm strength, because he has made 360 degree throws from SS to first in the last week at 93.7 and 94.0, the two hardest of any SS in MLB this year. In fact, if you want to pick on one of his bad habits, it’s now waiting a beat or two long like Shawon Dunston used to do in order to make the out at first more dramatic/highlight reel-worthy. So you had a still-growing SS who already flashed the three most important qualities of a quality up the middle player...speed, throwing arm and raw fielding ability. To trade that player at age 17 before you discover what you really have, knowing his bloodlines, and knowing one of the most knowledgeable GMs about Latin American talent is already insisting on that specific player...well, it should have sent up alarm bells up and down every level of the organization that they were in the process of being outscouted on their own player and that Paddy’s original scouting assessment on Tatis was being overrun by the immediacy of trying to compete in 2016 with half a roster and a foundering manager.