Everything posted by caulfield12
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Sox trade for Yonder Alonso; Alex Call to CLE
Has there ever been a time in MLB history where just TWO players with $500+ million in combined contract value were brought in over one offseason?
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Sox trade for Yonder Alonso; Alex Call to CLE
Why didn’t the Indians just keep Alonso and use him to secure Machado on a deal with an opt-out after Year 3?
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Sox trade for Yonder Alonso; Alex Call to CLE
Yonder Alonso is a consistent 0.533 fWAR player (2015, 2016, 2018) unless you’re suddenly expecting the 2.4 from 2017 as he turns 32 to open the 2019 season. We ALL know how well that always turns out for the Sox when we look at the numbers on the back of the baseball card, lol. At least we now have our very own version of Logan Morrison, albeit he could cut down on Anderson, Moncada and Machado throwing errors appreciably.
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Sox trade for Yonder Alonso; Alex Call to CLE
That’s not even counting Delmonico. We already got rid of Davidson and Avi that essentially were offense-first players who fit a similar profile.
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Sox trade for Yonder Alonso; Alex Call to CLE
Maybe the best thing is Harper to the Cubs and Machado to NYY...then the White Sox would have no choice to clean house or end up like the Redskins. The only thing standing between that happening and the Sox current quandary is the Q trade, Robert, Madrigal and another #3 pick.
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Sox trade for Yonder Alonso; Alex Call to CLE
Exactly...there was a simultaneous league-wide run on Alonso? Well, not according to what we gave up in talent.
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Sox trade for Yonder Alonso; Alex Call to CLE
Well, just like the Bulls never landing a whale and turning into a dumpster fire, what SHOULD the fans do if they strike out, clamor for a Hahn statue at 35th and Shields when he’s the one largely responsible for creating this Hail Mary desperation play in the first place in order to save his job?
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Sox trade for Yonder Alonso; Alex Call to CLE
Does Abreu even have a desire to DH?
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Sox trade for Yonder Alonso; Alex Call to CLE
Someone better check who has Reinsdorf’s power of attorney right now when you start talking about $600-800 million committed for just two players.
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Sox trade for Yonder Alonso; Alex Call to CLE
They can’t trade him now, that’s for sure...they simply would try to max out his value and open the spot for a Madrigal, but there’s nothing to say he couldn’t play CF with Jimenez in LF and Robert in RF, other than his history of nagging injuries like the hamstring. A Machado signing and Jimenez up takes all the pressure to save the franchise off his back.
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Sox trade for Yonder Alonso; Alex Call to CLE
I was responding to the trade Abreu and bring him back in the future argument...
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Sox trade for Yonder Alonso; Alex Call to CLE
Why would Machado want to sign up for a team with Yonder Alonso as its best “proven” hitter?
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Sox trade for Yonder Alonso; Alex Call to CLE
It would be less risky if they weren’t helping our main divisional rival get better simultaneously.
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Sox trade for Yonder Alonso; Alex Call to CLE
Because it’s not helping at all if we just turn around and dump Abreu to save money. UNLESS THAT MEANS HARPER OR MACHADO. Biggest point is we are helping the Indians offload even more salary...which opens their competitive window into 2021 and 2022 depending on what they get back for Kluber and who else they can sign. Their only bad remaining contract is Kipnis, and that’s only for 2019 with a buyout for 2020.
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Sox trade for Yonder Alonso; Alex Call to CLE
It will ONLY be fine if they get Machado. Otherwise, it’s another debacle to add to Sox lore.
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Sox trade for Yonder Alonso; Alex Call to CLE
The whole point of dumping Santana was to move Hoskins to 1B...aiyo.
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Sox trade for Yonder Alonso; Alex Call to CLE
How would dumping Abreu for a B prospect and a lesser hitter than Palka help to secure Machado? That would mean the majority of our best hitters from what was already a pretty bad offense would be gone (Abreu, Narvaez, Davidson, Smith, Avi).
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Sox trade for Yonder Alonso; Alex Call to CLE
Cue the Machado/Belle comparison stories to start popping up everywhere.
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Sox trade for Yonder Alonso; Alex Call to CLE
Would feel more confident with Ozzie Guillen courting Machado than this train wreck.
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Sox trade for Yonder Alonso; Alex Call to CLE
That front office can run rings around the White Sox...not even close. They still have a hole at catcher (Perez/Haase), which means they end up with Grandal, Puig/Peterson, Santana and huge payroll flexibility. We might as well give them Colome, too. Heck, they might as well sign Machado or Harper.
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Sox trade for Yonder Alonso; Alex Call to CLE
That would be ironic. The large market White Sox getting a competitive balance pick in return from the smallest market Indians that have a payroll 200% bigger than ours.
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Sox trade for Yonder Alonso; Alex Call to CLE
Why are we helping the Indians? This is just idiotic. Call, that part is completely besides the point, although he’ll probably morph into their Jason Tyner. Why would Machado care about a teammate who would only be around one season?
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Sox trade for Yonder Alonso; Alex Call to CLE
Aren’t all indications Jimenez would be in LF? They really are going back to Palka in RF? There better be a solid indication they can bring in Machado or all these chess moves will look pointless. The Indians clearing salary of Encarnacion and Alonso means Santana and a bunch of hitters will come over from LAD for Kluber and free up RF for Harper. We actually helped improve the Indians’ payroll glut...which really clears up next year when they can dump Kipnis.
- Nightengale: JR has talked to Boras, no offer yet submitted for harper (Harper Thread *updates in first post*)
- Nightengale: JR has talked to Boras, no offer yet submitted for harper (Harper Thread *updates in first post*)