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Spanky, I'm not sure that's called for, lol... They're still in 1st by 1 1/2 games. I don't think anyone expected to run away with the AL Central.

Little Nicky Delmonico to the rescue!!!

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ May 24, 2016 -> 08:59 PM) I think Jacob May is the CF next year. He can give you what Austin Jackson is. Not if they want to sniff the playoffs. You can't break in Fulmer, Anderson and May and have playoff aspirations.

21,550 tonight. Outdrawn by the Twins, somehow.

Driver'sseat, while that's true, how does that help them monetize those games in the future by a factor of 2X??? Obviously they're earning money (more per game from CSN than WGN), but it's notoriously been difficult to get fans to pay more (or at least something, when it has been free to an extent). It's kind of like the analogy of it being much easier to lower prices that are perceived to be too high than it is to get someone to pay a fee for a service they've been consuming free of charge.

And that hopeless feeling didn't sink in this season until the top of the 9th after Ryan Rua's homer to put the Rangers up 13-11. DJ and Farmer said the same thing on the radio, you always had the sense in the late innings with this team that the White Sox were capable of mounting a comeback and would fight to the very last out. That's gone, at least for now. Doesn't mean it can't return...

And Fathom just listed the 3 hardest positions to ACQUIRE in a line-up. C/CF/SS You could probably add pure leadoff hitter and #2 hitter in today's baseball environment. Left-handed hitting (Lillian shout out). Thankfully, we should have SS covered with Anderson, but good luck with the other 2.

And Fathom just listed the 3 hardest positions to ACQUIRE in a line-up. C/CF/SS You could probably add pure leadoff hitter and #2 hitter in today's baseball environment. Left-handed hitting (Lillian shout out). Thankfully, we should have SS covered with Anderson, but good luck with the other 2.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 24, 2016 -> 08:00 PM) Bad combination when your bat is too slow to hit a fastball and you can't adjust your swing to hit something slow and low The Tigers are really good judges of hitting talent. Well, except for Upton, haha. Avila and Jackson just weren't the same players and they were let go (Avila by his father). They signed JD Martinez, Nick Castellanos is becoming quite the player (finally) and they also the good sense to bring in Kinsler for Fielder. Gose and Maybin might not work out, but, for one of the "worst" farm systems, they always come up with players like Moya. Greg's OKC bet is working out, but god help us if the Royals take 3/4 or 4/4 with that line-up as Greg also predicted.

Tomlin's going to put himself on the Cy Young radar as long as he remains undefeated....but it would be a miracle with his stuff if he could sustain this level of performance an entire season.

Saladino deserves at least a month of playing time to prove himself at SS...unless the organization and especially the coaches in Charlotte feel he's 100% ready. Doubt that's the case. The last thing we need to do is screw up Anderson's career.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 24, 2016 -> 07:43 PM) Boston was telling him to go We really need to have coaches like other teams in the league that 100% specialize in certain aspects of teaching the game even at the big league level...refinement. Defense, baserunning, bunting, fundamentals, etc. The cronyism thing has helped in the case of Cooper being one of the best for a long time, but it often hurts just as much. And where the heck is Vince Coleman?

White Sox baseball 2013-2015 has returned. Hopefully on a temporary basis. Sale losing his temper and throwing "angry pitches". Mental and physical mistakes all around (compounding). Players giving up at-bats or not having a plan of what they're doing up there.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ May 24, 2016 -> 07:34 PM) It's one game. The roided up meathead ragers are the problem with this thread. Well, if you've followed the White Sox for 30+ years, you would understand. At any rate, Sale's going to be 5-7 with an ERA of nearly 4 lifetime against the Indians, so it's not a complete shocker. We knew it had to happen sometime, but the timing is obviously the worst part. And if the White Sox had an ownership group with Detroit's unlimited spending power and a bottomless farm system brimming with prospects to trade to fix some things, there wouldn't be much of any reason to be upset. But there's a difference between trust and conviction. This organization has mostly disappointed for the last decade.

QUOTE (soxforlife05 @ May 24, 2016 -> 07:31 PM) Just going off the eye test we look like the 3rd best team in the division right now. That is where this team will gravitate to in the standings until something changes. Verlander's pitching MUCH better, more like in the second half last year. They're ONLY 3 games back after tonight, barring a miracle comeback. If JD Martinez and Justin Upton going again, you've got the best offense in the division, with Castellanos hitting this year, Kinsler, MIggy and Victor Martinez...they can pile up some runs. They still have a lot of issues in that starting rotation, they're relying on a rookie in Fulmer, but if Daniel Norris can get back to 100% and Ilitch gives it one last go throwing all of his money at a team to desperately hold onto hope of another World Series appearance, anything's possible.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 24, 2016 -> 07:28 PM) The first game only felt like a loss to people on a message board. That was a good win. Explain that to those around in 2003 when the Twins very nearly came back and beat the White Sox, who had a huge lead earlier in a game...the infamous Jose Paniagua game. The Twins, to my recollection, didn't lose to the White Sox again that year and cruised through September. Despite those who don't believe in "momentum" in baseball, it exists. Even if you can't measure or quantify it.

And the Indians pull off the double steal...great job paying attention there. How in the hell did Rajai Davis go 1st to 3rd there? Just seems like the Indians want this game (and series) more than the White Sox. Hard to describe it any other way. All the more disappointing in front of the home crowd that we're not defending it very well at all this season. 13-11 isn't going to get it done.

Hope Tim Anderson's just 80-85% of the player that Lindor will be...man, he can play. He might be a better defender than a hitter, too. So far, the Indians' veteran acquisitions of Uribe/Napoli/Byrd are basically pulling them even with Latos/Rollins/Avila/Navarro/Austin Jackson.

Feels like this team is just so mentally fragile after the Rangers' game, bullpen comedy...and then again, last night's 1st game, even though the Sox won, it felt close to a loss psychologically. Revenge of the ex-Sox tonight. Uribe, Gimenez and even Paulo Orlando's 17 for his last 28. Sale swore/lost his composure for the first time after those Ramirez and Uribe at-bats. You could just feel it coming after Ramirez walked on ten pitches...then the dam burst wide open.

Jimmy, it's not that they are the ONLY ones. Honestly, if you were an opposing team's GM, who would you accept back in trade and (theoretically) project as a (potential) major league regular at this point in time? Obviously, Adams is the other big name. May and Trey M. are far from certainties at this point. We have lots of interesting "pieces" like Danish, Guerrero, Jordan Stephens, Thompson...but I'm not sure if you bundled those four pitchers together what that would get you. Clearly, non-elite veteran relievers are obtainable. But it's not going to come close to getting you a Swihart or Gary Sanchez. Hickman has a chance, IMO, as well. Courtney Hawkins has a lot of buzz around him (residual) due to his status as a first-rounder, but has never been able to stay both healthy AND productive and is looking more and more like an Avisail Garcia whose primary value will have to come from hitting homers. Engel's value has dipped as well. Hitters like Coats, Hayes and Delmonico...?

Obama arguably wasn't ready, and he was in his late 40's. Clinton was 46, but with extensive political experience by that age in terms of being governor from 1978-80 and then 82-92. I want to say he was one of the youngest, if not THE youngest, governors in history at the time. Gore also had a ton of experience and was a seasoned/established senator by that election, having run for president in 1988 as well. Kennedy probably wasn't ready, but had a great team of advisors around him (the best and the brightest). His oldest brother who was shot down in Europe during WW II was the one everyone expected and had been groomed by Joe Kennedy. John was terribly sick and had Addison's Disease. Certainly one of the most controversial and iconic leaders of the last 100 years, largely due to his youth/charisma and 11/22/63. Bush was already 54, but relatively inexperienced as the Texas governorship is mostly symbolic, and he didn't start to get his act together until his early 40's (if he ever did, lol). By and large, young and successful presidents are fairly rare. The only other one that comes to mind is Theodore Roosevelt, who eventually ended up splitting his party in two and giving the election to Woodrow Wilson. In the end, America hasn't often trusted young AND inexperienced leaders. It was a huge black mark against Rubio, and he suffered a lot of Obama comparisons as he fought for the nomination.

Anderson 1 for 1, now at .309. 6th double. Much more respectable 737 OPS, but still not MUCH power and we know about the walks. That said, we knew he would be more of a line drive-hitting doubles/triples guy with hopefully Ray Durham-esque 12-15 homer numbers at the next level. Carlos Sanchez back in the CHA line-up, hitting 2nd. Kevan Smith at .345. Not sure if it's producing any footsteps for Avila. Probably not. Hayes and Coats with almost the same OPS numbers, 888 vs. 894.

I wonder if there are any articles in the financial news about whether those media companies are satisfied with their new broadcast rights deals? We know about Houston and LA already. Ewok wrote that Angels ratings were way down despite the presence of Trout and Pujols (only one playoff appearance since 2009, which was a very brief one in 2014). The Phillies have a new deal, and they're rebuilding. The Rangers one should be okay because they got back to the playoffs and brought Darvish and Hamels into the fold and have an exciting offense. Seattle's doing much better since the beginning of last, and looks to be improving on that this season. Royals, Tigers, Indians and Twins all inside the Top 15, fwiw. Obviously smaller markets than Chicago. http://www.forbes.com/sites/maurybrown/201...2/#6bdc21e4c04e But if there’s a team that seems to not be able to gain traction of any sort, it is the Chicago White Sox. Last year they ranked last in ratings at this time, and they do so again this year. The difference is that they have dropped 42 percent to a 0.8 average rating one week leading up to the All-Star Game. The White Sox currently rank 27th out of 30 in attendance and are last in the AL Central with a 41-45 record, 11 games out of first.

The other problem with CarGo is he's giving you negative WAR at the moment. I'm not sure you want to upset the current OF dynamic and put Melky at DH, although that's probably what would happen because of CarGo's reputation. Same thing would be true of someone like Parra, who, if you look just at his offensive stats, looks like a fine contributor but he must be grading out terribly on defense to be so low in WAR. All we can do is hang in there until the middle of June and wait for the market to emerge. I suppose theoretically someone like Shuck, Hayes or Coats could be recalled if there's no other choice, but I still think Ventura won't trust an unproven rookie hitter over a veteran, even someone like Carlos Sanchez. What I would really like to know is why the Tigers and Royals were all over Jackie Bradley, Jr., after the 2014 season and we weren't even sniffing around.

I think someone needs to read the classic book, "How to Win Friends and Influence People" by Dale Carnegie.