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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 8, 2014 -> 09:51 AM) To me, there are some similarities with Paulino and Santiago in how they attack the zone. Well, they don't. They waste a lot of pitches out of the zone, walk a lot of batters, and put themselves into a lot of high stress situations. Granted they are two different pitchers, but neither is very fond of efficient pitching performances. And that's where Cooper has to step in...Jose Contreras had higher pitch counts and more hesitancy to use his fastball than any pitcher with his two plus pitches (fastball/forkball) that I'd ever seen. All he would do was nibble around the zone, he was so gunshy about getting his fastball hit, even though it was consistently at 95-97 when he came to the Sox in 2004. Then it all got straightened out for 4-5 months. The only one I remember who was worse at making every inning last forever was Jason Bere.

Rienzo, then Surkamp. No way it should be Axelrod or Doyle. Beck needs at least 3-4 more months, at a minimum. Probably more.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 8, 2014 -> 09:39 AM) Always an excuse for Santiago, and I'm sure it is all Ventura's fault and Cooper had nothing to do with it in your mind. What was his excuse his first start with the Angels? http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7900/ What's his excuse? He's getting paid a lot more than Santiago. He's supposed to be a 2 guy, not a back of the rotation guy like Hector. We would be 0-2 in his starts, by the way, not 1-1 like we are with Paulino.

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Apr 8, 2014 -> 09:05 AM) I think most of the movies in the Avengers universe have been pretty good, Iron Man 2 and Iron Man 3 were just ok. Just about everything outside of it has been either bad or just ok. People always talk about how bad Green Lantern was, but look at Hulk(2003), Spider-Man 3 and X-Men 3. Those were just as bad if not worse. Yeah, Iron Man 2 sucked. 3 was okay, but the ending was a CGI mess. Thor has been decent...but it's not like it has torn up the box office or anything. The most interesting character in those movies has always been Loki, and that's not a good thing if he's not the person the movie is named after, (unless it's Heath Ledger, the one exception). For example, why were we supposed to care that Natalie Portman's assistant was dating someone...just a silly subplot that was tacked on. And what kind of enemy was the Aether or whatever it was? The first 30 minutes of the original Thor film...setting up Asgard and that realm, that was great film-making by Branagh. As soon as he came down to Earth, it got just a bit campy. It was a fun type of camp, and harmless fun....but the storytelling and tone is nothing approaching the quality of the two Captain America films (so far). It was almost, but not quite as ridiculous as that amorphous blob villain from Green Lantern. Captain America: The First Avenger was one of the better movies but not as well marketed as it should or could have been. Incredible Hulk has been bungled ever since Ang Lee took a shot at it....whether it was Eric Bana or Norton.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Apr 8, 2014 -> 09:20 AM) http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/...p&year=2012 He didn't disappear, he just kept crapping his pants in high leverage situations, so they used him in low leverage situations. If a guy can't be trusted in important spots, are you really going to blame the manager for not putting him into the game in those situations? Well, this has been argued a million times. Someone with his repertoire and the required feel for pitches (especially the screwball change)...and the fact that he was a starter as soon as he came into own after that one season in winter ball...and never a closer...it was pretty short-sighted. In retrospect, they were probably worried about his high pitch counts and 4-5 inning starts taxing the pen. On the other hand, those elevated pitch counts were due to control/command issues and not going to disappear simply by being placed in high leverage situations. In fact, it was the opposite...he didn't feel enough confidence in his pitches because he was so accustomed to starting that he quickly found himself relying (out of the pen) on just two pitches when he didn't have the command of the screwball, and batters started to sit on the fastball, too.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Apr 8, 2014 -> 09:18 AM) Considering the initial post was comparing Harper and Myers' bats, this does not make a lot of sense. Plus, if the biggest difference you can come up with is essentially that Harper is a little faster (and he's by no means head and shoulders faster than Myers), then I'd say they're pretty similar athletes. When I read "comp," I'm thinking about the overall package of a player, who he's most reminiscent of in terms of all five tools. I didn't see it was just hitting-wise. Everyone thinks of Harper as a dynamic, game-changing presence. I've never really gotten that feeling from Myers. He has the ability to be a very very good hitter, but superstar is maybe pushing it. Granted, some of that is the team/market and the early fame/accolades/controversy Harper engendered.

And if you were Trout's family....would you honestly be thinking, we could STILL be getting $300-500 million in four years...or $144.5 million guaranteed? That's a huge risk, and there's still a very good opportunity for him to get another huge contract when he's 29 or 30, like Pujols ended up with, or Josh Hamilton. Once you start talking about contracts over $100 million, it's pretty much setting up your entire family for the next 3-5 generations. It's not like the Salvador Perez deal where he's only guaranteed $14 million or so...of course, that was based on 2 months of play in the big leagues, not 2 years.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 8, 2014 -> 09:09 AM) Signing guys like this stops the team from rushing players. It also gives a team that needs more talent, another pipeline to get talent. The odds of someone like Tommy Hanson being good again are small. But are the odds smaller than say an A ball pitcher that they get in a trade? Are they smaller than a draft pick? It is just another route to bringing talent into the system, and it is a route we as a franchise have been pretty successful at. Again, I don't get mocking the idea of signing a guy like Tommy Hanson. PTAC said it best...the odds of coming back from all those injuries, with his type of violent delivery...very miniscule. Sure, there's no risk. He's not taking time away from a legitimate starting prospect in AA or AAA...so there's really nothing to lose, either. If it doesn't work out, it is just like the case with Cleto, Boggs or Guerra.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Apr 8, 2014 -> 09:10 AM) You mean they guy they traded to get the Opening Day centerfielder? You really bring up some off the wall stuff that does not compute. Santiago was anything but forgotten or banished. For crying out loud, Ventura made him the closer as a rookie out of spring training! Yes, and then he almost completely disappeared from the team for about 6-7 weeks...even though he was still on the major league roster.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 8, 2014 -> 08:25 AM) What is the point of mocking this deal? It is literally no risk to the White Sox. They aren't even giving up a 40 man roster spot. If he sucks, you cut him, no harm. On the small chance that he succeeds at all, you have another Estaban Loiaza. Heck if they could bring in all of those guys on similar deals, I'd be for it. If even one gets back to near form, that is a huge freaking steal for literally nothing. I don't really care what they do, as long as 1) they don't force a legitimate prospect like Beck up too early, and 2) provide major league development time to someone like Axelrod. Heck, I'd almost rather have Daniel Webb start games, but that's not a real option. As noted in the thread, we don't really have a long man right now, and I know the White Sox are just trying to help him ease into a set-up role, but I hope he doesn't become the forgotten/banished guy like Hector Santiago. Someone like a DJ Carraso would really help this team right now. It's an argument that goes both ways. The likes of Webb and Cleto can mature better at the major league level with Cooper around to work with them...but it's putting him (Webb) into a bit of an odd role that he's not really accustomed to.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Apr 8, 2014 -> 07:44 AM) Not really. Myers has a solid arm, but he doesn't have the ability to play CF regularly or steal 25-35 bases, which Harper could do if he chose to change his game in that direction.

Keppinger cost a lot more than Boggs and Paulino...as Boggs was only going to make $1.1 million, and that was if he was on the major league roster. Bedard started against us for Durham. Guess he was another guy that Hahn could have considered.

Sergio Santos would be another example.

QUOTE (Bigsoxhurt35 @ Apr 8, 2014 -> 12:37 AM) Paulino wouldn't start another game. I'd use young guys f*** it. Give them the experience You're telling me you honestly want to start Chris Beck when he's not close to being ready? Then what happens when you completely destroy his confidence...it would be one thing if he was striking out 9-12 batters per game, but he's usually at 3-6. Or that you would rather see Axelrod/Doyle, etc.? As it is, we're already dealing with one youngster's growing pains in Johnson. He has only made six major league starts. Pretty soon, some will be calling for him to be sent down for more seasoning.

There's a wide spectrum of difference in terms of athleticism/explosiveness between a Harper and a Myers type.

Next week we're going to acquire Brandon Webb, too? Bring back Hudson? By the way, how is Dice-K doing these days? Anyone been following him?

Lyles should have been signed by the White Sox as a hitter, lol. Where's Carlos Zambrano these days? We have an opening at DH for 2015. For all the Paulino bashing, I think every team in baseball would take a 5th starter with a 4.15 ERA.

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 7, 2014 -> 07:50 PM) KC showed the blue print for how teams will attack Abreu. Tons of fastballs inside for him until he can show he can handle it. That's pretty much the case with any big/rangy hitter. Don't let them get their arms extended. You have to either turn on it and pull your hands in or have Puig power to the opposite field. Then you can start picking on the breaking stuff.

Would never have predicted that Gillaspie, Ramirez and Flowers would be our three most dangerous hitters the first week. Abreu started off white hot and needs to get it going again, same with DeAza and Eaton. Garcia's just lost. At least Semien looks better and better, more comfortable.

And you're not going to win if you don't score at Coors Field, anyway.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Apr 7, 2014 -> 07:36 PM) The Colorado feed on the baseball package refers to Paulino's pitches as "batting practice fastballs". If 94-95 is BP speed. Probably, he means the location and movement aren't good, because that's well above average velocity for a starter.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Apr 7, 2014 -> 07:35 PM) This board loved Paulino....for reasons unknown to anyone. Well, if Johnson has another bad start, everyone will asking for him to be sent down or traded, lol. Especially if he's only at 88-91 MPH. No wonder Daniel Hudson didn't last long. At least back then, there were realistic playoff aspirations. Do we really want more Dylan Axelrod or Terry Doyle?

If we're looking for Hanson to be better than Paulino, we might as well bring back Mulder for 2015.

Not the best time for a hanging slider. At 95 with the fastball.

Is there any chance Jackson could be persuaded to go back to catching or he's 100% OF/DH/1B material right now? Has anyone actually seen him play? How athletic is he, in terms of playing the outfield? Comps? Are we talking Brandon Inge?