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PLEASE LOOK AT JONES' splits, lefty vs. righty. Sometimes I think Ventura just wants to make this last month interesting on purpose. Lucky that ball didn't go out or Jones would actually be on the hook for a possible loss.

Back to mid-game CORPSEBALL again. There's a big surprise. Don't step on the gas and crush their throats, but let them back into the game and hope the Sox players and bullpen crumble psychologically.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Sep 20, 2012 -> 08:42 PM) Like Stoney said, it's all in his head. He was filthy until two runners got on . You could see it coming. Had that 2-2 count and it ended up in a walk...bad thoughts started to enter his thinking process. So fragile. He, Gavin and Phil Humber belong together on the same team.

And that's where the 2-3 blown runs are going to cause the Sox a lot of pain.

Great play by Beckham, against a tough hitter for us to retire. Not sure what Dunn was chasing after... He looked completely lost.

90 pitches for Guthrie. Still waiting for the big crooked number against Francisco. Or has he figured out things again and he will end up being our #2 or #3 starter in the playoffs? If he's ON, he's better than Peavy, because his stuff is more electric. But he's a LOT more likely to blow up and give up 5-6-7 runs in a game than Jake, who will usually give you 5-6-7 IP and 2-3-4 earned runs these last couple of months.

QUOTE (RZZZA @ Sep 20, 2012 -> 08:16 PM) lol, weren't you JUST giving me a hard time for suggesting that we bench a player for 1 game to send a message? Now you're singing my tune. The Wise and Ramirez baserunning errors, those are mental. Viciedo taking his eye off the ball in an unfamiliar stadium as he was close to running into the wall/scoreboard, that's a physical error.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 20, 2012 -> 08:16 PM) Stop suggesting Olmedo play. Benching Alexei to send a message already cost the Sox one game this year. I'm only 50% joking. But it sucks we don't have a competent back-up infielder that won't hurt the team in these situations...where a clear message needs to be sent to a player to wake up. If we win the game, it's not going to matter. However, how are the players ever going to learn...they'll just end up doing the same thing in the playoffs.

QUOTE (RZZZA @ Sep 20, 2012 -> 08:14 PM) Bench him? But he's hitting well with RISP He was...until recently. Seriously, play Beckham at SS for one game, just to make a point to Ramirez. Maybe against Jered Weaver Sunday, where it wouldn't matter if he was in the line-up or not.

WHERE THE F--- WOULD ALEXEI POSSIBLY BE GOING THERE? THAT'S JUST AS BAD AS WISE'S PLAY...except for the fact it wasn't a one run deficit or tie game there.

seriously, play Olmedo tomorrow...Alexei doesn't deserve to be starting if he can't get his head out of his --- with only two weeks left to go in the season, and every game critical/crucial just zero excuse for that, none...

you've got to BLEEPIN me! ramirez deserves to be benched, if we're going to do the same to Viciedo....that, and the bases loaded, one out situation yesterday. that's 2-3-4 runs that we've just wasted...this game should be over now, essentially of course...we'll let KC hang around, it fits the pattern all season long

Unfortunately, double play ball still in order. You'd think opposing pitchers would deliberately load the bases and see how the White Sox could mess it up.

Here we go again. Taking the bat out of DeAza's hands, when he's just not good at sacrifice bunting...only bunting for a hit.

Here we go again. Taking the bat out of DeAza's hands, when he's just not good at sacrifice bunting...only bunting for a hit.

QUOTE (Jake @ Sep 20, 2012 -> 07:59 PM) re: Rios play If you see it from another angle, Rios saw that Guthrie was guarding the plate with his glove right near the ground so he was trying to not slide right into the tag. He actually dodged the initial tag attempt but barely missed the plate on that same stride. Also, AJ had terrible form blocking that "wild pitch" and that's why it got away. He's been lazy to move his body and get down and block pitches for years...always trying to snag them with the glove or backhand a ball he should be getting in front of. This aspect of his game, and throwing out opposing baserunners...it has been his biggest downside since 2005.

No fastballs to Frenchie. Yay. Well, if one thing's for certain, it's that when we've made bone-headed baserunning plays, we've been able to play over them, like the Wise one at 3B against the Tigers.

So there was a wild pitch/passed ball and the ball didn't get away far enough? Why wasn't the on deck hitter or the guy in the batter's box telling RIOS to get down, that it was going to be a close play?

What just happened to Rios? Out at home on a sac fly scoring attempt? How many baserunners have we lost to KC outfielders this year?

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Sep 20, 2012 -> 05:17 PM) I dont think anyone cares about that. at all. It probably would have helped Brooks Boyer and our marketing department this past offseason had they announced BOTH Hahn and Ventura as their all-new management team. At this point, coming off this season, it doesn't make so much of a difference, as those who believe KW is still essentially in charge will continue to believe so...and those who think Williams got pushed out of the GM job and Hahn is really pulling the strings will read everything that happens from now on as "Hahn influenced" moves. There will be a lot of tea leaf readings trying to interpret and spin things in different directions depending upon one's bias about those two.

They could always get Miami to help us buy back Buehrle with a subsidy and go to five lefties, just to shut Greg up, lol. Then there's the Fathom option, Veal to the rotation. Actually, if Thornton could throw his two pitches consistently, I wouldn't mind giving him a shot as a starter, again, as that's what he wanted to do when we first brought him over for Borchard way back when, in 2006. Axelrod, Rienzo, Castro, Molina and the usual list of suspects will figure in, but you'd have to believe they will either exercise the Floyd option to give them some more flexibility, bring back Liriano (or Peavy), both are 25% possibilities, or go after a second tier FA pitcher like an Anibal Sanchez that Cooper and the scouting staff have identified some positive upside with. I was pulling for them to add Guthrie as another arm, and that would have saved us a ton of losses and given us the division single-handedly, but there's no way the White Sox (or probably the Royals as well) should overpay him now based on 2 months of season, when the Royals were already eliminated.

No way in hades Castro or Molina are closing to being 3 starters, you can forget that one happening. Santiago has more talent than either one of those guys. What will be interesting is the "tea leaves reading" of all the moves, trying to attribute our offseason to KW or Hahn. For example, will certain posters be thrilled KW is "gone" or will they be even more upset he got a promotion and is perceived to be running the team still? Does anyone believe this will have ANY impact at all on season ticket sales or the perception of the fans, playoffs or not? Will we now not credit KW with getting any more than the 2005 and 2008 teams to the playoffs, officially?

Konerko and Viciedo both sitting. We'll see if it works. Had to change something around, and the speed at the top of the line-up could shake up Guthrie if they can get on base and not get gunned down on brain cramp moves.

Not only did they put some wear and tear on Smyly before Sunday...they shook his confidence completely. Go Twins! 11 pitches, just a few strikes. "It has struggled a little bit here today." Rod Allen, completely understating how bad the Tigers' pen has been in this game.

Huge walk by Smyly. Feeling the September pressure a bit?