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QUOTE (scenario @ Jul 26, 2009 -> 09:49 PM) I wouldn't be shocked if that was the last game Richard ever pitches for the Sox. KW's ego almost DEMANDS he makes a splash every year at this time. I just worry that getting Halladay might end up being a disaster for this franchise....if we could do it without giving up Beckham/Ramirez/Flowers/Danks/Viciedo, though...I might be okay with it. Haren would be a much better acquisition for the long-term competitive stability of this team.

We need to give Quentin time to get his hitting stroke bat. Between the wrist injury and now this, he likely won't be "good/okay/fine" until spring training next year. Trading him would be insane now...at his lowest possible value? And no team wants to risk giving up talent with the injury history he's had.

where did anyone read that Colon would start against the Twins on WED? the twins' website has jose contreras listed as the starter? they are holding Jose for the first game of the Yankees series? if they don't go with Clayton and use Colon, it will be worse than skipping Buehrle for Cotts at Yankee Stadium in 2003

We really are letting Porcello have it easy now. Wish Alexei's ball would have gone out, that would have put him on the ropes for sure. This kind of game where we stop scoring runs early and let the opponent creep back into it has been a scary likelihood recently with our sagging bullpen.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 26, 2009 -> 07:20 PM) That was an excellent job by Richard and Pods to limit the damage. Do you think Clayton Richard will still be in the starting rotation for the Chicago White Sox in late July, 2010?

Porcello with only 1 or 2 innings left. 82 pitches heading into the top of the 5th.

Pods and Wise have played some CF defense this year in DET. Limiting the damage to just one run the way this inning was looking would be a great accomplishment.

Monday John Danks versus Glen Perkins. The tale of two talented lefties coming off injury problems, Danks with the blister/circulatory issue and Perkins with more troubling shoulder tendinitis and a visit to Dr. Lewis Yocum. We all know about John's problems pitching in the Metrodome. Tuesday Buehrle versus Baker Baker beat the White Sox his last start against us, but he's got a career 6.88 ERA against the Sox. Coming off perfect game, what will happen? Wednesday Bartolo Colon versus Liriano Liriano 0-3 with an 8.00 ERA career against the White Sox, 4-10 with a 5.56 ERA on the season and struggling mightily. If the White Sox were to lose the first two, we should definitely go with Contreras in this game. I can't believe Colon is in the rotation over Torres and Richard...or maybe we will start Richard SAT at home agains the Yankees? Thankfully, we don't see Blackburn. Swarzak has taken the place of Slowey.

Richard with a fairly economical (for him) 45 pitches through 3 IP. 7 IP would be great....although we have to keep in mind his pitch count and arm stress his last time out there.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 26, 2009 -> 06:53 PM) This might be 1 of 2 or 3 OF's in the big leagues that are large enough that a ball could bounce away from an OF and PK would have a legit shot at a triple. PETCO, Safeco, SF Giants' stadium? Batters are hitting .293 now against Porcello this season, .283 against Richard. ERA is also very close now, 4.84 for Clayton, 4.74 for Porcello.

QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Jul 26, 2009 -> 06:46 PM) While out of town the last four days all I had to say to the people I was with was that the pen is down but the hitting needs to be better. This team needs to score to win. 4 runs are better than the Toronto Texas days but they need to but a hurt on a team and keep it up for all 9 innings. Let's keep the line rolling. Losing this game would be the equivalent of the Cubs' loss from a 5-1 lead and the Twins' blown 10 run lead to the collective psyche of the organization. We've already lost at least two heartbreakers to the Tigers this season, and we really SHOULD have won the 2nd game of the DH.

Okay, Richard, please don't give up a 3 run bomb to the BA/Rowand/Crede of DET fans' hearts, Brandon Inge. I really hate that guy. But, despite his 21 homers, Gordon Beckham has an OPS almost 30 points higher than Inge. Correct that, 840 (Inge) to 813 (Beckham)...I was looking at Brandon's career line, not this season.

Ankiel, Blalock, Huff and Matsui would probably be the four best options, along with Dunn. Of course, there's been a lot of fascination with Abreu over the years, and Vladimir Guerrero undoubtedly will be an interesting decision for the Angels...and then there's Figgins. Tempting to go after Vladdy, we always get superstars about 3-5 years too late in their careers (Griffey, R. Alomar, Thome, etc.) I guess I would take a Figgins/Dunn offseason, although Figgins/Dunn/Crisp would also make me happy.

QUOTE (beckham15 @ Jul 26, 2009 -> 06:37 PM) yeah but i still think his stats will be out Gordo's to this point if the season ended today Porcello's at 4.8 now. No way they give a ROY award to a pitcher with a 5+ ERA.

QUOTE (beckham15 @ Jul 26, 2009 -> 06:35 PM) ehhh...i still think porcello has more of a chance to win ROY than Beckham right now Andrus, Romero and Getz also figure into the discussion...although Gordon has already passed Chris in the eyes of many, in terms of momentum. Perhaps Wieters could get really hot too, but players on contending teams usually have an advantage (Berroa/Matsui vote notwithstanding).

2 iron laser into the LF bullpen area that barely cleared the inner wall...way to go Gordo, let's bury these guys and have an ESPN White Sox "love fest" tonight instead of being on pins and needles in the late innings wondering how/when/if we'll blow the lead.

If Porcello is shut down (19 runs given up in his last 3+ outings) for awhile, then they have Zach Miner, Robertson (rehabbing), Willis (well, that's not TOO likely) and Bonderman (rehabbing) as the back of their rotation, along with the rookie pitcher French. Beckham and Getz staying at Grosse Point home of the Getz Family this weekend, FWIW.

Richard has a 1.38 ERA in the first inning. We know he's USUALLY good early. It's the bullpen that scares you...a 10-1 victory would be a godsend. We've blown at least 3-4 games in our last two series (Wise out at home, lack of hitting with RISP, Jenks and Linebrink meltdowns, etc.) You'd have to think Richard coming back to the land of Maize and Blue (and Getz, too) would really charge them up for tonight's game on a national stage, especially after the embarassment of the first 3 games.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 26, 2009 -> 06:58 PM) Brandon Allen wont be a middle of the order hitter. How can you be so sure about that? Beckham is projected by everyone to be a #3 hitter, and I would be hard pressed to believe he will ever get much above 850 for an OPS. The guy is not Chase Utley or Hector Reborn (reference to Gladiator/Troy). I know JPN and some of the minor league people were really upset about his loss, and also his recent return to form for the DBacks' AAA affiliate.

If we're going to make this move for Haren or Halladay or "mystery pitcher" (like Garland), then we need to do it ASAP before we go into the next week of games... Definitely okay with trying someone like Pena instead of Dotel and using that money elsewhere. The only (and obvious) problem with that is the current level of shakiness with Linebrink and Jenks.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jul 26, 2009 -> 06:34 PM) They're in desperate need of a left-handed middle-of-the-order hitter going forward and there aren't a lot of them out there. If they trade for him on the last year of his deal they have exclusive negotiating rights with him for the entire year and maybe in this economy he'd accept a 3y/$30M offer. Then why did we trade Brandon Allen? That makes no sense at all....unless KW thought he could get a better young LH 1B/DH type than Brandon for Dotel. Which would have been a pretty risky assumption to make on KW's part. There aren't many LH 1B available? Oft-injured Nick Johnson? Left fielders Garret Anderson (38) Marlon Anderson (36) Jason Bay (31) Emil Brown (35) Carl Crawford (28) - $10MM club option with a $1.25MM buyout Johnny Damon (36) David Dellucci (36) Cliff Floyd (37) Matt Holliday (30) Jacque Jones (35) Gabe Kapler (34) Greg Norton (37) Wily Mo Pena (28) Manny Ramirez (38) - $20MM player option Dave Roberts (38) Fernando Tatis (35) Center fielders Rick Ankiel (30) Rocco Baldelli (28) Marlon Byrd (32) Mike Cameron (37) Endy Chavez (32) Coco Crisp (30) - $8MM club option with a $500K buyout Darin Erstad (36) Ryan Freel (34) Jerry Hairston Jr. (34) Reed Johnson (33) Andruw Jones (33) Gabe Kapler (34) Mark Kotsay (34) Corey Patterson (30) Scott Podsednik (34) Right fielders Bobby Abreu (36) Jermaine Dye (36) - $12MM mutual option with a $1MM buyout Brian Giles (39) Vladimir Guerrero (34) Eric Hinske (32) Geoff Jenkins (35) - $7.5MM mutual option with a $1.25MM buyout Gabe Kapler (34) Austin Kearns (30) - $10MM club option with a $1MM buyout Jason Michaels (34) Xavier Nady (31) Magglio Ordonez (36) - $15MM club/vesting option with a $3MM buyout Randy Winn (36) Designated hitters Hank Blalock (29) Jason Giambi (39) - $6.5MM club option with a $1.25MM buyout Ken Griffey Jr. (40) Aubrey Huff (33) Hideki Matsui (36) Gary Sheffield (41) Matt Stairs (42) Mike Sweeney (36) Jim Thome (39)

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 26, 2009 -> 04:54 PM) Didn't he sign a two year deal? Kenny will try his best to sign Chone Figgins. That's been his guy. He could be had for 3-4 years and $8-9 million per year. You put Figgins at either 3B or 2B and you position Beckham where ever Figgins isn't playing. Ramirez should stay at SS. I don't want him near the OF. He could make Alfonso Soriano-like mistakes out there. A mistake by a SS usually results with a man on first. A mistake in the outfield usually results with a man on second or third. I'd love Matt Holliday, but he's a Boras client. If we fail to bring in good DH or corner OF, re-sign Dye. I think there's an option (at the very least) on Hudson's deal. So you really believe Ramirez would be worse out there in CF than Scotty Pods? Really? And I'm not sure about having less of an affect on the game at SS...what is the ratio of Total Chances for a SS versus a CF? Any infield with Beckham, Ramirez and Figgins is pretty scary defensively, to say the least. Interesting decisions about what happens with Pods and Getz in many future White Sox scenarios for 2010. As for those advocating Dunn, why would we dream of paying him almost the same as Thome in this market?

QUOTE (jenks45monster @ Jul 24, 2009 -> 06:33 PM) In case you haven't noticed, it's taking a lot to get rent-a-players. Just look at what the Indians got last year for Sabathia and what the A's just got for Holliday. Matt LaPorta, Zach Jackson, Rob Bryson, and Michael Brantley for Sabathia. Brett Wallace, Clayton Mortensen, Shane Peterson for Holliday. Am I saying Dotel's on the same level as Sabathia or Holliday? No. Am I saying we should expect one of those types of mega-packages for Dotel? No. Lambo is a very good prospect, not an elite one. And that's just one prospect. Dotel is a type A FA and would net two draft picks if we or a team he was traded to offered him arbitration. All that said, he certainly has good value on the trade market. Dotel should be able to net Lambo or a Lambo type of player straight up, especially if a team is desperate for relief help. Like the White Sox?

Martinez would certainly play 1B and replace Loney. Really, really gusty move, though, to give up Billingsley and definitely Kershaw.

Nix is the perfect fit as a utility guy. Fields either needs to be playing 3B everyday in Chicago or Charlotte OR traded for the highest possible return.