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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 30, 2012 -> 09:05 PM) Trading prospects, bad. Trading for prospects, bad. And 2K5 is right on queue with his try to be funny, add nothing to the discussion one liners.

QUOTE (iamshack @ May 30, 2012 -> 09:06 PM) But Holmberg is just a prospect! Will you kill yourself and put it on youtube if he doesn't end up contributing anything to the DBacks? Of course not, I don't care about the Dbacks organization.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ May 30, 2012 -> 08:57 PM) I have been saying this for years, and maybe people are starting to realize it.... The Nick Swisher trade is the worst deal Kenny has ever made. Im going to have to say Hudson, Holmberg, and Edwin Jackson for Zach Stewart pretty much is the worst cumulative deal KW has ever done.

QUOTE (iamshack @ May 30, 2012 -> 08:49 PM) No it isn't...it means at least our GM tried to improve our ballclub with his valuable assets rather than not know which assets he had that were valuable... One could argue that, but then again Gio has been a pretty damn good pitcher now for a while and KW traded him twice. So you could say he doesnt know what assets he has that are valuable. EDIT: Value to your organization, not trade value obviously

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 30, 2012 -> 08:46 PM) How can you have any idea what Hernandez and Castro will do for us? The Padres have a $7 million dollar they no longer need, soaking up a huge amount of payroll. Maybe Quentin will get on a hot streak and they'll get lucky to get a better return than what we got...but, remember, there's no Dayan Viciedo developing if Quentin's still here, or Quentin's coming back and Viciedo's being benched/blocked again. We gave Jackson away for free to save money from Teahen's deal and we have a serviceable reliever. Not a net win, but maybe those savings allowed us to hold onto Floyd, Thornton and Crain for all we know, instead of having to deal them, too. And where would we be right now with Sergio Santos on our team? Clearly better than with Addison Reed as the closer? They dealt Santos for a reason, and part of that reason is DL'ed. Yawn. Those "prospects" will never amount to anything for us. Ill kill myself and post it on youtube if any of them make any great contributions to this franchise. You don't give away a front of the rotation starter to "save money" on a stupid deal YOU did in the first place. All we have to show for Daniel Hudson and Edwin Jackson is Zach Stewart, a mediocre reliever. Yowza.

QUOTE (iamshack @ May 30, 2012 -> 08:42 PM) It seems better to me to at least know what players are valued by other organizations and trade them than letting them walk away for nothing. I realize he has made some bad trades in recent years and there is no way around that. But the Carlos Quentin trade and the Sergio Santos trades? How can you say those are terrible? CQ and SS have hardly even played for the teams he traded them to! And we haven't seen the prospects yet because they are still developing. Argue about KW blowing the Hudson deal and the EJ trade and I can't really defend those anymore...they were poor trades. But then you've got to give him credit for a lot of the moves that have worked out as well... I do give him credit, thats why I said he has done a good job getting some of those reclamation projects that no one wants. My main point was, we didnt just cut Gio Gonzalez and let him walk off for nothing. Humber and De Aza were. Comparing us sighing over not having Gio is not the same as a Marlins fan saying De Aza should be their leadoff guy right now.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 30, 2012 -> 08:33 PM) But it's the same for every team...imagine how good the Marlins could be had they kept Cabrera? Where are Cameron Maybin and Andrew Miller now? Not in Miami. Or the Johan Santana deal. He was the best LH starter of his generation, and none of the players acquired are with the Twins right now. One of them, Humber, is playing for one of their biggest rivals. That's just the nature of baseball. Had we not been in the pennant race in the middle of 2010, we could have been a lot more patient with both Hudson and Sale (he could have been developing as a starter instead of relieving in the heat of a pennant race). All we can do is say that he put together a better team, spent $25 million less than last year to do, and that's all that matters. In the end, the coaching staff's changes and the steadying presence of Ventura might end up being the most important move of all...as you saw in AZ last year with the DBacks. Now youre just naming situations where said clubs couldnt afford those players and had no choice. Cmon caulfield.

QUOTE (iamshack @ May 30, 2012 -> 08:29 PM) So you're arguing that it's better to let them walk away for nothing than to actually trade them? I'm scratching my head here... cmon man, did you really miss the point? Hes saying not to worry about Gio because the Royals arent worrying about Humber, or the Marlins arent worrying about De Aza. Neither of them showed anything with those teams and were let go. We take legit prospects (Young, Hudson, Gonzalez) and trade them away in stupid deals that end up being worthless. Im so sick of KW and his Stanford educated ego trip. Hes constantly made poor decisions in trading, for YEARS. Yeah he can get some projects and turn them into decent lighting, but god damn when are we going to come out of a trade on the EVEN end. Edwin Jackson trade, terrible. Carlos Quentin trade, terrible. Sergio Santos trade, terrible. Daniel Hudson trade, terrible since we just gave Edwin Jackson away for free anyway. you get the point, but then again I know you love KW.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 30, 2012 -> 08:03 PM) Yeah, Gio and Hudson both hurt. But, if we can keep on replacing them with similar production out of unheralded guys like Humber or Quintana, it doesn't really matter. (Or Jenks and Santos in the bullpen, for another example). There's no GM in baseball who hasn't made his share of moves which later look bone-headed. Do you think the Marlins' fans are all going crazy because DeAza has played well for us? Royals'/Twins' fans are upset about losing Humber? Or look at the money the Yankees invest in their starting pitching...even to the point of bringing back veteran Andy Pettite. Are they up in arms they "lost" Quintana or that we seemingly stole him right out from under their noses, or still upset we not only took Contreras, we also got a subsidy back to pay for his salary? And, of course, there's no way to empirically prove they both would have pitched as well in Chicago, or at USCF. Maybe Gio needed the confidence of pitching with a huge park and foul territory to become the pitcher he is...in Chicago, his control issues early in his career and his penchant for surrendering long balls/fly balls might have derailed his career in its early infancy. If anything, the success of Hudson, Gio, Brandon McCarthy or Clayton Richard makes our farm system's productivity look better and makes other teams more willing to trade with us. All you did was name players that those teams let walk away from them, our numbskull GM TRADES these players away for nothing in return. We really are a poorly run organization that lucked into a World Series in 05 which has kept this awful GM in office ever since.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ May 28, 2012 -> 10:00 AM) Ha! I definitely see the family resemblance, I will look for him now. I wouldn't wish TNA on him though, Hogan will just job him out. Hopefully WWE takes notice and he can move on to the minors(OVW or FCW?) Well you gotta start somewhere, plus he already kind of has a foot in the door with WWE since he has worked with them before so who knows.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ May 28, 2012 -> 09:41 AM) That is very cool. Does he have any intentions on going long term and trying to make it to the bigtime? Yeah that is the goal. He has been on Raw a few times, not as a wrestler but as security and an EMT. He got to come down to the ring and escort Vicki Guerrero out one time, and then he was an EMT when Nash beat up HHH when he was strapped to the stretcher. This is him in the middle. Creepin on the Divas

My brother has a tryout for TNA on June 6th Would be pretty sweet if he got signed.

Does anyone else feel sick to their stomach when you see Gio Gonzalez and then remember we had him TWICE.. ugh

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 27, 2012 -> 01:12 PM) I hate this one...I always used to tip on a delivery, then everyone instituted "Delivery fees". Now I feel guilty if I don't tip, but I also feel like I'm already playing the **** tip because of the mandatory delivery fee. I use to deliver for Dominos and that delivery fee IS bulls***.. The drivers do NOT get that delivery fee.. down here, the delivery fee was 1.50.. we got 90 cents a delivery to cover "gas". The delivery fee is just an extra way for them to make profits and in no way is given to the drivers as a tip. It always sucked when people thought the delivery fee was the tip, its not.

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ May 26, 2012 -> 11:59 AM) In theory this could be good, but I'm still a guy without a huge rack. They aren't looking for me. And there's no way at a crowded bar they can memorize who each person is and how many times they've tipped, not to mention bars that have multiple bartenders. If you aren't going to give me a attention in a reasonable amount of time for me to buy something from your bar, then I'll find somewhere else, and you just cost your place some business. Agreed. Either way, I haven't run into too many situations where I was waiting forever to get service. Another thing that I just shake my head at is the tip jar at the register at Subway. They don't do anything different from employees at McDonalds, Wendys, Burger King.. you wouldn't tip them.

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 25, 2012 -> 10:22 PM) I watched tonight's game on mlb and listened to Hawk/Stoney. Truthfully they were a pleasure to listen to. Hawk does a great job in expressing excitement and he says interesting s***. I feel sorry for those of you who can't appreciate the team of Hawk/Stoney. Seriously. I agree, if you're watching the game just mute him. You don't need play by play for something you're watching unless you have comprehension issues.

Does anyone else think its ridiculous to tip a bartender? Say what you will about me on this, but I never tip bartenders. I think its ridiculous that I buy a $2.00 beer and then have to tip you $1 or more because you reached down and opened it up. Thats not deserving of a tip, IMO. A waitress on the other hand, she actually has to go get it and bring it to me. That, I have no problem throwing $2-3 bucks for. However, if you are literally standing at the cooler and just hand me a beer I don't think I need to give you anything extra for that. There are enough drunk people in the place that will leave way more of a tip to make up for it anyway.

really because I read that he sold his injuries at the fight

Im prolly the only person who feels this way, but I am not as excited about this movie as I was for the previous two. I think Bane looks stupid, and I think thats what is really hurting my excitement. Im still gonna see it obviously, but I am just feelin blah about it so far.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ May 1, 2012 -> 12:15 PM) I like 6 games against the Cubs, I could care less to see Houston come in twice a yr and the 10,000 a night for those games agree with me! Except living in Houston I care greatly getting to see the Sox come HERE twice a year.

boy we are striking out a lot

ugh why the hell is Rios batting 5th

atta boy kong

Geez Lilli, just staring at 2 balls right down the middle..

No one is ever in this chatroom. Its been like that for a while. Everytime I go in, Ralph Wiggum is the only one in there and hes never doing anything..