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QUOTE(rangercal @ Sep 18, 2005 -> 03:36 PM) Funny, all the posters with choking avis aren't taking place in the game winning thread yet. It's our job to say "told ya so" in these threads. If we lose, then that responsibility falls to them.

QUOTE(Allsox @ Sep 18, 2005 -> 03:33 PM) And Ozzie, it's pretty simple now who you give the ball to in Gm 4 the ALDS as I give you Jose Contreras If Buehrle doesn't start pitching like he should vs. the Tribe, I am almost tempted to throw Jose ahead of him. That won't happen but MB still needs to lay off some of the getting swept talk.

Being 3.5 up instead of 2.5 up is HUGE mentally for the Sox this series. Especially winning those two close games late.

QUOTE(3E8 @ Sep 18, 2005 -> 03:30 PM) Did he do the fist pump? I was disappointed, he didn't do the full fist pump like two days ago. WHITE SOX f***ING WINNER.

f*** YES!!!!!!!!

QUOTE(3E8 @ Sep 18, 2005 -> 01:21 PM) The SNES sold 49 million units worldwide. The N64 33 million worldwide. That considering one more direct competitor was added to the market and the N64 was a year late, I still don't consider that a very poor showing. I'd reserve that for something like the Saturn or the Virtual Boy. By Nintendo's standards it was. Plus they were stupid enough to build a cartridge based system which drove up unit costs of all the games. They believed they could bully vendors into waiting for their system to come out and use their inferior cartridge technology. Things have really never been the same for Nintendo since then. They made a similar mistake with Gamecube by using the propietary "contact lens" disc technology which there was little reason for as well. The PSP is better in terms of what exactly? We're talking about the handheld market here where more features and better graphics do not always equate to the more successful product. Remember how the original Game Boy was monochrome and people still bought it over the Game Gear/Lynx/Insert color handheld system here. People don't want to pay that much for a handheld system and who really wants to watch movies on a handheld screen. OTOH, people will pay that kind of price for a console and some do actually watch movies on them. I don't really have more to say on the issue except that I will definitely watch the sales of this generation of consoles closely. It will be very interesting to see if Nintendo can succeed with such a radical approach and their late release date. I just don't see it happening, especially in terms of US market share.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Sep 18, 2005 -> 01:48 PM) The indians had a terrible offense earlier this year. It was actually worse than ours. Then they fired Eddy Murray their hitting coach. The rest I guess is history... The Indians had a good offense last year while Eddie was still the coach too. My solution: Fire the players.

It really sucks that we have come down to rooting for Kansas City to beat Cleveland. God damn it Sox if you blow this, I think a part of me might die.

QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Sep 18, 2005 -> 01:07 PM) I can't help but get excited after watching the video of it in action. http://media.cube.ign.com/articles/651/651334/vids_1.html I didn't download it but I think that's the same promo clip I saw on G4. How many in-game clips were shown in that video? You do realize someone is going to have to develop the games before people can do all those cool things. Sure it's innovative and cool. But the whole gist of what I'm saying is that Nintendo's recent console trend is towards continually repositioning themselves in a smaller segment of the market to develop these new frenetic games. For some reason, that seems to have corresponded with an increase in the rabid defensiveness of its fans.

QUOTE(3E8 @ Sep 18, 2005 -> 01:00 PM) What are you talking about? There were less N64 units sold than the PS1, but not enough that you could call it a "poor showing". Also, GC have outsold the XBox worldwide. Over 20 million units of GC in all to be specific. Market share, especially in the US has been decreasing from N64 through GameCube. To not acknowledge N64 had a poor showing is blind fanboy optimism. They went from the success of SNES to N64 and allowed their powerhouse market share to be stolen from them by a new entry in the PS1. It was by all of Nintendo's standards, a very poor showing.

QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Sep 18, 2005 -> 12:26 PM) You quoted an article on March 4th..... But of course, since than, Nintendo has had THQ, EA, Square-Enix, Sega, Activision, UbiSoft, Majesco, and a couple more already pledge support. Considering right there you have the biggest games in deveoping, I don't think 3rd party support is going to be much of a problem. Also, The DS has absolutly blown out the PSP in terms of sales. By now it has atleast doubled up and probaly will triple up on it soon. Sony already had to cut back by 33% on what they planned to sell. If this is any indication, The Rev will find the new audience the Big N is looking for and be a huge success, just like the DS currently is. Pledged support? You do realize that doesn't mean anything I hope. All those developers have said is they want to support gamers on all platforms, and that's just the standard industry smoke screen. Until titles are announced, that don't mean diddly. When did EA and Activision (the two biggest publishers) pledge support by the way? Activision might have said something like they would like to make cross-platform games or that the Revolution controller looks innovative but I see nothing close to a pledge. Square Enix will release FF: Crystal Chronicles on Revolution. Final Fantasy is the only franchise of theirs popular enough to draw gamers to buy a console. I have no argument on the DS being successful. Since when has handheld support meant success for Nintendo's console in the past? Gameboy Advance and Advance SP were also huge successes. I don't see how the success of the DS is an indication of anything regarding the Revolution.

QUOTE(Whitesoxfan56 @ Sep 18, 2005 -> 11:55 AM) not trying to be a dick, but there magic number is 12 Well Jugg's original post said 11, I think that's because we were thinking that if the Sox and Tribe tie and the Yankees finish behind us, we would win the division anyways.

QUOTE(whitesoxgt @ Sep 17, 2005 -> 06:53 PM) Hes not worthy enough to be called "the 3rd basemen of the future" if he really was why do u think they drafted a 3rd basemen in the first round! Who calls him that? Last I checked, he's our "3rd baseman of the present."

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Sep 16, 2005 -> 12:11 PM) Do we know for a fact that he isn't? God I hope he isn't. Cuz if he is, it's not working and I'm out of ideas.

After considering all this, Dubya probably would have drowned before I made up my mind.

Well I thought they were funny, maybe now is just not a good time. I feel like Soxtalk is a girlfriend that I'm trying to cheer up but there's nothing that I can do.

QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Sep 17, 2005 -> 07:50 PM) I would presume that you'd have to be a nerd to even encounter it at numerous internet destinations in the first place. Hard for me to argue with that. I'm gonna go cry myself to sleep now.

I know this is a bit off topic and hopefully none of us hate El Duque as a person, but this guy has really been a class act this year. It's easy for me to see why Yankee fans really fell in love with this guy. He leaves everything out on the field and takes every single hit against him as a personal insult. Even after laying an egg in a crucial game vs. Minnesota, he still conducts himself with class and delivers the cold hard truth to the press that he just has no confidence in himself right now. I don't know if many others could do the same, it takes a big man to admit to your shortcomings like that. As for the Sox, I hope Hawk is praying to the baseball gods right now: "MERCY!"

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Sep 17, 2005 -> 07:39 PM) Besides, KW will probably trade for Everett mid-season anyway. You can put it on the board.

Please don't feed the trolls. Thanks, Soxtalk Staff

I thought the San Diego chicken worked baseball and football? Did he but just not qualify since he wasn't an official mascot of either team?

More chances to see the Sox lose on national TV. Sorry I had to, it was there for the taking.

Nerds don't speak 1337. They might be able to read it just due to encountering it so much on the Internet but it's not something they spend their time on. At least in my sense of the word nerd.

QUOTE(3E8 @ Sep 17, 2005 -> 05:26 PM) I think the article helps prove my point that first party is more important than third party. Nintendo is prepared to enter the market with a next-generation console relying largely on first party games. Whether or not this strategy will be successful, I guess remains to be seen. It is pretty ironic how you are aguing against Nintendo with a handle and signature that includes Donkey Kong. You should know Nintendo can shell out a couple games based on that character alone. You've also added Metroid to your list of only worthwhile games in addition to Mario Revolution and Zelda Revolution. There will be multiple great Mario spin-offs. And I assume there's still Smash Bros, Animal Crossing, Pikmin, Wave Race, F-Zero, StarFox, etc. A couple of games yes. Just because I don't think the Revolution will succeed doesn't mean I hate Nintendo. I liked Donkey Kong games when I was in 6th grade maybe, but honestly they are too childish for me now and have been probably since high school. The last Donkey Kong game I purchased was Donkey Kong Country. In many ways, my name and signature are very much an homage to the Nintendo that was such a big part of my youth. Those titles alone did not carry the Super Nintendo as it also had fantastic third party support. Look at the Gamecube now. It has a loyal sometimes rabid following due to its successful first party titles but still lags consistently in sales and market share. What's different now is that Nintendo is gradually conceding itself to reside in the niche (for lack of a better word) "kiddie" video game market. They are successful in that area, but it is still a niche compared to the broader video gaming market for teens and adults that Nintendo is becoming less and less a factor in.

http://cube.ign.com/articles/593/593733p1.html Well the Nintendo president sure seems to think 3rd party support might be an issue. For the most part, developers of modern console games can port titles to the three big platforms with a reasonable amount of work. What Iwata is saying here is that the Revolution platform will be so 'revolutionary' that publishers would be forced to make a committed effort to develop titles especially for the Revolution. Big companies like EA are not very likely to throw all their eggs in the Nintendo basket especially when they can make more money porting titles to multiple systems like the 360 and PS3. This combined with the fact that Microsoft and Sony will once again have a huge head start with the relase of their next-gen consoles only serves to further the disadvantage to Nintendo. Does anyone remember the Dreamcast? It too was a revolutionary concept for its time and was actually released well before the PS2. Third party developers were hesitant and the platform ultimately failed financially although it was a technological success in that it inspired much of the technology we saw in future consoles. In the end, what will determine the success of the Revolution? If your measuring stick is sales, then that depends on how many kids can convince their parents to buy one or how many Japanese people buy one just to play Mario Revolution, Zelda Revolution and Metroid Revolution.