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The thought did cross my mind yesterday when I said they could trade both Sale and Quintana, to bring Buehrle back. It would be a very White Soxy thing to do. Buehrle, Rodon, Johnson, Danks, and another veteran or young guy, with Fulmer knocking on the door. It would be outside the box, but baseball is weird. Sometimes things work that don't make any sense on the surface.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Oct 2, 2015 -> 08:03 AM) "High as possible" at this point is 8th I believe. I'm going Sunday so I'd like for them to be 1.5 games ahead of Detroit so it doesn't matter that I see a win or not. 8th at best. 11th at worst. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/reversestandings

3 games left: Astros 84-75 at Diamondbacks Twins 83-76 vs Royals Angels 83-76 at Rangers

8. Tigers 73-85 9. White Sox 74-85 10. Padres 74-85 11. Mariners 75-84 This weekend: 3-0, don't do that 2-1, probably safe for 10 1-2, safe for 10 0-3, 8th pick Good chance losing 2 of 3 this weekend will get the Sox the 8th pick.

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Oct 1, 2015 -> 06:20 PM) Go Royals, Mariners, Pads and Tigers. This is going to be fun to see who's doing the most obvious tanking. Padres up 2-0 in the 4th. A Pads win and a Sox loss tonight would be a good thing.

All he did was ask who you like in the second wildcard.

Lineups https://twitter.com/ChiTribKane/status/649686547072163840

QUOTE (BrianAnderson @ Oct 1, 2015 -> 01:05 PM) Who is everybody rooting for? I personally am rooting for the Twins or Astros. I live in Houston right now, pretty quiet down here. Although the stadium has been more full, no real buzz around town. All my hatred for the Twins from the early 00's has gone away. Then I had it for the Tigers ... now, well, we don't win, so I don't care. So go AL Central! I'm rooting for the Angels to play the Yankees next Wednesday night. The last thing I thing I want to see is a Rangers/Astros ALCS where they come up with a BS narrative of how they're a great new "Rivalry" in baseball. A 3-way tie would be cool though.

https://twitter.com/stevestone/status/649643109484097536 Is there something you'd like to tell us, Steve?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 1, 2015 -> 12:32 PM) Sale and Quintana are both signed long term as well. The problem being that by the time you repair the damage from those deals, Abreu and Eaton will be about done here, if everything goes right. They are signed to great deals, absolutely. That works in the Sox favor on what they could get back from other teams. Now, I don't think the Sox will do this. They'll try to craft some scenario where a 2016 team has a shot to surprise...and they'll probably fail again.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 1, 2015 -> 12:13 PM) If you trade both of those two, there is zero reason for Eaton and Abreu, or pretty much anyone else over a year of service time, to be on the roster on opening day. I disagree. Abreu is under contract through 2019. Eaton is under control through 2021. The precious commodity in the modern game is offensive talent. The Sox have Abreu and Eaton who can be here for years to come at a high level. Hopefully Trayce will prove out to be a league average offensive player, and a plus defensive player. If the Sox trade from their position of strength (developing pitching), then I don't think they would miss Sale and Quintana for 2016, which will likely be Ventura's final losing season. And then they would be in a better position for the collective team in 2017 and beyond.

Trade Sale and Quintana. Get as many offensive prospects as possible, plus a starter or two that have top of the rotation upside, but maybe a year or two away. Bank on the collective pool of starting pitchers (the two they could get, Rodon, Fulmer, Johnson, Adams, Danish, Montas) being enough for 2017. That said, never going to happen.

QUOTE (bjm676 @ Oct 1, 2015 -> 11:20 AM) all those teams in the early '90s who were kinda good, probably contend for wild card, if it was around then. those teams in the early '00s who were also kinda good, might have had a chance to back in to the 2nd wild card spot. So there's that. Absolutely. They played a balanced league schedule then too. 1990 1991 1993 1994 The Sox are making the playoffs with the current format.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 1, 2015 -> 10:13 AM) All sports radio has to be 95% meatball callers. When the Sox were winning the calls weren't as adversarial. I'll buy that. Honestly, you probably have to be a certain type of person to call into a radio station to begin with.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 1, 2015 -> 09:56 AM) Do you really think a Rongey replacement would be able to go rogue and make you happy by agreeing with every boneheaded caller? I don't listen to Rongey that much anymore. My opinion is that the pool of good callers has eroded over the losing seasons, and he's only left with the meatballs. He's been doing it 10 years. It probably wouldn't hurt to get a new voice, but the Sox/WLS are going to do whatever.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 1, 2015 -> 09:55 AM) I think Hawk is pretty good. Melton screws up a lot but is pretty entertaining, and if you ever met Ed Farmer, you would think he is one of the nicest people around. I'll take your word for it on Farmer. I just don't like the guy on the air. Same stuff whenever I turn them on--golf, St. Rita, Notre Dame, tough guy act, Southern California, not giving the score, flubbing opponent's names on purpose...not a fan of the guy.

Can we at least agree Hawk and Melton are terrible at their jobs, and Farmer is an arrogant asshole? I like Garfien. DJ is fine on the postgames with Rongey---he actually speaks the truth. Rongey? It's a tough job that he makes worse by being who he is. Probably a good time for some turnover.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Oct 1, 2015 -> 09:08 AM) Losing to Barry Zito with your season on the line isn't a good look Anaheim. Also, the Mariners starting a pitcher against the Astros who never started a professional game was a bad look for Baseball.

Medlen vs Danks WELCOME TO OCTOBER BASEBALL, SOX FANS!

Astros win. Angels lose to the A's. Twins split doubleheader. Astros 84-75 (off today, then 3 interleague games in Arizona) Angels 83-75 (4 at Texas starting tonight) Twins 82-76 (1 more in Cleveland, then host the Royals this weekend) Weather looks good enough for all of these game.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Oct 1, 2015 -> 08:40 AM) We also hold the tie breaker over the Padres and Tigers if our records were the same, correct? Correct, but the Tigers are playing 161 so that won't be happening with them. Sox need to lose tonight and then lose 2 of 3 this weekend to pass the Tigers...or get swept this weekend.

QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 30, 2015 -> 07:42 AM) 8. Padres 73-84 9. Tigers 73-84 10. White Sox 74-83 11. Mariners 75-83 Same order. All four lost last night. 8. Padres 73-85 9. Tigers 73-85 10. White Sox 74-84 11. Mariners 75-84 Tigers and Mariners off today. Final weekend: Sox host Tigers. Padres at Dodgers; A's at Mariners. Sox hold tie breaker advantage with the Mariners, so 2-2 the final four should keep them safe for the 10th pick.

I think Avi's a finished product. This is who he is, and it's not good.

If Johnson and Montas start over the weekend, the final games started will be: 32- Samardzija 32- Quintana 31- Sale 30- Danks 23- Rodon 6- Johnson 5- Noesi 2- Montas 1- Beck Four guys with 30+, and the top 5 covering 148 games...it's too bad the Sox couldn't convert on this consistency.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Sep 30, 2015 -> 07:58 AM) Playing for that 8th pick I guess haha I hope the Sox are 1.5 games up over the Tigers in the reverse standings so if we win 2/3, we still finish ahead. At this point, I'm just hoping they stay behind the Mariners. They're trying to spoil the Astros again tonight, and then host the A's this weekend. Hopefully they'll try to win at home facing a crap team. The same could be said of the Sox, but just lose a couple games this week and get the 10th pick.