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without looking at the books, and seeing how jerry spends the national money(tv, internet, merchandise, radio), it's hard to see where the sox fit financially. we do know they get 45-50 million from comcast alone, and probably a third of that from wgn. And we know the sox actually make more money than the cubs on tv rights(as wgn and comcast pay both the cubs and sox the same $ amount per game, BUT the cubs have more games on wgn, which pays less) now, as for the ticket revenue, yes, the cubs sell more tickets, and therefore bring in more ticket revenue. but ricketts have more debt(tied largely to the purchase of the team), not to mention larger operating expenses in the facility as well as payroll. that's why they made a big push to get more season ticket holders(especially in the bleachers, where they average $60 a game on a package). it appears jerry uses the ticket revenue to pay for player payroll, and the tv money for the larger operation. hence, why the sox dont offer more discounts to draw fans in. as for concessions/parking/merch, we know the state/city/county gets NOTHING from that aside from tax revenue, and that the sox have deals with thier concessionaires(levy and sportservice) where they split proceeds(what percentage, i dont know) as well as pay standard parking a fee to operate the lots. now, one thing to consider is that the tv deal is set for another 8-9 seasons, and that the current deal is now considered middle of the pack. we all have heard rumblings about tommy boy ricketts trying to get out of both the comcast and wgn deals and possibly start a new station for cubs games(with some rumours attaching the hawks as a "winter partner"), but he is in the SAME boat the sox are in. that is, locked in long term. the sox have the advantage here in that IF the cubs were to leave comcast, or wish to sell thier stake, jerry has right of first refusal in the cubs' stake in the channel(potential purchase price is unknown) . while tommy boy desperately needs the money to operate, he knows he cant really turn away from the annual profts csn gives his club. and that jerry, already controlling the majority of csn(via his bulls stake), can force any negotiation on tv rates to ensure his sox and bulls get increases as well. so i honestly dont see the cubs getting the 3 million tv deal payday anytime soon(unfortunately, same goes for the sox).

32k tonight. They averaged 31k for this series. Last year it was 35k. 2010 was 39k.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jun 20, 2012 -> 02:27 PM) I am going Friday night because Chris Sale is pitching. I bet the fact that Humber and Quintana go on Saturday and Sunday has something to do with that. The $14 seats are pretty high up but if you purchase them you can always move up to empty seats.the whole section is $14. and i see plenty of tix within the first 10 rows online. it's not ok to sit in row 16 in sec 506, but it's ok to pay more for an "upper box" seat in 533 row 21

and it looks like the $14 ticket is not moving as fast as those $5 toronto tickets.....

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 20, 2012 -> 01:41 PM) But with the MLB/Stubhub partnership, the Sox will get a little kickback on that resale. The thing that bothers me about the attendance argument, is the Sox aren't really trying to sell all of their tickets. They want it both ways. Make more money per seat sold, price out a good percentage of your fanbase, but want the sympathy for the low volume they sell. They really need a new plan. Brooks and his crew should be on notice. so? that is stilla ticket that was ALREADY sold. no new sale comes from that

i'm planning on going today to the game. i only need a single seat. stubhub has single bleacher seats for $70. sox box office? $90 the ticket i buy on stubhub does NOT add to the attendance #. so dont blame me when your box office prices me out.

guess the attendance? i say 28k

in short , kenny should b**** at brooks and the ticket department for dynamic pricing. expensive, UNSOLD tickets is worse than cheap but SOLD tickets.

no. they just have a s***ty offense behind them. unless you're humber or floyd, and you too are s***ty.

they barely cracked 30k in PAID admissions last night. $49 tickets just to walk in the door, and the sox wonder why no one is coming.

let's hope he keeps this up til july 31, so we can trade him for a decent prospect or two(unless kenny decides we can "win this" and gets robbie alomar again).

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 19, 2012 -> 12:26 PM) I'm confused by dynamic pricing for these games. They aren't selling out and don't seem to be selling many more tickets. (I assume many tickets were bought in the spring) Shouldn't the price be going down?one would think. or at least stay static. an upper reserved seat for the cubs series was $42(plus fees) back in feb. it's $49 now.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 19, 2012 -> 12:14 PM) That's why it's always double-talk to complain about attendance when it's not fans they want, it's fans that pay the "maximized" or idealized amount of money (from the Sox standpoint) to attend games...which isn't really fair in this economy to criticize anyone with a family for hesitating. Even if their attendance "exploded" comparatively from here on out, the best they would possibly do is 23rd in the majors. They're 27th now...and more than 500 away from 26 and 25. It will be pretty tight by the end of the Cubs' series, but they'll still be 27th despite their best drawing home series of the year. That alone is pretty indicative of how the attendance has been so far. if they started drawing 30k a night here on out, they may end up averaging 25k when the season ended. that's middle of the pack, their normal attendance rank.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 19, 2012 -> 11:31 AM) Its $90.45 for bleachers tonight. Brooks needs to avoid the person who turned him on to dynamic pricing.stubhub is actually CHEAPER for some of the seating levels.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 19, 2012 -> 12:23 PM) I agree. The fact that they are using Groupon and have different "deals" weekly does show they realize their pricing is screwed up. I do understand and agree they shouldn't alienate their season ticketholders and give someone a better deal for the same seat type the season ticketholder bought for multiple games months before the season started, although the Sox for years have never given season ticketholders a break for half price Monday tickets. Maybe if dynamic pricing wasn't used, attendance would be the same and revenue would be lower. I just find that hard to believe. They are letting too many seats go unsold which leaves empty parking spots, unsold beer and hot dogs and t-shirts. speaking as a former season ticket holder, i dont care if some seats are discounted. STH's get prime playoff tickets, reduced prices on EVERY GAME as well as reduced parking. not to mention all the other perks. the guy buying a $5 upper is not the same type of customer oas the sth. BUT, he could become someone that buys a group package, or an STH. lure them with cheap tickets, and sell them on the experience at the game.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 19, 2012 -> 11:42 AM) Why? 33k at those price points is way better than filling up the place with $5 upper deck seats in terms of revenue.yeah, the cubs sox series used to draw 40k. even when both teams were horrible.

still plenty of tix left. and they're WEEKEND GAMES! meanwhile, sox failed to sell out the cub game last night. again. $49 to sit upstairs sure packs them in brooks!

barely had 33k in the stands. i hope brooks chokes on all those UNSOLD "dynamic" tickets

QUOTE (knightni @ Jun 16, 2012 -> 09:11 PM) Scored two club passes online for $100 for Sunday. Looks like I'll be watching in style. You paid $100 for stadium club passes? You got ripped off.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 16, 2012 -> 09:27 PM) 1-800-THE-CUBS Heard it during their broadcast. Thats for INDIVIDUAL games. Sox have one as well. 1-866-SOX-GAME

QUOTE (MuckFinnesota @ Jun 15, 2012 -> 08:58 PM) A lower deck seat was $41.05 with their deal and the PEP promo code gave me my tickets for 39.09 each. Not bad for tickets in section 102 (right field). Still, the difference isn't all that much. Might as well NOT give that money to jerry.

Too bad I paid $26 back when they went on sale. Dynamic Pricing FTL!

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/artic...ws&c_id=cws White Sox offer fans ticket specials for Milwaukee Series Upper Reserved Tickets Available for $14; Lower Reserved Seat Specials Also Available Through Social Media The Chicago White Sox have dynamically priced a limited number of tickets (Upper Reserved) to $14 for next weekend's series vs. Milwaukee, June 22-24, at U.S. Cellular Field. The $14 offer is in honor of White Sox captain, Paul Konerko, who is seeking his sixth All-Star appearance. He is currently in second place in All-Star balloting among American League first basemen. Fans can vote for Konerko at whitesox.com. The offer of these specially-priced tickets is available to fans for purchase starting at noon today (Friday, June 15) while supplies last at whitesox.com, the U.S. Cellular Field ticket office and all Ticketmaster locations. In addition, the White Sox have created a special, limited-time offer on Lower Reserved seats for the series vs. the Brewers. For more information on this offer, fans should visit the official White Sox Facebook page or Twitter feed, @whitesox. The special Lower Reserved seat offer is only available this weekend, while supplies last. The series vs. Milwaukee marks the first visit by the Brewers to the South Side of Chicago since 2000

i actually have three guys i deal with, but i got a voicemail from one of the "new business" reps hawking tickets to me.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jun 15, 2012 -> 11:50 AM) Well, you sure can't say the Sox aren't trying everything to sell tickets. Just got a personalized email from someone in the ticket office, even though I live 288 miles from the stadium. I did tell him that if he helped me find a job in Chicago/NW Indiana, I'd guarantee to buy at least a 9-game package for 2013 :> what was in the email?