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QUOTE (La Marr Hoyt HOF @ Jul 8, 2014 -> 12:12 PM) Especially given the token Lester pick, that's just total BS Does everyone think Lester sucks or something? He clearly doesn't. If you want to complain, complain about Scott Kazmir.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 8, 2014 -> 10:43 AM) Defensively Kyrie-Waiters-James-Love Verajao (but realistically their backup C due to injury) is possibly worse than rockets with only 1 plus defender (James) Kyrie-Wiggins/James-TT-Verajao(but really backup C) is still not great. That would all really depend on Wiggins development. Kyrie still has yet to be as great as people assume he is, to me he's nothing more than a streaky shooter and capable ball handler on a bad team that increases his usage rate. Kyrie's efficiency has gone down every year since he's been in the league. But I don't think you can question his ability to create his own shot and handle the ball. Even in a down season last year, he had a .533 TS%. With another threat like LeBron on the team, I wouldn't be surprised to see his stats absolutely skyrocket.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 8, 2014 -> 10:38 AM) Honestly, I think Lebron, Varajao, Wiggins, and Irving is better than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade at this point. If Varejao can stay healthy, yeah. Plus, they got some other pieces on that roster that are way better than what Miami has to offer (Waiters, Thompson, Bennett).

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 8, 2014 -> 10:34 AM) Then they turn around and trade Varajeo and Wiggins for Love God I hope not. LeBron going to Cleveland would even out the East a bit, but putting Love on the same team would make it completely lopsided again.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jul 8, 2014 -> 10:33 AM) Can't wait for the inevitable "he has no supporting cast" argument. Kyrie's better than anything he ever had in Cleveland.

Can I just fast forward a week and not deal with all of this speculation? Ugh.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 8, 2014 -> 12:50 AM) FWIW, if I want to spend $10 million on FA and it's down to Lance Stephenson and Chandler Parsons, I'm going Parsons every time That's assuming Parsons' going rate is $10 million. I think it's going to be higher. Stephenson's market value is about what he actually provides for you on the court right now. You're not really overpaying for him. Stephenson may be an idiot, but you can't overlook his efficiency numbers last year for an offensively challenged Indiana team. Not only did he shoot the ball fairly well (including the 3), he averaged almost 5 assists per game. He can be your second ball handler. He also plays defense, so there's that.

Joe Cowley mentioned that Stephenson is asking for $10 million a year. If we don't get Melo, I don't think signing him to an offer sheet is a bad idea. If Indy doesn't match, whatever, he's a nice player at a position we need to fill. He can be had for what is basically market value. $10 million a year to Stephenson isn't an overpay IMO, especially given his defensive, passing, and shooting abilities. The only issue is that Stephenson is weird as hell and basically helped Indiana blow up last year. The last thing this Bulls team needs is internal issues among players. I'm sure Stephenson will be liked if the Bulls win, but like with Indy last year, once the going gets tough, s*** might hit the fan. If Indy does match, whatever. You end up making them pay a bit more than what they offered (5 and $44 million) as well. Again, this is like plan D, but I feel like it's a plan D that can yield a high reward. It might also blow up in our face.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 8, 2014 -> 12:15 AM) Da f***? This guy is stealing my ideas I'm sure everything he wrote about has been talked about by the posters in this thread and on most internet message boards.

Mike McGraw seems to think the lack of any word from Melo means a S&T is being worked on with the Bulls. http://www.dailyherald.com/article/2014070..._medium=twitter

QUOTE (Knuckles @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 11:31 PM) KC Johnson says without sign and trade Bulls can offer $73. I was expecting something around $16-17 million honestly. Getting near the $19 million figure means they're willing to dump a lot (maybe even Jimmy Butler).

QUOTE (Knuckles @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 10:57 PM) Not sure if it was reported by Cowley says: "That instant contender would cost him about $54 million because the Bulls have a four-year, $75 million offer on the table." Hey, that's better than what I thought they would have offered him.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 09:19 PM) Link? I'm not going to bother to look for the posts since it's been 4 years, but I think it was pretty clear that you expected LeBron to be in Chicago. I think a lot of us did.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 08:35 PM) To be fair, I never thought LeBron was definitely coming to Chicago. I was certain he'd never go to Dwyane Wade's team when he could go to Chicago or New York. Uh, yeah you did.

So here's an interesting theory. What if Melo is using the Lakers as leverage for the Knicks to S&T him to Chicago? If it was only Chicago or New York, the Knicks can have leverage with money. But with a second team in the contest that can also give him similar money, that leverage kind of goes away.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 07:41 PM) No, I'm saying you exhaust options for Melo first, before moving on... signing Chandler Parsons to an offer sheet locks up 12 million of cap space for 3 days. Signing him to an offer sheet for 8 million does this, too (which is what I think he's worth), and I'd rather see what happens with Melo. I believe in Melo. I wasn't saying we should move on Parsons before Melo or anything. I don't think anyone is saying Parsons is a better option somehow. And Steve, to be fair, you believed in LeBron 4 years ago and look how that turned out. We need you to be pessimistic this time.

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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 06:55 PM) No idea who this is, but a friend texted me this and thought I would share Nobody, since they have 110 followers on Twitter.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 06:42 PM) Nobody wants the status quo but Parsons isn't the answer either. Get creative and figure something else out, we're always settling for 2nd tier players and f*** that noise, lets not do that this time around. And agreed about Jo, so lets not waste another year being stuck in NBA hell. I like wishing for the moon too, but let's not give the Bulls' FO too much credit here.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 06:41 PM) Remember when Melo would make his decision saturday. Then today. That was fun I think the whole Lakers thing convoluted this entire situation. If LA didn't come up, he'd probably be back in NY by now.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 06:30 PM) This is exactly what I was saying. Teams with championship aspirations don't add Chandler Parsons at $12 mill per. That's that. If y'all are ok 50 wins and a 2nd round exit, which I'm not, then he's the guy you want. So you're saying we should just live with the status quo if we strike out on Melo and Love? I'd like to remind everyone that Joakim Noah is going to be 30 next year and is a free agent in 2016. We don't have a large window here.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 06:29 PM) We'd be fine with Parsons, I think Steve understands that but Chandler isn't going to be the piece that wins us a title. Oh I agree. But we're probably not getting Kevin Love (trade or free agency) and honestly, we're not a legit title contender with Melo if Rose isn't good Derrick Rose.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 06:19 PM) Well, yeah, but Deng plays legit defense, and still anyone with a brain hated his contract. You don't win titles by giving Chandler Parsons 12 million a year. What the Bulls are looking at is trying to win titles, finally. A move for Chandler Parsons at $12 million/year would be right in line with what they were happy doing the last decade. Yeah, except we had a lot of that already. And let's not pretend that Parsons is somehow a defensive liability. He's 6'9 and he's pretty athletic. We lived with Mike Dunleavy at the 3 last year. I think we can live with Chandler Parsons.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 05:34 PM) He absolutely is all of that, but he'd be a guaranteed 4 year 48 mill contract. That will severely limit the bulls going forward from being rumored to land the next superstar whom will spurn us. edited for clarity to show 12 million per year Now that I think about this again, I actually think Pierce is a much better fit for the team than Parsons if we're looking short-term. Parsons is a long-term move, obviously. He's young and he'd need a 4 year deal. You can probably get PP on a 2 year deal at a slightly lower price. Pierce is the type of player the Bulls desperately lacked last year: somebody who can shoot it in crunch time. He might only play 30-32 minutes a game, but with McDermott you can afford to have him do that. With a healthy Rose, Pierce you'd have two guys who can create their shot in isolation situations. It's not ideal since Pierce is nearing the end, but he actually had a very effective year last year in Boston despite the limited touches.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 05:36 PM) Right, but this part: It would be fully unguaranteed in the two subsequent seasons, a la Keith Bogans, and thus not impinging at all on the 2015 free agency plan. Like I said, Hinrich would love to get paid $5 million to play basketball. The Bulls probably won't bring him back unless he's willing to play for the vet min anyhow.