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Martinez had only allowed 11 homers in 117 innings prior to tonight.

Absolutely loving Mune going the opposite way on offspeed and breaking pitches.

Tropicana sucks to hit at cause the batters eye is bad. I remember Cruz got traded there and absolutely sucked. I don't think it's a coincidence that the Rays were mid last year and then they move back to the Trop and all of a sudden they have the best home record in baseball.

But did he give up a homer to Bartolo Colon?

Especially if what you're after is projected performance and not what he's already done.

There's definitely some sunk cost fallacy when it comes to him. We traded Curtis Mead for him, who just got the Nationals a top 50 prospect. So there's probably a feel like we need to get something of real value out of him because we traded so much away.

I guess the concern with his profile is that he strikes out a lot. But he also walks a lot and hits for a lot of power. He might also not stick at catcher, which will affect his value as a prospect. He's also 23...so if he doesn't keep progressing like he has down in the minors, he might lose his prospect status in 2 years.

Yeah I'd hate to trade a catcher that's raking for a rental having a bad year like Peralta. I guess the good thing about Peralta is that he's only making $8 mil this year so he's cheap.

FanGraphs has both these around the top 50 for the Twins.

Doubt it's much. Minter's a decent reliever making a lot of money this year ($11 million).

Wow the Twins are actually buying.

Some things to add on here: The change in arm angle and release point is very obvious. Pre-injury: 32.1 degree arm angle, release point of (5.78, -1.97) Post-injury: 37.9 degree arm angle, release point of (5.98, -1.87) This has resulted in a higher whiff percentage (up 9%) and less balls (7% decrease). He's actually generating less called strikes, but more whiffs and fouls. There's been a real change here and that's what's encouraging about how good he's been. Hopefully he keeps it up.

I thought Ron made this thread and immediately thought that Colson will go on a hot streak.

None of the rental pitchers have surplus values of more than $8 million. That's like the value of a mid level prospect. A lot of those guys make too much money and aren't having good enough years to justify the cost. Some teams might get desperate, but they're not stupid enough to trade top 100 guys for 2 months of a guy making $20 million a year.

I saw the Sox logo pop up on the ticker too, but I thought the Adell and Soler thing was about the Yankees.

You sure that's not a mistake? Why would we want either of those guys? We already have too many right handed OFers and the guys we already have aren't any worse than Soler or Adell.

Ray pretty much breezing through 5 against the Padres. I watched a few innings and he doesn't seem like a guy fishing for Ks like he used to. As others have said, the problem is that his peripherals aren't good and his home/road splits are pretty drastic. Oracle Park is one of the hardest parks to hit homers in. However, if he pitched all of his games at the Rate, he's expected to give up 2 less homers than he has given up this year. At the very least, he will definitely eat innings and keep you in games, which is an improvement over Fedde and Schultz.

Reminds me of the 4 game series in Cleveland.

Didn't really have much business winning today either.

Why did they keep calling fastballs when Cruz clearly can't locate them?

Suck it Cruz!

Mune is up first.

All of Soxtalk in shambles

Holy s%*# he actually did it Now go win this damn game.

Dominguez sucks against LHH