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QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Aug 10, 2010 -> 07:35 PM) nice brawl right now CIN vs. STL ANOTHER ONE?

Looks like our s***ty play carried over from Baltimore.

QUOTE (WilliamTell @ Aug 10, 2010 -> 07:30 PM) yeah and a steal by Rios would only ensure it with a base open. So it was a completely moot point and you risk getting yourself out.

Hey, Ozzie, I love your ideas. Steal in front of your best hitter while giving your biggest rival one of their best hitters in the off-season. GENIUS!

Stealing in the early stages is a bad thing. This is true in life and in baseball. They were surely going to pitch around Konerko...

Looks like bad Freddy is on display tonight.

And what do you know? A fight breaks out... Cueto was kicking people with his spikes. He'll surely get in trouble.

QUOTE (Felix @ Aug 10, 2010 -> 06:32 PM) f*** the Twins Let's get it!

QUOTE (J.Reedfan8 @ Aug 10, 2010 -> 04:48 PM) Am I missing something? I don't think he said anything about the 'race' card in there. His comments were more that of his own teammate.. Joey Votto... except Votto hates the Cubs much more than the Cards. (Phillips is the opposite) Phillips was also a lot more explicit in his words. The whole Hunter/Hudson thing was me trying to say he's being out of line with his comments.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 10, 2010 -> 03:51 PM) Probably ought to post this somewhere. Brandon Phillips with a Torii Hunter/Orlando Hudson moment.

QUOTE (daa84 @ Aug 9, 2010 -> 11:10 PM) http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_...ame_pk%3D265482 if you watch teh second replay, you can clearly see the first base umpire call the runner safe (in other words konerko DIDN'T STEP on 1b)....the home plate ump probably never even realized this, and didn't realize it should have been a force play at home (its debatable whether AJ had the plate or not...1st replay looked like it, second was iffy) the runner (wieters) was or at least should have been called out for abandoning his effort on the basepaths.....the question is whether this call comes before or after the play at the plate, and whether or not the home plate umpire knew this was the call.... weird weird and interesting play So Scott should have been out at home I guess... Hmmm

So Carlos Quentin hits a bad stretch and he gets dropped to 7th. Kotsay's sucked all year and he still bats 6th regularly. I think it's fair to say that Kotsay must be letting Ozzie do naughty things with his wife.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 10, 2010 -> 01:45 PM) My friend the O's fan has this take on the series: Haha, if he really thinks the Orioles are just as good as the White Sox, he really is delusional.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Aug 10, 2010 -> 01:14 PM) That is a decent difference. Baseball is won or lost by 1 run and that 2.5% difference could impact many calculations. I also want to point out that in 2010, the average runs scored (as of this point in time) is 4.42 runs. The change between 2003 and the current year production is ~50 runs. That is a huge difference. Or a 6.55% percentage change. It wouldn't surprise me if that figure went up. Maybe this year is just one of those down years for hitting. I think it might be accurate to say that in the current post steroid era, the average runs per game should be around 4.55 to 4.6. http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statisti....php?cid=139594 Looking at the RE figures of this season, it is lower than what it had been and this is a progressive thing. However, there is one thing in common with almost all of those matrices. The RE of a runner on first with nobody out and the RE of a runner on second with one out is always around a .2 run difference. The numbers may look different, but some of the conventional methods of sabermetrics still do apply.

QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Aug 10, 2010 -> 12:12 PM) Dammit I want a freaking demoralizing blowout. I wanna put up about 20 runs on these bastards and shut them down. I mean like in May 2009 when they beat us 20-1. I wanna put that kind of ass whuppin on them. Oh and a bench clearing brawl would be nice too. I remember when we embarrassed the Twins at home in 2008. That was oh so satisfying.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 10, 2010 -> 11:51 AM) What a p****. At least she now knows that when the going gets tough, he'll just run away...

Come on Freddy, be the stopper you were when we sucked.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 9, 2010 -> 05:45 PM) http://chicago-bears-fan-zone.info/744/bea...cago-bears.html Read this and the comments too. Facepalm. Jay Cutler must have died in those people's yes. And did none of those guys realize that McNabb already got traded? lmao

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Aug 9, 2010 -> 10:01 PM) In my road to the show, the Twins added Carl Crawford, Johnathon Broxton, and K-Rod. I'm sure that's what Mike Rizzo asked for in return for Adam Dunn.

QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Aug 10, 2010 -> 10:27 AM) The only positive that I take away from this series is that by losing 3 of 4, there's no danger in the team being unfocused and overconfident and lacadaisical going into this series with the Twins. I think we'll see the best from everybody. Let's hope it's enough. The hitters seem to become more relaxed at home. They came away from that Oakland series hitting like crap too. Then they went on a nice run at home, albeit that was against the Mariners.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Aug 10, 2010 -> 10:10 AM) And 0% lineup calculators. These lineup calculators are pretty accurate. The usual Ozzie lineup averages 4.57 runs in that calculator. This team averages 4.57 runs... You don't say...

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Aug 10, 2010 -> 10:04 AM) I hate this argument. There are WS winning teams that arent "optimized". Of course there are, but haven't you heard that baseball is 60% skill and 40% luck?

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Aug 10, 2010 -> 09:57 AM) Just to point something out, a lot of sabermetric studies are relatively obsolete due to the steroid era coming to an end. A lot of the factors/components that came into play regarding the impacts of getting thrown out, etc, change when in general scoring and offensive output are down. It is why teams are starting to realize how undervalued strong defensive players can be as well as the importance of running. Quite frankly, stats are important, but I have little problems with teams that are aggressive on the basepaths because I firmly believe you can create opportunities, etc. There is a time and a place for everything though but fundamentally I've been very happy with this White Sox team. I don't think the difference is that drastic that a lot of things are getting thrown out the window. I don't have all the numbers, but the average MLB team scored 4.73 runs in 2003. In 2009, it's 4.61. That's around a 18 run difference.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Aug 10, 2010 -> 09:49 AM) So why dont you just put yours out there. It's one thing to continue to keep saying something is wrong, its another to try and put something out there that you think is right. Based on your critique of Ozzie, it most likely would be better than what he puts out there and the moves he makes in the game. i'll edit this so you dont once again think im being "pissy" and attacking you. One of your main points was that Ozzie makes terrible lineups. How about you start with that? Just post the lineup you think you would want that day, and everyone else can put theirs as well. It's pretty low risk for criticism since you cant really prove what would have been better. It's not that hard to run the lineup experiment. You put the current lineup into a lineup optimizer, see how many runs it averages. You put the lineup you want into a lineup optimizer, see how many runs it averages. I've done this before, the lineup I put in there scored around .2 runs more than Ozzie's lineups. That's mostly because he likes hitting Kotsay 6th. Over a whole season, that lineup that averages .2 runs more scores 32 more runs. That's a big difference.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Aug 10, 2010 -> 09:43 AM) Still two of our best hitters, especially with runners in scoring position. It couldnt be a more ideal situation. It'd be more ideal if Pierre was on second with nobody out.