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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 10, 2010 -> 08:50 AM) We're 30-29 on the road on the season. 8 of those wins were against the Cubs, Pirates, and Nationals. We're 22-28 against the AL on the road. This team's been completely different at home though.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Aug 10, 2010 -> 09:40 AM) Who's defending Bobby in that post? The collective Soxtalk attitude after a tough loss is either DFA someone, fire Ozzie, or talk about how much KW sucks for not putting a good team on the field. Its par for the course. And I usually hate bunting for that reason above, but with the ridiculous mud pit that took shape at first base and the confidence that I have that Rios and Konerko could get a hit with a man in scoring position, I wasnt very upset with bunting with Alexei there. Honestly I would have rather put on the hit and run if I had Omar up at bat. You were defending Jenks or trying to make a point of all the "negativity" or something like that. And you wouldn't be depending on Konerko and Rios, you'd be depending on Quentin and Rios. Nobody in their right mind would pitch to Konerko with a base open.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Aug 10, 2010 -> 09:32 AM) Really? I'm not going to go and research all of the great bunts in WS history, because its a waste of time. You know its the correct move to get a player into scoring position at any cost in that situation. And the Red Sox are gay anyway. The correct move is to move him into scoring position. But the best one is to get him there without giving up any outs.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Aug 10, 2010 -> 09:10 AM) Because if Pierre gets caught stealing you would come on here and say how stupid he is for running into outs. Getting your fastest player into scoring position at 2nd base in a tie game with the middle of the order coming up with TWO chances to get a hit and score the guy is frankly an ideal situation. Of course since we didnt win the game, its becomes alot easier to try and find something to criticize. Where are all of the posts about how Putz should be DFA'd? Pierre will only fail 25% of the time. That's like saying the guy hitting .750 is a bad hitter and shouldn't be allowed to hit in big situations. Sure, it's contextual and you don't always do one thing or the other, but it seems like Ozzie is always bunting Pierre over. And can we please stop trying to defend Jenks? Putz has been a hell of a lot better than Bobby this year. People have more patience with him.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Aug 9, 2010 -> 11:37 PM) And who would have thought 4 days ago that today we'd be tied for first after losing 3 of 4 to the Orioles? Look, the turn around from this team has been nothing short of remarkable since June, that being said, we're in a pennant race now and just because we were terrible in April and May doesn't make series like this any less disappointing. Well said. Your mind shouldn't be stuck in May and April thinking how great it would be if this team is at its current position. You should be thinking about the team in its current situation - and that's tied in a pennant race after a horrid series. Now if we were to look back on the season at the end of it and we came up short, it might be nice to think how great this team had to play to get back into it. But to think of it like that now, that's almost a defeatist attitude.

QUOTE (RudyLawRules @ Aug 9, 2010 -> 11:03 PM) If the pitching is there in September...so will we. That depends how much the offense is interested in scoring. The pitching did its job on this road trip with the exception of one game, maybe two if you're picky. Yet, we only went 4-4.

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Aug 9, 2010 -> 10:57 PM) Here is the tale of the two groups and their take on the series. The pitching.... ''We should [beat them],'' Buehrle said. ''We are playing one of the worst teams in baseball. [Pitcher John] Danks said that coming into the game, you look at their lineup and wonder how that team is that bad. We should come in here and beat these guys. If we want to get to where we want to be, we got to beat teams like this.'' The offense ''You never think it's going to be easy. I don't,'' Konerko said. ''If anybody says it's going to be or is arrogant and thinks you can just walk out there and beat anybody, it's not going to happen. In the big leagues, that's the way it is. We still have a game [tonight], so we've got to salvage something before we walk out of here." Now we know why one group is good while the other is barely average.

QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Aug 9, 2010 -> 10:38 PM) Love these types of posts. Dont worry it will be 2012 soon and it will all be over. If only that 2012 hoax was real though...

QUOTE (daa84 @ Aug 9, 2010 -> 10:49 PM) whaaa?? I had the same reaction. I really didn't get it. He clearly jogged towards the bag and tried to tag it.

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Aug 9, 2010 -> 10:30 PM) Pitching is what you need to do well in the playoffs, and we have that. I'm not worried about this team. The only problem is that you gotta get there first.

Konerko said he didn't step on first during that 6th inning and that the umpire screwed up...

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Aug 9, 2010 -> 09:25 PM) Exactly, I’ve never claimed that he has to be an expert or even a believer. But surely someone has said to him, “Hey, Ozzie. Did you know that if a stolen bass percentage is below 75% you’re wasting a s*** load of outs?” Or hey, “how about it cuts your chances of scoring a run into thirds if you bunt like you do?” Or, “Hey Ozzie. Take a look at these matchups! Do you see how Markakis hits against lefties? Maybe Sale isn’t the best idea?” Or, “ hey Ozzie. Andrew Jones and Mark Kotsay suck. Seriously, Kotsay is one of the worst players in all of baseball. ” Ozzie is way too full of himself to listen to anybody else.

QUOTE (striker @ Aug 9, 2010 -> 09:18 PM) Ozzie probably has math skills at a 3rd grade level so don't count on him using sabermetrics. I wouldn't be surprised. I think I'm more pissed off that he always sac bunts with Pierre on first. Like if the game is close and Pierre is on first, he'll always try to bunt him over. Yet, in almost every other situation, Pierre is always free to steal.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 9, 2010 -> 09:13 PM) Like someone said in this thread earlier. We're going to lose this division because of pitching. *rolls eyes* HEY, PUTZ DID GIVE UP THE GAME-WINNING HOME RUN.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 9, 2010 -> 09:13 PM) DAllen said he thought Thornton tweaked something Might be nothing. With the way he pitched, you couldn't really tell.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 9, 2010 -> 09:10 PM) So how did Jackson look tonight? Good. He got screwed by the defense in the 6th. At least he didn't get the loss, that would have been a shame.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Aug 9, 2010 -> 09:09 PM) There's going to be a serious sabermetric deconstruction of this team when the year is out. It is not going to be pretty. There will certainly have some great findings. It's like a science experiment - see what happens when your manager wastes a bunch of outs.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 9, 2010 -> 09:09 PM) Looks like Ozzie got his ass handed to him by Showalter once again. Horrible all around series...I hate Ozzieball! And is Thornton hurt? This is what Ozzie gets for f***ing with Buck back in the day. If I remember correctly, Ozzie started it all because he thought Showalter's lineup cards were too fancy? Has to be karma.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Aug 9, 2010 -> 12:50 AM) Oh for sure, but you can't let one season's worth of poor numbers scare you off of fairly young talent... As we saw with the Haren trade, some teams will take small sample sizes seriously.

QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Aug 9, 2010 -> 09:05 PM) And now the genius manager is going to burn through our bullpen the night before a series with Minny. Put Liebrink or Pena in fu*k you Ozzie u piece of s. t. U an ur horrble offesense and decisions lost this game. I hope ur stubborness for Kotsay costs u ur job when we fizzle out the rest of the year. One more time f**k u Ozzie guillen, ur a lucky manager. KW you better rectify this BS offense. What a joke Baltimore. Fk Calm down man...

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Aug 9, 2010 -> 09:05 PM) Bunting twice with no one out was really, really dumb. That's what Ozzie does. He loves wasting outs.

Well this game sucked.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 9, 2010 -> 08:52 PM) I just replayed it 3 times, Thornton definitely tweaked something in his arm or elbow that last pitch. It didn't seem unusual to me.

QUOTE (sin city sox fan @ Aug 9, 2010 -> 08:49 PM) Is Bobby available tonight? We're likely going to need him to close this out in the bottom of the 12th. I don't even want to think about Bobby closing a game right now. I want enough runs so that we don't have to worry about him getting a save.

A.J. could have had a 3-0 count there.