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QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jul 6, 2010 -> 10:58 AM) The problem with trading Noah is your interior defense takes a major hit and you wouldn't have the money to replace him. Two max players plus either Deng or Hedo (which pretty much have to be involved) puts you right up against the cap. That means your interior defense is left to Bosh, Gibson and probably Asik. Can any of those guys guard NBA centers right now? Bosh has proven that he can't, Gibson is too small and Asik is unproven. It has nothing to do with Noah's value relative to Bosh, it has everything to do with getting these guys and still being able to field a championship caliber defense. It would be difficult to fufill their championship potential with no one to guard Dwight or the Bynum/Gasol duo. I think a lot of us are a lot more concerned with getting superstar players than inside defense.

QUOTE (Real @ Jul 5, 2010 -> 09:38 PM) What kind of OF would you rather have? Upton / Rios \ Quentin or Pierre / Rios \ Upton or Pierre / Upton \ Rios or Pods / Mackowiak \ Dye ? My god that was a BAD defensive outfield.

Another issue would be whether or not Jerry wants all this future luxury tax. We wouldn't have to sign Noah anymore, but Rose is going to get a raise in two years. Both of these guys' contracts will also increase in value as they get more tenure.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 6, 2010 -> 10:54 AM) There is a trade kicker so Turk impacts the cap more than 9.8M. The more I think about it, the more I'd rather have Bosh than Boozer. Bosh is much younger and much healthier. And I'd be willing to trade Noah if need be. However, I would only do that if we were getting Wade or Lebron. I would not do it if we weren't. It's $15% right? Well, if that's the case, then he'll cost just as much as Deng. So the only money you save is from Noah and Johnson, which might do it.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 6, 2010 -> 10:48 AM) Wade is not going to sign with us for less than Bosh. IMO, if Bosh will only do a S&T then there is no possibility of getting two of LeBron/Wade/Bosh. We'd have to do two S&T's and we don't have enough players on our roster to do so. Right now, you got to hope that Wade or LeBron will decide Chicago is in their best interest and will directly sign with us. That might leave enough money to sign Boozer or Lee without making any other moves. If Wade wants out of Miami, he'll just leave. Out of everybody, he probably cares the least about money.

Noah actually makes $3 million this year. Deng makes almost $11.5 million. You can also throw in James Johnson, who makes almost $2 million. Turkoglu makes $9.8 million this year. So you save $1.5 million from Deng, in reality, $3 million from Noah and $2 million from Johnson. That's $6.5 million. Currently, the Bulls are at $25.9 million (with Hinrich trade). The cap this year is $56.1 million. We have a little over $30 million (could be under, not completely sure). So add $6.5 to that figure and you have yourself enough for two max contracts.

We're going to have a lot of luxury tax if this is the case...

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 6, 2010 -> 10:39 AM) Yeah, the idea being Hedo comes back. I didn't do the salary figures, but you can work it out if Toronto gets Noah and thus Collangelo can claim "win". Noah + Deng for Turkoglu and Bosh. Bosh gets that extra $30 million later on. His salary this year would be the normal max, or $30% of the cap ($17.1 million). Turkoglu made $9 million last year and I think that he should make a similar figure this year. So you save $2 million from Deng. Noah makes $2.5 million. So you take about $4.5 million off your remaining cap. That should be enough for Wade.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Jul 6, 2010 -> 10:34 AM) The thought here isn't bad. Problem is, a Bosh S&T without Deng involved means the Bulls can't offer Wade or Lebron a max. Doesn't Hedo make less money than Deng?

QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Jul 6, 2010 -> 10:30 AM) either way, he is not amare, he is older and is an inferior player to amare. A team would be crazy to hand out 30% of the cap to him. 5 year $80 mil- $85 mil is what he is worth Boozer is one year older. Both are injury prone as hell, but their production, when healthy, has been pretty similar. Amar'e's the bigger name, but he's not much better, if better at all. Toronto was crazy enough to give Amir Johnson $34 million. Anything can happen. If a team signs Boozer for a lot of money, it's probably more about trying to recruit a bigger fish. In that case, they will overpay.

I think Kobe was just making up lame excuses, lol. Who wants to play with Luol Deng?

QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Jul 6, 2010 -> 10:11 AM) max contracts are different for everybody. I believe it's 105% of their last contract. In Boozer's case, it would be around $75mil/ 5 years or $93mil/6 year if he resigns with Jazz He's been in the league for more than 7 years. He can get 30% of the cap on a max.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jul 6, 2010 -> 10:09 AM) @chadfordinsider - LeBron & Bosh want to play together. Bron would prefer Cleveland. Bosh prefers Chi, Mia or NJ. Who persuades who? LeBron will win. Bulls need to act now if they this is true. It's them vs. Miami.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Jul 6, 2010 -> 09:54 AM) Love your screen name. It's so uncreative that it's actually creative. It's so creative that nobody's thought of it before.

QUOTE (Real @ Jul 6, 2010 -> 09:59 AM) Konerko's road splits concerning He's always been a good hitter in this park.

QUOTE (beckham15 @ Jul 6, 2010 -> 10:00 AM) unless wade wants to play with David Lee With that Heat roster? lololol

The problem right now is this: Miami has room for two max contracts, we don't. If you sign Boozer now, he has options. He can go to Miami for the max, which is 30% of the cap. So he can get similar money to Amare if the Heat are truly desperate (and I think they are). So basically, you'd be overpaying for Boozer. Lee can't get 30% of the cap as a max contract, he's only been in the league for 5 years. He's keeping Boozer's value down right now since they're somewhat comparable players. I'm sure Wade would rather play with Boozer. If you can get Boozer to take less than a max and still have room for another max, you lock him down now. If not, well, just hope that Wade will come here.

QUOTE (MurcieOne @ Jul 6, 2010 -> 09:51 AM) Bosh S&T to Cleveland Bulls sign Boozer and Wade? If that's the case, the Bulls need to sign Boozer NOW. You take away Miami's options and make Wade choose.

QUOTE (Real @ Jul 6, 2010 -> 09:47 AM) Um Chris_Broussard Raptors have told Cavs they would do a sign-and-trade with them for Bosh. Cavs and LeBron working to convince Bosh to join them in Cleveland Is this official? edit: if it is, it confirms that Bosh indeed doesn't want to go to Cleveland, and that Lebron definitely is staying there This could very well mean we will get Wade. If it's true, so be it.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 6, 2010 -> 09:42 AM) He's still my top choice, but others will disagree. His 2010 numbers have been sub-par, but he's turned it on a bit lately. He can be had for a more reasonable price than Dunn, the Astros would be happy to get him off their books for the year. And I think he still has a lot of power and OBP capability that will show up beyond his year's numbers. He's got a buyout and costs like $7 million for the rest of the year. His production wouldn't be much better than Adam LaRoche.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 6, 2010 -> 09:40 AM) Anyone think Berkman could be a decent addition as a DH for the remainder of the year? Costs too much. Both prospects wise and financially.

There's only one Carlos Quentin.

QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Jul 6, 2010 -> 08:44 AM) I wonder if Alejandro De Aza could put up DeJesus-like numbers if he was given enough playing time in the majors... If he could, he'd be on another ML team already.

QUOTE (DBAHO @ Jul 6, 2010 -> 09:16 AM) Ric Bucher's tweet from yesterday looks like it's becoming more and more a distinct possibility. And it seems Melo's almost a lock to re-sign with the Nugs for another 3 years FWIW. You're gonna listen to Ric Bucher?

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 6, 2010 -> 08:17 AM) As can Delonte West... and his still being in Cleveland is reason #829 why LBJ needs to GTFO. +9001