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Since Washington really likes Jackson, maybe Kenny should try to get Jackson straight from Arizona and then flip him to Washington for Dunn. After all, I would think that getting Jackson alone will be cheaper than getting Dunn. If you can't flip Jackson for Dunn, you get yourself a guy with a 4.3 FIP, which isn't the worst thing that can happen. Jackson would then be the 4th or 5th starter on this team.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 26, 2010 -> 04:48 PM) Not a good combination considering the launching pad Chase Field is. It's actually 43 home runs, I forgot to add 10 for some reason. He's been averaging about 23-24 home runs allowed. That's about what Haren did, but at least Haren would strike a ton of guys out while limiting his walks. Saunders strikes out about half the guys Haren does and walks more while giving up as many, if not more home runs.

Twins are set to acquire somebody from Toronto. Most likely Frasor or Downs. Maybe even Shaun Marcum. I would be scared if it was Marcum. That guy owns us.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 26, 2010 -> 04:46 PM) He'd still put up better numbers than Kotsay while on the DL. Mark Kotsay's been worth -0.8 WAR so far. Quite frankly, everybody that hasn't played for the White Sox this year has been better than him.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 26, 2010 -> 04:38 PM) Mark Kotsay would be an upgrade over Davis. Smoak wasn't hitting all that much better when he was there either. My point exactly. It isn't hard to be better than Davis right now, even though Cantu hasn't been good this year.

QUOTE (IamtheHBOMB @ Jul 26, 2010 -> 04:19 PM) I'm pretty sure he traveled at 3:37 there.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 26, 2010 -> 04:28 PM) Did he get released? He probably should be released. A 1B/3B with a .315 wOBA and bad defense has very little value.

Another thing with Saunders is that he gives up a lot of home runs. He's served up 33 home runs these past two years. For a ground ball pitcher, that's pretty bad.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 26, 2010 -> 04:14 PM) Its not about production, its about versatility I still can't believe that they thought Kotsay could play the OF, yet he's only played 5 games. What versatility?

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 26, 2010 -> 04:14 PM) We saw why in The Club. JR stated how "we like to pick up guys after a down year or 2 that want to prove something". That's fine and dandy if the said player still had something left in the tank. Like J.J. Putz. That's definitely not the case with Kotsay. You can't keep getting crap off the scrap heap and hope it turns into gold. It's not the formula of building a successful team.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 26, 2010 -> 04:13 PM) Rangers close to signing him. He'd be an upgrade over Davis.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 26, 2010 -> 04:10 PM) KW didn't have to listen. That too. But it just confuses me how you can think the combination of Jones/Kotsay can somehow outproduce Thome.

He's making this sound as if it's a done deal.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jul 26, 2010 -> 03:59 PM) The best thing we could have done is either signedThome or claimed Cust and stashed him AAA after he was DFA'D. Now, we're in a sitiuation where we have to make a move. f***in' Ozzie.

Putz's numbers are for real. Unless he gets hurt or too tired his numbers are here to stay.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 26, 2010 -> 03:55 PM) I doubt he would have signed with us if we did. If nothing else, hopefully he's pitched himself at least to the point where we get a pick for him. Really depends on the money involved on it.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 26, 2010 -> 03:45 PM) Someone's going to fire 3/$30 off on Putz this offseason unless he gets hurt or falls apart. Makes me wish we could have put an option in that contract.

I'm actually excited for this year's Madden. Players no longer run like they're stuck in mud. They got a new and less boring play by play man in Gus Johnson. The whole gameflow feature looks kind of interesting. Plus, it looks like the presentation has taken a step up this year. They have nice superbowl celebration video cuts now and Obama is in it! lol http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/110/1108432p1.html

Get it get it This outta be a great pitching matchup.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 26, 2010 -> 03:25 PM) I don't think that'll be enough to keep Putz. Give him 2 years and $18 million. I bet he stays. His best buddy's here.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 26, 2010 -> 03:20 PM) That is not how it worked. Flowers was promoted to AAA mid-last-season, and put up a .286/.364/.438/.803, which is decent for just being promoted. And his power is actually up this year. But in this past offseason, he apparently went on his own to an old coach for help, changed his approach, and it f***ed him up good. Now he's trying to transition back to what he was doing previously, and its not going well. Basically, his head got f***ed with. I think he's likely to improve before the season is out. I don't know why he saw the need to change his approach. His approach was perfectly fine before. He could probably put up Mike Napoli-like numbers minus the huge power. He still has good power, just not .500 SLG type of pop.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 26, 2010 -> 03:10 PM) I remember the report was that he only wanted to play RF and be the first Japanese player on the team, so he went to the Cubs even though the Sox offered more money. I could be wrong though. We were gonna end up sticking him in center. I remembered the whole being the first Japanese player thing was more important to him.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Jul 26, 2010 -> 03:10 PM) 0.186/0.280/0.349/0.629 Your starting catcher of the future That's cause he's been terrible this year. Go look at his projections last year.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 26, 2010 -> 03:03 PM) $6.5 million next year for him? No thank you. He keeps getting worse and worse and is now a 4th OF for the Cubs. Thank god we had Jermaine Dye in RF & Takatsu has already played for us, or the Sox would be stuck with that awful contract. The Cubs have a pretty stacked OF TBH with you. I'd like Fukudome on this team a lot more so than somebody like Pierre.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 26, 2010 -> 02:58 PM) Mark Buehrle would also stink. His Xfip has been 4.61 (09), 4.1 (08), 4.6 (07), and 5.01 (06). Typically put, pitchers without a ton of strikeout stuff who are more the prototypical lefties are going to have a little higher statisitcal numbers, but that doesn't necessarily make them bad pitchers. I've watched a lot of Saunders and he isn't a bum. He is a league average pitcher who has been successful in the AL. Is he a stud, hell no, but would he look good in our rotation right now, yes. Buehrle's FIP stands at 3.93 this year, nearly 3/4 a run lower than Saunders'. Mark Buehrle has a career 4.16 FIP and a 4.23 xFIP. That's above average. That, along with his ability to eat lots of innings makes him a valuable pitcher capable of putting up 3-4 WAR annually. Joe Saunders is not that, not even close. And I'm not even sure I'd want Saunders over Hudson right now.