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Adding the best talent overall is the best way to do this. I hope they continue to do so. When their 1st round pick comes around in June, if the best player is a RHP, they should take him.

MLB.com Top 50 Draft Prospects: http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2017?list=draft

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Dec 14, 2016 -> 08:56 AM) Do they actually trade the funds or just he ability to spend the funds. I still do not see the White Sox spending any more money then they are comfortable with. They do not spend in free agency or internationally and will give nice contracts to players that give them a hometown discount. If this strategy is not changed I see no reason to believe they are going to spend the money doing things differently. This is similar to the Bears in that they spend enough to fulfill the criteria of spending but then short change the organization in other areas. Otani will end up the Yankees, Dodgers, cubs, Giants or Mariners. I disagree. Once they were given a draft pool to spend, they've chosen to spend the whole thing and even went over twice. The Sox will no doubt spend the entire $4.75 million they have for international prospects. They should acquire $3.5 million more though.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 14, 2016 -> 08:52 AM) Isn't the idea that teams will use some loophole - sign him for a modest amount, agree to DFA him after 1 year (or whatever it's called when you let a player go early in career, and he agrees to sign back for some predetermined massive amount? No idea but that's probably the only way around it and it will be heavily frowned upon if so.

This is what I posted in the other thread regarding the new rules: Here's the Baseball America (paywall) explanation from Ben Badler: http://www.baseballamerica.com/internation...hyAyO7IBYWtT.97 Clubs either get $5.75, $5.25, or $4.75 million to spend on international prospects under 25 per year. Teams can trade all of their bonus amounts but can only acquire 75% of their bonus pool in trade. Here are the amounts. $5.75 million Arizona Baltimore Cleveland Colorado Kansas City Pittsburgh St. Louis San Diego $5.25 million Cincinnati Miami Milwaukee Minnesota Oakland Tampa Bay $4.75 million Atlanta Boston Chicago Cubs Chicago White Sox Detroit Houston LA Angels LA Dodgers NYM NYY Philly San Francisco Seattle Texas Toronto Washington Players that cost $10,000 or less don't count against the pool. The following teams can't spend over $300,000 on a player because they are in the penalty from previous years: Cubs, Dodgers, Giants, Royals, Athletics, Astros, Braves, Cardinals, Nationals, Padres, and Reds. All of those teams can trade their full amounts however. The White Sox can trade for up to $3.5 million more in international money. This is absolutely something that they should be doing. White Sox can spend $8.3 million internationally if they trade for the maximum that they can. I'll be very curious to see if they do this.

Guys, I explained all of this in a thread last week that I started in Future Sox thread. Feel free to have a look. If Otani comes next summer, the most $$ that he can possibly from anyone is like $10 million. The most that a big market team can pay is $8.3 million. That's it. Those are the rules. And that would be an entire bonus pool minus guys making less than $10,000.00

Honestly, I'd take Jarlin Garcia and their competitive balance pick. That's like having an extra 2nd rounder. Sox would have 3 picks in the top 50.

QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Dec 13, 2016 -> 03:52 PM) http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/ml...e120496093.html At least one of the affiliates is already very happy with the new direction. The Charlotte lineup should have Yoan Moncada, Adam Engel, and Jacob May in it. The rotation will consist of Giolito, Lopez, and Fulmer with Clark and Burdi in the bullpen. Fun team.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 13, 2016 -> 04:28 PM) Just saw the draft order for the competitive balance portion of the draft was released. Marlins can always throw in their pick to a deal. I would love this idea. Acquiring that pick from them would be great.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 13, 2016 -> 11:38 AM) Have any recent Texas Tech quarterbacks had success in the NFL? A bit cautions about some of these "scheme" QBs in college, where anyone steps in and dominates. No they haven't. They are usually noodle armed guys though. Mahomes is way different. He's raw and will need to sit but he has the biggest arm in the class.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 13, 2016 -> 11:06 AM) Agreed. I think it'll come down to Washington and Miami for Robertson. I would not be shocked if Miami offered Garrett, Kolek, or Castillo for Robertson because Miami lol Miami has nothing to trade. They'll just sign Ziegler IMO

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 13, 2016 -> 11:01 AM) Trubinsky or Kizer and I'm good. If both go before 4, take best D available and go Mahomes in round 2 Agree with this. Kizer has the highest ceiling. Trubisky has only started 1 season and Watson is being over-analyzed.

There's no chance Otani is going to come over for $8 million. He'd get $200 million if he waits until his 25th birthday. That was leaked to see if MLB would change a rule. If they don't, we won't see him until 2019.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 13, 2016 -> 10:46 AM) im not saying it is right or if they are ready to do that, im just saying i think that is what Fox wants to do to preserve his job. And honestly if it is Romo(which seems to be gaining some momentum after Clayton just named the Bears as his #1 most likely destination), you might have your rookie QB starting before the end of the preseason. He is made of glass I actually think playing a young QB preserves your job more than signing a vet. If you draft a QB, you typically get time. If you sign a vet and he's bad, you typically get fired.

Ryan Pace is drafting a QB. Probably in the 1st round.

QUOTE (Deadpool @ Dec 12, 2016 -> 06:43 PM) Too many positions to fill not named "quarterback" and no good quarterback prospects. And before you say "Dak Prescott", know every team passed on him 4 times, including the Cowboys. No good QB's is bulls*** though. I like this year's class. I think Kizer, Trubisky, Watson are all better than Jared Goff and Mahomes might be as well. There isn't a Jameis or Mariota but I think it's a very solid group.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 13, 2016 -> 09:06 AM) With Bregman understandably off the table, any Q deal would absolutely start with Martes and Tucker...but I agree it would also take more Reed's value is certainly down, but he could be worth a gamble on? I really like Musgrove, but Houston seems unwilling to deal him and Martes Martes/Tucker/Reed/Stubbs would be a package I would consider if Musgrove was taken out I think Musgrove is maybe a #3 starter. Give me Tucker and Martes for sure. Then build the rest around Laureano, Stubbs, Reed, Perez, etc

QUOTE (Special K @ Dec 13, 2016 -> 08:53 AM) Do we get a comp. pick if Frazier walks at the end of the year? We could but it won't be until like after the 2nd round most likely.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 12, 2016 -> 06:25 PM) The headliner still equates to the majority of the value in the deal. I'm not trying to be argumentative...but stop and think what Q's value has been for the last 4 seasons. Now tell me what are the chances Torres ends up giving me that kind of value, projecting him as a 19 year old? MAYBE 25-30%? I kind of feel like it's a double headliner though. It's two top 50 prospects. Francis Martes looks like a TOR starter that is already at AA. Tucker is further away but ahs the potential to be one of these guys deemed untouchable one year from now. Houston has a ton of other high upside types like OF Ramon Laureano and RHP Franklin Perez.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 12, 2016 -> 05:26 PM) I have a hard time projecting 19 year old kids, to be honest with you. I totally downplay that. When you look at all the busts and the risks that could happen, especially with high school talent, its just get so freaking hard. We are trading a guy who is, if not elite, damn near elite, and under cost control for a very long time. I just can't justify it when the best guy we get is 19 with plenty of potential reasons for downside. Hell, he put up a .750 OPS in 2016 and in 63 games in 2015, put up a .647 OPS. No matter how good his tools are and how high of a pick he was, I just can't get that warm and fuzzy behind that piece. Remember, Courtney Hawkins put up a .804 OPS in his initial debut and was loaded with "tools". I do admit we are getting two quality pitchers as well...so I'm downplaying those aspects, but we need some dynamic position talent as well and I just don't really get that excited about the proposed package (because the arms aren't that great that it is worth ignoring "need"...if that makes sense). Courtney Hawkins didn't dream of a 70 hit tool.

QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Dec 12, 2016 -> 04:53 PM) I put Tucker ahead of Robles by a decent margin. Really on the level of about Giolito/Kopech in terms of his quality, perhaps a smidge above those two. I'm not saying he'll have this kind of career, because nobody ever really has, but he looks like Ted Williams in the batter's box. I'm not the first person to say that either. Tucker is a fine centerpiece to the deal and gives the Sox a monster corner OF prospect to lean on. I agree. Tucker has like a 70 hit tool. He's the kind of piece that could easily be a top 15 prospect in baseball at this time next year. Martes has TOR potential and could be in 2018 rotation.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 12, 2016 -> 02:03 PM) Is that guy reputable? I would think so. He's the Nationals Pre and Post Game host for MASN

QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Dec 12, 2016 -> 01:55 PM) Just hold Robertson. I have a feeling he's got a rack up a ton of garbage time innings where teams just want to go home after already pasting a hapless Sox starter (assuming Q is dealt) and have nearly the same value the Yankees duo had this past season. If Rizzo has malfunction and actually offers Robles for him sure, go ahead and make that deal but barring an unrealistically stupid offer there's no point in dealing Robertson right now. I want to deal Robertson now. Then you let Jones close and dominate and deal him at midseason.

QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Dec 12, 2016 -> 01:51 PM) Not surprised. That extension thing was never for real. He signed a contract extension. Fisher agreed to it in preseason and finally signed it recently.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 12, 2016 -> 12:30 PM) Good post. I do want to point out something, though - regarding starting guys like Montas, the White Sox will often have a handful of relief prospects starting in any given season. And the primary reason, I am told, is that they want them to get more reps and more innings to improve their non-fastball repertoires. You'll see them start for a season or two, then go back to the bullpen. Guys who are relievers that are in the system now who did that include Brad Goldberg, Matt Cooper, Brian Clark, Andre Wheeler and more. I know having spoken with some folks that those guys, the club knew there was a 95% chance they were relievers, but put them in that starting internship anyway. One exception - they did this with Chris Bassitt too, but he turned out to be in the 5%. Which is another, smaller reason to do it. I wouldn't be surprised if Diaz is in the starting rotation at Winston Salem. They could fast track him out of the bullpen though. Burdi, Diaz, and Ian Hamilton are all guys that could move really quickly.