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I looked at an Astros board earlier and someone suggested Martes, Tucker, Fisher, and Reed. I'd probably do that.

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Jan 19, 2017 -> 03:06 PM) Keith Law has Arizona as #30. Marlins at 29, Angels at 27. I've established this. With that Marlins trade, if he were to redo it, they'd be 30.

Pipeline has begun releasing their top 10 prospects at each position for a series they do. Here is the RHP: http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2017?list=rhp #3 Lucas Giolito, #4 Michael Kopech, and #10 Reynaldo Lopez Top 10 LHP Prospects: http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2017?list=lhp Top 10 catchers: http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2017?list=c Zack Collins is #4

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 11:30 PM) This makes sense. The way the team is a month before spring training we have TOO many veterans to be in a rebuild. Our infield is amazing. Our outfield is pathetic. Our catching is pathetic. Our DH is pathetic. Our pitching however is good. Frazier/Davidson, Anderson, Saladino/Lawrie, Abreu is amazing?

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jan 19, 2017 -> 11:04 AM) Angels are the worst. Detroit is up there too. Marlins are pretty clearly 30th now IMO.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jan 19, 2017 -> 11:07 AM) 10.) Mets 9.) Reds 8.) Padres 7.) Brewers 6.) Rockies 5.) Pirates 4.) Yankees 3.) White Sox 2.) Dodgers 1.) Braves My novice, bulls***ting thoughts on the remaining ten teams. No idea how Law can have the Mets in top ten. I know he likes Dom Smith and Amed Rosario but jeez. I bet he has: 10. Mets 9. Reds 8. Rockies 7. Dodgers 6. Padres 5. Brewers 4. White Sox 3. Pirates 2. Yankees 1. Braves

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jan 19, 2017 -> 10:57 AM) People are excited about this return when they see #5 and #9 prospect for a pitcher the Reds got off the scrap heap but the Marlins system sucks. I know Law had his org rankings come out yesterday and I'd bet Marlins were 27ish. This is an awesome trade for Cinci regardless. Castillo is a great get for Straily. Marlins paid dearly for a cheap starter's control but I am just not sure Straily is all that good. I guess Miami's insulated playing in their park in the NL. Straily's stats from 2016 are an example of how understanding advanced metrics really gives you a better idea of how a pitcher performed. Straily led the NL in HRs allowed. I checked bball-ref and His ERA was only 3.76 ERA despite giving up 1.5 HR/9. So you think, wow, he had to get lucky somewhere else to keep his ERA that low with all the homers given up. Go over to FanGraphs, Straily had the second lowest BABIP for all qualified starters in the MLB. Also had the sixth lowest strand rate in the MLB. Despite leading the league in HRs allowed, Straily HR/FB% was a touch below league average. Getting traded to Miami is absolutely huge for Straily. He was in for a rude awakening if he stayed in Cinci. He had the Marlins at 29 with Arizona 30. Miami would clearly be #30 right now after this trade.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 19, 2017 -> 10:38 AM) Wow, very strange to see Cubs/Boston/Astros out of top ten (even if you know why). Interested to hear what Law has to say about Jiminez and Happ, Fangraphs has been so high on Jiminez' power that I would have thought those two would pull the ship higher. It obviously leaves: Braves, Yankees, Pirates, White Sox, Reds, Brewers, Rockies, Padres, Mets, and Dodgers in the top 10.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jan 19, 2017 -> 09:13 AM) Very true http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2687747...culation/page/5 This is from bleacher report today and suggests a Pirates offer of: Meadows + Glasnow + Diaz might work for both sides It suggests the White Sox will ask for Meadows + Glasnow + Keller, but the Pirates would be unwilling to part with that much. They could offer the lower tier Diaz instead to round out the package and fill in a platoon catcher option for the Sox. I'd love a Meadows + Glasnow + Newman deal Of course you would. Meadows, Glasnow and Newman is more than they got for Sale and Eaton.

http://www.espn.com/blog/keith-law/insider/post?id=6115 Here are 11-20: 11. Minnesota 12. Houston 13. St. Louis 14. Philadelphia 15. Texas 16. Boston 17. Cleveland 18. Cubs 19. Tampa Bay 20. San Francisco

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 09:55 PM) Law had the Sox at 12 or 15 - something like that - 2 years ago. We went backwards the next year, per his rankings He likes Hahn. I would imagine that the Sox will be in the 6-10 range on Law's rankings.

QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 06:03 PM) Damn they are going to meter the release of this over 10 days and put it behind a paywall, could ESPN be any more out of touch? Insider isn't very expensive with a magazine subscription

QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 03:57 PM) Interesting to see what the strategy is whether you try to use all $4mil+ on 1 player, or divide it up into a few, etc. I would think it would be dispersed. Spending it all on 1 16 year old is pretty stupid. I really just hope that they acquire the extra $3.5 million to spend.

QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 04:05 PM) somebody remind me again why we get the same amount as the Cubs? Chicago market.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 03:46 PM) I wouldn't mind Valbuena as a signing. I think he can play 3b/DH so we can have days rotating lawrie/Saladino at 2b/3b, and rotate our OF with Garcia going to DH. Have Matt Davidson as a potential option as well

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 02:33 PM) As one of the last holdovers, I want to point out, that the more I look at the free agent market, etc, the more open I become towards the idea of tanking. I don't think the Celtics alone can provide the package we want, but they are probably the best destination spot for a Buckets trade (not saying we need to do it now, although you could), mainly because if I moved Butler, I'd want lots of high picks plus young players with lots of time left on cheap contracts. I hate the idea of giving up Butler, cause he's so freaking good and so cheap, but if we got the right offer, I'd be 100% on board at this point. Boston has young assets: Crowder, Smart, Bradley, Jaylen Brown. They also have Nets 1st this year in a swap. Also have Brooklyn's #1 pick in 2018 and LAC and Memphis' 1st round picks in 2019. If Boston wants Jimmy Butler, they can absolutely get it done. They need to pony up though.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 02:21 PM) It will be so interesting when the first trade for int'l space goes down. I have to believe the first time it will be a pot sweetener because teams will be so unsure of value going in. Remember though, they can't trade for space until after July 2nd. There's a solid chance that the Sox have agreements with guys and don't officially get the $$ to sign immediately. They can acquire space from July 2nd until June 15th 2018 I believe. I agree with you though that it should be interesting.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 02:25 PM) The question is, do we sit out this summer and wait and see if Otani is coming over for sure or not in the winter? I haven't seen any confirmation that he is definitely coming. He's not coming under these rules. He can wait until he turns 25 and get paid $200 million. I believe Sox will be linked to players for this period. Probably already have agreements. Should start hearing about them in February. Under the new system, it also doesn't make sense to "sit out". Sox should spend their guaranteed $4.75 million every season and try to get up to $8.3 million total to spend.

QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 01:39 PM) As someone who isn't as up to date on the nuances of the international FA market, can someone give me a brief summary on the White Sox's position for the '17 signing period? Do they have their full allotted money? Is this expected to be a good class? Looking back I noticed a few teams went all in and signed prospects to bigger $ deals, is this something we could expect to see out of the Sox? I posted this a few weeks back: Here's the Baseball America (paywall) explanation from Ben Badler: http://www.baseballamerica.com/internation...hyAyO7IBYWtT.97 Clubs either get $5.75, $5.25, or $4.75 million to spend on international prospects under 25 per year. Teams can trade all of their bonus amounts but can only acquire 75% of their bonus pool in trade. Here are the amounts. $5.75 million Arizona Baltimore Cleveland Colorado Kansas City Pittsburgh St. Louis San Diego $5.25 million Cincinnati Miami Milwaukee Minnesota Oakland Tampa Bay $4.75 million Atlanta Boston Chicago Cubs Chicago White Sox Detroit Houston LA Angels LA Dodgers NYM NYY Philly San Francisco Seattle Texas Toronto Washington Players that cost $10,000 or less don't count against the pool. The following teams can't spend over $300,000 on a player because they are in the penalty from previous years: Cubs, Dodgers, Giants, Royals, Athletics, Astros, Braves, Cardinals, Nationals, Padres, and Reds. All of those teams can trade their full amounts however. The White Sox can trade for up to $3.5 million more in international money. This is absolutely something that they should be doing. White Sox can spend $8.3 million internationally if they trade for the maximum that they can. I'll be very curious to see if they do this.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 09:08 AM) This only happens because Carlos Rodon was otherworldly as a sophomore and couldn't possibly live up to the expectations place on him. Sox were lucky to pick third that year. Damn lucky Miami was picking 2nd too. It's nice to pick #1 of course, but obviously. a lot can happen obviously. What's cool is the year the Sox should have their highest pick for a long time there (perhaps other than 2014) is such a big prospect in Beer up there. Aren't there multiple guys worthy in the 2018 draft? It's a good year to suck, right?

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 08:03 AM) Sure, if we move Quitana & Frazier we might have a shot at challenging the Padres, but it doesn't seem likely we'll move Todd before the season. I think you're underestimating how bad the Padres will actually be next year. Sox are a bottom 5 team with Frazier IMO. Quintana is going. If he doesn't, this team traded their 2 best players and will continue to purge.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 06:44 AM) Team is not nearly bad enough to get into the Beer mix as it stands today. It's about a 70 win team. Once Q and Frazier go, you are looking at 65 win territory. I expect other guys to move as season goes along. San Diego will be awful but Sox should be right in that top 5 mix. Seth Beer has 2 seasons still before he can even be drafted. People are going a little overboard. We have the 2017 draft, international period, trade deadline, and offseason before we even get to worry about Seth Beer. It's a bit ridiculous. You're also overrating current roster. This is a bad team that won't be able to score runs.

QUOTE (Sox-35th @ Jan 17, 2017 -> 03:24 PM) That's the status quo for the Score much of the time now. As it should be. Nobody cares about hockey and the Cubs are the best organization in town other than the Hawks and happen to play their games on that station. They will ramp up Bears draft coverage soon but what else are they supposed to talk about it?

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jan 17, 2017 -> 12:41 PM) I'll bet the house the 49ers are still regretting passing on him. Lets just leave it at that. Some teams also drafted on need at that time, not BPA. Hell, some still do. They would have played him right away and he wouldn't have been anywhere near as good though. Rodgers needed a ton of mechanical work to turn into what he has.