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QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 03:39 PM) Not pasting any of the commentary since it's for Insider subscribers... 100. Brandon Woodruff, RHP, Milwaukee Brewers 99. Robert Stephenson, RHP, Cincinnati Reds 98. Sam Travis, 1B, Boston Red Sox 97. Alex Kirilloff, OF, Minnesota Twins 96. Jeff Hoffman, RHP, Colorado Rockies 95. Zack Collins, C, Chicago White Sox 94. Luis Castillo, RHP, Cincinnati Reds 93. A.J. Puk, LHP, Oakland Athletics 92. Christin Stewart, OF, Detroit Tigers 91. Stephen Gonsalves, LHP, Minnesota Twins 90. Jahmai Jones, OF, Los Angeles Angels 89. Jack Flaherty, RHP, St. Louis Cardinals 88. Justus Sheffield, LHP, New York Yankees 87. Kohl Stewart, RHP, Minnesota Twins 86. Dylan Cease, RHP, Chicago Cubs 85. Triston McKenzie, RHP, Cleveland Indians 84. Justin Dunn, RHP, New York Mets 83. Riley Pint, RHP, Colorado Rockies 82. Matt Manning, RHP, Detroit Tigers 81. Sean Newcomb, LHP, Atlanta Braves 80. Adrian Morejon LHP San Diego 79. Luis Ortiz RHP Milwaukee 78. Forrest Whitley RHP Houston 77. Luiz Gohara LHP Atlanta 76. Robert Gsellman RHP NYM 75. Yohander Mendez LHP Texas 74. Ke'Bryan Hayes 3B Pittsburgh 73. Jose De Leon RHP Tampa Bay 72. Sean Reid-Foley RHP Toronto 71. Josh Hader LHP Milwaukee 70. Lucas Erceg 3B Milwaukee 69. Chance Sisco C Baltimore 68. Kyle Lewis OF Seattle 67. Trent Clark OF Milwaukee 66. Franklin Perez RHP Houston 65. Fernando Romero RHP Minnesota 64. Ariel Jurado RHP Texas 63. Ian Happ 2B CHC 62. Tyler Beede RHP San Francisco 61. Delvin Perez SS St. Louis

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jan 24, 2017 -> 09:38 AM) Yeah Thomas apparently got rejected by admissions and if what the Scout writers were saying about his transcripts are true, he isn't going anywhere. He'll go to JUCO and dominate and then be in the SEC or ACC.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jan 24, 2017 -> 10:06 AM) How could you include Hickhman? He didn't make my top 50. Will he not be healthy and pitching finally?

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 24, 2017 -> 10:00 AM) This is a good point. He was added as we were making the lists, so he may not have been in scope for everyone as they built lists that became our discussion points as a group. He's definitely a guy worth considering. I'm not sure he's any good but he probably belongs on just missed over Courtney Hawkins lol.

I've heard that a few of mine aren't even in the FutureSox top 45. Here we go: 1. Yoan Moncada 2B 2. Lucas Giolito RHP 3. Michael Kopech RHP 4. Zack Collins C 5. Reynaldo Lopez RHP 6. Alec Hansen RHP 7. Carson Fulmer RHP 8. Luis Alexander Basabe CF 9. Dane Dunning RHP 10. Zack Burdi RHP 11. Spencer Adams RHP 12. Charlie Tilson CF 13. Jordan Stephens RHP 14. Adam Engel OF 15. Jameson Fisher OF 16. Amado Nunez IF 17. Jordan Guerrero LHP 18. Trey Michalczewski 3B 19. Luis Curbelo IF 20. Alex Call OF 21. Micker Adolfo OF 22. Bernardo Flores LHP 23. Brian Clark LHP 24. Jake Peter Utility 25. Matt Davidson 3B 26. Dylan Covey RHP 27. Ian Hamilton RHP 28. Corey Zangari 1B 29. Victor Diaz RHP 30. Blake Hickman RHP I've seen no mention of Willy Garcia anywhere. Kind of surprising.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 24, 2017 -> 07:57 AM) This week, FutureSox will be releasing our new Top 30 White Sox Prospects list. For those unfamiliar, we do these lists twice a year, in January/February and July/August. Usually we release in 2 parts - 16-30, then the full list. But this year, because the system is the deepest it's been in over a decade, we added a third layer. Here is a list of 15 prospects we (the writers at FS) discussed for consideration, but who just missed the Top 30. It's kind of amazing to see that these are real prospects. There are a few names here I'm sure some of you assumed would make the T30. Who is on this list that you thought for sure would be in, or should be in, the Top 30? What are your thoughts on these 15 guys? FYI: Tomorrow we post 16-30, and Thursday will be the full list. I wouldn't have Eddy Alvarez on there but I expect to see him.

http://herosports.com/mlb-draft/2017-top-1...elton-gigliotti

QUOTE (CWSpalehoseCWS @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 04:38 PM) Same here. Especially Peter. You'd think he could easily beat out Leury Garcia for a super-utility role. Frazier,Anderson, Saladino, Sanchez, Lawrie, Everth Cabrera, Davidson, Asche, and Leury could all play 3B, SS, or 2B.

I wish bucket were around to just drop any info at all.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 01:48 PM) Agreed on Bummer. If I ever knew his name, I forgot it. He's a lefty. 59 in camp as of now. 32 pitchers (11 lefties) 6 catchers 11 infielders 10 outfielders (Asche and Leury listed as OF) http://m.whitesox.mlb.com/roster/40-man/ Bummer has been injured a lot. He was an overslot 19th rounder a few years back. Throws really hard

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 11:34 AM) Why would anyone even argue? Unless you know exactly what has been turned down, you have nothing to argue about. As far as I can tell, not one poster here has any idea what the White Sox have said no to yet. But there are huge problems. It's ridiculous. And this is where I agree with Dick Allen.

QUOTE (peavy44 @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 09:33 AM) well astros are out and looks like pirates too. The Astros are out because their GM said so? We have no idea who is out and who isn't.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 09:46 AM) Law's evaluations of bats have been as good as any publication writer over the internet age. He's outstanding. If I like a guy (on the position side) and then I hear Law likes him, I'll dive in and usually come out looking good. Law's evaluations of pitchers is almost like punching in numbers into a system. Under 6'1"? Under 185? Automatic reliever. 6'3"+ but very thin frame? Automatic reliever. Throws hard with bad mechanics? Automatic reliever. Law wants every pitcher to be 6'4" 215 lbs with perfect mechanics. I just don't think mechanics are as predictable as Law's writeups would give credence to. It's not even like he would argue that but he just bets on the workhorse bodies and does his presumptuous, writing-off of any guy who doesn't apply. Frankly, it's not the worst strategy given the tough task that Law has to do but at the same time, he knows some of these unconventional deliver/smaller body guys are going to work out and they're going to keep making him like bad (See Sale, See Carlos Martinez, Hopefully see Reynaldo Lopez). Completely agree here.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 09:44 AM) That's an insult to 13 year old girls. My wife's students put together far more coherent arguments. I teach junior high as well. He sounds just like them when trying to prove how popular he is.

It's good to know that we elected a 13 year old girl as President of the United States. This should end well.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 09:00 AM) In a major upset, Moncada is number 1 at 2nd http://m.mlb.com/news/article/213958338/20...picid=151437456 It's hindsight for sure but I wish the Sox took Ian Happ instead of Fulmer.

QUOTE (peavy44 @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 09:30 AM) Will royals go after Jose Quintana with ventura passing. They don't have the prospects to acquire Quintana if they wanted him.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 09:12 AM) I see that offer as a depth package, but one with fairly limited upside Newman's value is tied to him sticking at SS, which is no guaranty with Tim Anderson at the position right now. Sox likely want to keep Moncada at 2B, and I do not like how Newman's bat profiles at 2B or 3B with the lack of power. 50 FV at SS/45 FV if he has to move positions. Hayes is a long ways off the majors, but I don't hate him as a final piece 50 FV, I'd go 45 FV at this point due to how far from the bigs he is. Glasnow is a great second piece in a Quintana deal, but his control issues make him far too risky to headline on his own. 55 FV Keller had a great 2016 season, but forearm issues have me concerned. He has mid rotation potential, but is a ways off the mlb. 55 FV Meadows is the gem of the Pirates system right now and would need to be packaged with Glasnow to headline a Quintana deal I could argue that Meadows and Glasnow is a better haul than the Sale deal. No chance that happens for Q IMO.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 09:17 AM) Law doesn't think favorably of any White Sox prospect. That's not true.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 08:48 AM) You can forget Hansen and probably even Fulmer in the Top 100 if Collins is so low. Same with Burdi. Not sure what his opinion on Basabe is? I wouldn't be stunned to see Hansen in the just missed portion. He's a big fan. Fulmer and Burdi won't be in there because he thinks they are relievers. He thinks Lopez is too though.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 08:52 AM) As I pointed above, Rumbunter never hinted or suggested that the above package is the offer Hahn recently rejected. Yes he did. I pressed him about it last night. My handle is JamesFox917. I suggested that as the package and he liked it on twitter. Those are the names being bandied about. He just can't confirm it. Honestly, I'd probably consider Glasnow, Keller, Newman, and Hayes if they added their Competitive Balance pick. That's 3 top 50 prospects, a young 3B that can hit and a 2nd round pick.

http://www.espn.com/blog/keith-law/insider/post?id=6172 Keith started with 81-100 today. He had Zack Collins at 95 Zack Collins, C, Chicago White Sox Age: 22 (2/6/95) | B/T: L/R Height: 6-3 | Weight: 220 Top level: High-A | 2016: NE The White Sox think Zack Collins can catch, and sent him out as a catcher right to the High-A Carolina League after drafting him out of the University of Miami with the 10th overall pick, making him one of only two college bats from last year's draft to go straight to High-A. I don't think Collins, already big for the position and not that agile, will make it to the majors as a catcher, but I do think he can really hit, and do so with power and some on-base ability, so it might not matter in the end. When Collins keeps his swing controlled, he's short to the zone and explodes quickly from where he loads, with plenty of natural angle in his finish to hit for power, but he does get a little homer-happy and then his swing becomes unnecessarily long. His pro debut went better than anyone could have expected, with a lot of strikeouts but a .258/.418/.467 line that would have placed him among the league leaders in OBP and slugging. There is absolutely some extra value in having this kind of bat behind the plate, but if Collins' bat is as advanced as I think it is, he might hit his way off the position this year.

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Jan 20, 2017 -> 11:25 PM) Surprised to see the Sox in at #10. We all figured top 5. Monday starts his top 100 ranking. Wondering if that's where we see Fulmer, Collins, maybe Burdi or Hansen. I doubt Burdi or Fulmer is in his top 100. He'll have Moncada, Kopech, Giolito, Collins, and probably Lopez in there for sure. I bet he has Hansen too.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Jan 20, 2017 -> 09:59 PM) Yes. That last sentence is key. Appearing eager or desperate would cost me money in the real world every day. Every damn day. The problem for Hahn is that he's shown he doesn't plan on competing in 2017 by trading Sale & Eaton. So other GMs smell blood in the water right now, January 20th. But that all changes the minute a team feels the pressure to need a TOR starter on a cheap contract. They will have to cave. It's not an IF but a WHEN. Patience Sox fans. This is how all deals in all industries are done. If you have the rare, coveted supply the demand will find you, always. Great post. I love your supply and demand quote and I'll probably steal it and use for myself.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 19, 2017 -> 05:44 PM) I'm torn on trading Butler. Historically the return from trading superstars has been pretty s***ty, and you are looking at once again turning Chicago into the last place any FA is going to want to go. On the other hand, this team defines mediocrity f*** you Gar There will rarely be free agents anymore of significance with the changes to the salary cap.