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QUOTE (peavy44 @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 09:30 AM) Will royals go after Jose Quintana with ventura passing. They don't have the prospects to acquire Quintana if they wanted him.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 09:12 AM) I see that offer as a depth package, but one with fairly limited upside Newman's value is tied to him sticking at SS, which is no guaranty with Tim Anderson at the position right now. Sox likely want to keep Moncada at 2B, and I do not like how Newman's bat profiles at 2B or 3B with the lack of power. 50 FV at SS/45 FV if he has to move positions. Hayes is a long ways off the majors, but I don't hate him as a final piece 50 FV, I'd go 45 FV at this point due to how far from the bigs he is. Glasnow is a great second piece in a Quintana deal, but his control issues make him far too risky to headline on his own. 55 FV Keller had a great 2016 season, but forearm issues have me concerned. He has mid rotation potential, but is a ways off the mlb. 55 FV Meadows is the gem of the Pirates system right now and would need to be packaged with Glasnow to headline a Quintana deal I could argue that Meadows and Glasnow is a better haul than the Sale deal. No chance that happens for Q IMO.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 09:17 AM) Law doesn't think favorably of any White Sox prospect. That's not true.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 08:48 AM) You can forget Hansen and probably even Fulmer in the Top 100 if Collins is so low. Same with Burdi. Not sure what his opinion on Basabe is? I wouldn't be stunned to see Hansen in the just missed portion. He's a big fan. Fulmer and Burdi won't be in there because he thinks they are relievers. He thinks Lopez is too though.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 08:52 AM) As I pointed above, Rumbunter never hinted or suggested that the above package is the offer Hahn recently rejected. Yes he did. I pressed him about it last night. My handle is JamesFox917. I suggested that as the package and he liked it on twitter. Those are the names being bandied about. He just can't confirm it. Honestly, I'd probably consider Glasnow, Keller, Newman, and Hayes if they added their Competitive Balance pick. That's 3 top 50 prospects, a young 3B that can hit and a 2nd round pick.

http://www.espn.com/blog/keith-law/insider/post?id=6172 Keith started with 81-100 today. He had Zack Collins at 95 Zack Collins, C, Chicago White Sox Age: 22 (2/6/95) | B/T: L/R Height: 6-3 | Weight: 220 Top level: High-A | 2016: NE The White Sox think Zack Collins can catch, and sent him out as a catcher right to the High-A Carolina League after drafting him out of the University of Miami with the 10th overall pick, making him one of only two college bats from last year's draft to go straight to High-A. I don't think Collins, already big for the position and not that agile, will make it to the majors as a catcher, but I do think he can really hit, and do so with power and some on-base ability, so it might not matter in the end. When Collins keeps his swing controlled, he's short to the zone and explodes quickly from where he loads, with plenty of natural angle in his finish to hit for power, but he does get a little homer-happy and then his swing becomes unnecessarily long. His pro debut went better than anyone could have expected, with a lot of strikeouts but a .258/.418/.467 line that would have placed him among the league leaders in OBP and slugging. There is absolutely some extra value in having this kind of bat behind the plate, but if Collins' bat is as advanced as I think it is, he might hit his way off the position this year.

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Jan 20, 2017 -> 11:25 PM) Surprised to see the Sox in at #10. We all figured top 5. Monday starts his top 100 ranking. Wondering if that's where we see Fulmer, Collins, maybe Burdi or Hansen. I doubt Burdi or Fulmer is in his top 100. He'll have Moncada, Kopech, Giolito, Collins, and probably Lopez in there for sure. I bet he has Hansen too.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Jan 20, 2017 -> 09:59 PM) Yes. That last sentence is key. Appearing eager or desperate would cost me money in the real world every day. Every damn day. The problem for Hahn is that he's shown he doesn't plan on competing in 2017 by trading Sale & Eaton. So other GMs smell blood in the water right now, January 20th. But that all changes the minute a team feels the pressure to need a TOR starter on a cheap contract. They will have to cave. It's not an IF but a WHEN. Patience Sox fans. This is how all deals in all industries are done. If you have the rare, coveted supply the demand will find you, always. Great post. I love your supply and demand quote and I'll probably steal it and use for myself.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 19, 2017 -> 05:44 PM) I'm torn on trading Butler. Historically the return from trading superstars has been pretty s***ty, and you are looking at once again turning Chicago into the last place any FA is going to want to go. On the other hand, this team defines mediocrity f*** you Gar There will rarely be free agents anymore of significance with the changes to the salary cap.

I looked at an Astros board earlier and someone suggested Martes, Tucker, Fisher, and Reed. I'd probably do that.

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Jan 19, 2017 -> 03:06 PM) Keith Law has Arizona as #30. Marlins at 29, Angels at 27. I've established this. With that Marlins trade, if he were to redo it, they'd be 30.

Pipeline has begun releasing their top 10 prospects at each position for a series they do. Here is the RHP: http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2017?list=rhp #3 Lucas Giolito, #4 Michael Kopech, and #10 Reynaldo Lopez Top 10 LHP Prospects: http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2017?list=lhp Top 10 catchers: http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2017?list=c Zack Collins is #4

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 11:30 PM) This makes sense. The way the team is a month before spring training we have TOO many veterans to be in a rebuild. Our infield is amazing. Our outfield is pathetic. Our catching is pathetic. Our DH is pathetic. Our pitching however is good. Frazier/Davidson, Anderson, Saladino/Lawrie, Abreu is amazing?

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jan 19, 2017 -> 11:04 AM) Angels are the worst. Detroit is up there too. Marlins are pretty clearly 30th now IMO.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jan 19, 2017 -> 11:07 AM) 10.) Mets 9.) Reds 8.) Padres 7.) Brewers 6.) Rockies 5.) Pirates 4.) Yankees 3.) White Sox 2.) Dodgers 1.) Braves My novice, bulls***ting thoughts on the remaining ten teams. No idea how Law can have the Mets in top ten. I know he likes Dom Smith and Amed Rosario but jeez. I bet he has: 10. Mets 9. Reds 8. Rockies 7. Dodgers 6. Padres 5. Brewers 4. White Sox 3. Pirates 2. Yankees 1. Braves

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jan 19, 2017 -> 10:57 AM) People are excited about this return when they see #5 and #9 prospect for a pitcher the Reds got off the scrap heap but the Marlins system sucks. I know Law had his org rankings come out yesterday and I'd bet Marlins were 27ish. This is an awesome trade for Cinci regardless. Castillo is a great get for Straily. Marlins paid dearly for a cheap starter's control but I am just not sure Straily is all that good. I guess Miami's insulated playing in their park in the NL. Straily's stats from 2016 are an example of how understanding advanced metrics really gives you a better idea of how a pitcher performed. Straily led the NL in HRs allowed. I checked bball-ref and His ERA was only 3.76 ERA despite giving up 1.5 HR/9. So you think, wow, he had to get lucky somewhere else to keep his ERA that low with all the homers given up. Go over to FanGraphs, Straily had the second lowest BABIP for all qualified starters in the MLB. Also had the sixth lowest strand rate in the MLB. Despite leading the league in HRs allowed, Straily HR/FB% was a touch below league average. Getting traded to Miami is absolutely huge for Straily. He was in for a rude awakening if he stayed in Cinci. He had the Marlins at 29 with Arizona 30. Miami would clearly be #30 right now after this trade.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 19, 2017 -> 10:38 AM) Wow, very strange to see Cubs/Boston/Astros out of top ten (even if you know why). Interested to hear what Law has to say about Jiminez and Happ, Fangraphs has been so high on Jiminez' power that I would have thought those two would pull the ship higher. It obviously leaves: Braves, Yankees, Pirates, White Sox, Reds, Brewers, Rockies, Padres, Mets, and Dodgers in the top 10.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jan 19, 2017 -> 09:13 AM) Very true http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2687747...culation/page/5 This is from bleacher report today and suggests a Pirates offer of: Meadows + Glasnow + Diaz might work for both sides It suggests the White Sox will ask for Meadows + Glasnow + Keller, but the Pirates would be unwilling to part with that much. They could offer the lower tier Diaz instead to round out the package and fill in a platoon catcher option for the Sox. I'd love a Meadows + Glasnow + Newman deal Of course you would. Meadows, Glasnow and Newman is more than they got for Sale and Eaton.

http://www.espn.com/blog/keith-law/insider/post?id=6115 Here are 11-20: 11. Minnesota 12. Houston 13. St. Louis 14. Philadelphia 15. Texas 16. Boston 17. Cleveland 18. Cubs 19. Tampa Bay 20. San Francisco

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 09:55 PM) Law had the Sox at 12 or 15 - something like that - 2 years ago. We went backwards the next year, per his rankings He likes Hahn. I would imagine that the Sox will be in the 6-10 range on Law's rankings.

QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 06:03 PM) Damn they are going to meter the release of this over 10 days and put it behind a paywall, could ESPN be any more out of touch? Insider isn't very expensive with a magazine subscription

QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 03:57 PM) Interesting to see what the strategy is whether you try to use all $4mil+ on 1 player, or divide it up into a few, etc. I would think it would be dispersed. Spending it all on 1 16 year old is pretty stupid. I really just hope that they acquire the extra $3.5 million to spend.

QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 04:05 PM) somebody remind me again why we get the same amount as the Cubs? Chicago market.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 03:46 PM) I wouldn't mind Valbuena as a signing. I think he can play 3b/DH so we can have days rotating lawrie/Saladino at 2b/3b, and rotate our OF with Garcia going to DH. Have Matt Davidson as a potential option as well

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 02:33 PM) As one of the last holdovers, I want to point out, that the more I look at the free agent market, etc, the more open I become towards the idea of tanking. I don't think the Celtics alone can provide the package we want, but they are probably the best destination spot for a Buckets trade (not saying we need to do it now, although you could), mainly because if I moved Butler, I'd want lots of high picks plus young players with lots of time left on cheap contracts. I hate the idea of giving up Butler, cause he's so freaking good and so cheap, but if we got the right offer, I'd be 100% on board at this point. Boston has young assets: Crowder, Smart, Bradley, Jaylen Brown. They also have Nets 1st this year in a swap. Also have Brooklyn's #1 pick in 2018 and LAC and Memphis' 1st round picks in 2019. If Boston wants Jimmy Butler, they can absolutely get it done. They need to pony up though.