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QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Oct 19, 2016 -> 03:20 PM) Rice should visit you in week two with the winner hosting Loyola. early 2000's Rice Lockport seemed to happen for a few years straight Palatine and Barrington meet up in quarters Marist gets Oswego again, still don't think oswego is any good same as last year. Then HF has to travel to Marist in quarters. Mount Carmel gets a tough draw but getting ESL in 2nd round at home could help. Did you see the thread about the "freeloaders" at taht site? I find that funny becasue we are all freeloaders here. Oh trust me, we know. I was on the 2003 title team at Lockport. We beat BR in the semis that year. I did see that about the freeloaders. I can figure out 8A on my own, the only thing difficult is the 5-4 teams. Seems like if everything holds, Maine South is the smallest school in the 8A field.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Oct 19, 2016 -> 02:30 PM) This is something I'd agree with in the past, but since it hasn't been working, they either need to go all in (for once) or sell, and it annoys me that we're *reportedly* trying to half-ass it again (or, at least, we were in July). I've seen nothing that suggests they are half-assing it again. I think they are rebuilding.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 19, 2016 -> 01:05 PM) Damn it would have been nice to win 7A. Was Rice ever 7A before? We're not going to win at LWE or on the road against anybody elite in the playoffs I don't think. Rice is great, don't get me wrong, but the fact Rita scored that many points again proved we're average on defense, excellent on offense. Do all those good playoff teams run the spread or are some old school high school offenses. Steve Soucie's projections are right here: https://edgytim.forums.rivals.com/threads/f...ons-here.11438/

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Oct 19, 2016 -> 10:51 AM) I don't get why our FO doesn't want to do a normal rebuild. The half-and-half thing is not going to work. We all know how half-buying has worked for us, why would half-selling be any different? If we trade Sale to Boston, there's no need to require Bradley over Benintendi, as taking Bradley would definitely diminish the rest of the return. Benintendi will be better than Bradley, IMO. Well they don't because most teams with a core of Sale, Quintana, Rodon, Eaton, Abreu, and Anderson wouldn't be rebuilding. They don't spend real $$ though and don't have prospects to trade. That's the rub.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 19, 2016 -> 12:37 AM) Harry are you going to the game? If I ever come in for a game do you want to go? Football or Bobby Frasor ball? That's neat you say we should make the quarters at least. You are right about the traffic. I remember one time we drove to Loyola land for a cross country meet on a Friday and it sucked. That was the day three Loyola guys finished ahead of me in a big meet and I got fifth. I thought I was gonna get a big hug from the coach, instead he threw me against a tree yelling at me. I forgot that if one team has three guys finish ahead of a school, it automatically beats that school. The coach reminded me if I had beaten one of the Loyola guys we'd have won the fricking meet. Later I'll tell the story of the city league meet and what a bummer that was. LOL. GO BRO RICE! Winner of Brother Rice vs Loyola will be #1 in 8A playoffs. The loser is most likely the #9 seed. 1 of Loyola/BR, Palatine, Hinsdale Central, St. Charles East, Neuqua Valley, HF, Oswego, and West Aurora should all be 9-0

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 18, 2016 -> 09:08 PM) This. That whole idea about finding the "next big thing" or a market niche to be exploited. The Royals created that idea of loading up the back of the bullpen. Everyone copied it and now 7th and 8th inning set-up guys (Giles/Miller/Herrera, etc.) are becoming just as valuable as the traditional 30/100 everyday players because of specialization. If Getz was presenting some type of "grand vision" for changing the way the organization does things, that would be one thing. Kapler came on board with a glittery press conference. I'm not sure anyone noticed the Getz hiring outside of insider baseball circles and the industry itself. Maybe Phil Rogers can be convinced to write an article, but even that's doubtful. Well they haven't actually hired him yet though. No press release or anything. I'm sure Hahn will at least have quotes about it. It was reported by Merkin and then Sox never confirmed.

QUOTE (Brian @ Oct 18, 2016 -> 12:45 PM) OReilly maybe a knob at times but he doesn't take himself too seriously like Hannity and others do. I love when you post now Brian because of your new avatar.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 18, 2016 -> 09:55 AM) Everyone in baseball was talking about grooming him as a future manager. His name even came up here occasionally as a Ventura replacement. Assuming Getz has the same amount of respect and leadership qualities as Kapler is a bit far-fetched. Thankfully, it can all be settled quite easily with a FutureSox in-depth interview. http://kaplifestyle.com The Kapler situation is one where he has soent his entire adult life studying areas of nutrition/diet, fitness, weight lifting and advanced analytics for all aspects. He's more like a life coach and motivational speaker. He's a brand in the same way Jessica Alba's $1.4 billion valuated Honest Company is...and he wanted to use that LA market to his advantage in terms of marketing and career opportunities. I think they should have hired Jessica Alba as manager honestly.

QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 18, 2016 -> 09:43 AM) I think my dream package that would be out of asking price for red sox is benintendi/devers/rodriguez/kopech/2 wild cards I think I'd be disappointed in less than benintendi/devers/rodriguez/2-3 wildcards. They may not be the beat your socks off packages people wanted, but I think some are motivated off more the idea of punishing the team we trade with than actually finding a deal with both parties. Though Sale/Q are amazing and cheap, there is still a lot of risk that they get injured and if you trade your whole farm system - you are out of a job. There needs to be some realism and frankly I think most red sox fans would think giving up a benintendi level prospect alone gets them out of giving up a rodriguez/devers 2nd tier. I think that's ultimately what they'd end up getting. Beninetendi/Devers, pitching, some wildcards and possibly Swihart.

Gabe Kapler retired in 2012. he coached one year in the WBC for Team Israel. 1 year later he became the Director of Player Development for the Dodgers without any experience. He's super into analytics and nutrition and converted all of the prospect meals into gluten free stuff. Maybe Chris Getz is similar to Kapler where he has an actual "player development plan" that delves into nutrition, analytics and other factors. We have no idea. But assuming it's a s***ty hire because it's the White Sox is incredibly short-sighted and it's honestly b****ing just to b****.

For me, I want Benintendi because I think he's going to be a star. I also doubt that Boston trades Moncada because of what they've invested in him. What I'd love in return: OF Benintendi, 3B Devers, LHP Groome, RHP Kopech, C Swihart. What I would take: OF Benintendi, 3B Devers, OF Basabi, C Swihart, LHP Rodriguez, and C Swihart. Either of those I would do.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 18, 2016 -> 09:01 AM) I read that as by 2021 they'd have to be 18 to be draft eligible. Otherwise if that players drafted in 2018 had to be 18 by 2021, that would mean they would be 15 when drafted, not 16, and that doesn't make sense. Okay. So players could be drafted at 16 and 17 years old in the 2018, 2019, and 2020 drafts but 18+ starting in 2021. That makes sense.

QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 17, 2016 -> 02:14 PM) He has a backup QB, is on their third string rb, lost his #2 WR. The bears talent on offense is nonexistent, but are able to execute a similar game plan to Gase in that it can now waste time. You seem to occupy this weird zone where it's everyones fault and no ones fault. It was hot takes when we correctly pointed out after preseason chiefs game that this team had no talent. It was hot takes after game one. Now that their rookie OC is starting to put things together with this group of terrible, he should be fired. OK. I just think having Brian Hoyer throw the ball 45+ times per game isn't a recipe for success. They have the best RB on the roster playing right now. Him being #3 is a weak argument. The rest I pretty much agree with. Injuries are their main issue but I don't think Loggains has helped matters. This team is probably 3-3 with Cutler healthy but it doesn't really matter.

Sounds like wishful thinking but it would be ideal if the Sox could spend over their pool amount for 2017 and then International Draft takes effect in 2018.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 18, 2016 -> 07:30 AM) I love that they are going to raise the signing age to 18 instead of 16. I believe it said that players would have to be 18 by 2021. They could still be signed as 16 year olds.

QUOTE (Dunt @ Oct 17, 2016 -> 05:54 PM) I really don't think they rebuild. I am thinking they do end up dealing Sale, but instead of rebuilding, it's sort of a retooling. Move Sale and get JBJ, Devers, Kopech, and Rodriguez and then grab someone who can play LF and move Melky to DH. If they did something like that, next year could be really interesting: Eaton RF JBJ CF Abreu 1B Cespedes LF Melky DH Frazier 3B Saladino/Lawrie 2B Avila? C Anderson SS Quintana L Gonzalez R Rodon L Rodriguez R Fulmer R They aren't giving up the 12th pick in the draft to sign Cespedes

QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 17, 2016 -> 10:31 AM) Again, I will credit Loggains for getting back on track. I was scared after first two games that he was unable to do what Gase had, which was sustain long drives (even if unscoring) to keep defense off field and limit total opportunities for opposing offense. Yesterday was THAT times ten, and until we get a more opportunistic defense, I think it's a great strategy. Re: mcnown. That mcnown-marcus robinson year was really fun. One of the losing seasons you are fine with because it seemed like things were trending. Back on track? They've scored the fewest points in the league and he has Hoyer averaging 45+ passing attempts per game. He should have been fired today.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Oct 17, 2016 -> 10:57 AM) It took a couple of years, but I feel like O'Donnell has turned into a pretty damn good punter. I think his net average is the worst in the NFL actually. It was last week.

Bears played a ton of these winnable games last season. They just had a QB that was able to overcome everything else and win a few of them. Hoyer is not that guy.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Oct 14, 2016 -> 10:01 AM) Title is wrong. Capra is new 3B coach. Hasler is new bullpen coach. My bad. Can a mod fix it for me? Thanks.

http://m.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article/206...-coach-changes/

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Oct 13, 2016 -> 12:12 PM) Unless Arrieta gives a discount he's going to be paid in the $30M per year range in free agency. That would mean in 2018 they would have roughly $86M tied up in just Heyward, Lester and Arrieta. That is a hell of a lot of money for any team to have committed to just three players. I think if they win the world series, they will trade Arrieta this winter.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Oct 13, 2016 -> 01:04 PM) Talent wise they were loaded but apparently something just didn't mesh right. It was frustrating because if they snuck into the playoffs they would have been able to throw a cy young caliber Loaiza, Colon, Buehrle and Garland at people with 2 of the best relievers in baseball at the back end of the pen, not to mention all the big bats. Frustrating team. Yeah that team was fun. Magglio, Lee, and Rowand in the OF. Konerko, Crede, Valentin, Robby Alomar and Everett. Tom Gordon and Marte were both really good. 86-76. Just not enough

QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 12, 2016 -> 07:12 PM) So then ... the problem isn't Loggains, it's Hoyer. Clearly bears offense has improved, along with Loggains play calling. He did get a wide open Jeffery that was missed. It's both. Loggains ran the ball 17 times. He let Brian Hoyer throw on 70% of their offensive plays. It's really dumb.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 12, 2016 -> 11:19 AM) The other side to the 4 vs 6 years argument is Jake Arrietta. He had plenty of roster time before he got to the Cubs. If it is a guy you like, and a guy that fills a hole, I see nothing wrong with it. When are the Sox planning on being good again though? If it's 2 years from now, then your CF is on a 2 year deal. Unless JR decides to pay Bradley which is doubtful. He is a Scott Boras client.