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362 pages and 2 months of speculation for a guy that isn't even that good. I wanted Cespedes too. This whole thing is absurd though.

QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 02:15 PM) Why would they ever think it would be less? 6 years is one thing but 4-5 years you do it, IMO. It was never realistic to expect him to take anything less than 4 at minimum. I think they probably thought that they could get him for 4 years. Nobody else was offering 5 years from what has been reported.

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 02:12 PM) Having the extra pool money available is very valuable, though. We could use the money from our third pick on top of the second to sign someone who otherwise wouldn't have signed at slot value. I recall a recent article that detailed how the Astros were doing exactly this to acquire talent. It's very valuable Flash, I've explained this numerous times. Nobody cares.

QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 02:11 PM) That whole waiting out the OF thing worked out pretty well for the Sox... Gordon back to KC, Upton to Det, etc. Can't say I'm surprised because this organization is a s*** show sometimes but still pretty disappointed. Not sure the Sox were ever guaranteeing 5 years though. I'm going to see what his contract looks like before I start speaking in absolutes about anything.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 02:06 PM) It's the 28th pick. There will be a great player available, but will the White Sox choose him? If you look at the actual 28th pick the last 7 years, there is one guy you wouldn't trade for Dexter Fowler, and that is Gerrit Cole who was selected with the 28th pick in 2008 by the Yankees. One problem, he didn't sign. The fact that the Sox would still have their normal draft intact makes giving up the draft pick no big deal to me, and it keep his suitors and therefore price tag a little lower. $70 million is plenty of justification. Would you trade Spencer Adams for him?

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 01:29 PM) I hope we don't sign him, either...... But only after we've expressed interest, are quoted as being among the finalist, and are outbid by another team. That way it'll be a clean sweep this season of losing out in our targets! They targeted Frazier and Lawrie and got both of them.....

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 01:00 PM) Are you driving Chris Sale to the airport? I would trade Chris Sale for Bryce Harper in a second

QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 10:50 AM) Again, who has said more than 3 years has been offered by the Sox? Brian has said that the report is nonsense. His word has been good all offseason both privately and publicly. The White Sox want the 3 year thing out there but by no means is it an absolute. It's just regurgitated nonsense that people keep repeating because it's easier to fit the "White Sox are cheap" narrative instead of a negotiating tactic.

QUOTE (daggins @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 10:45 AM) By all accounts, that is the case. edit - well all national accts. Options to me means they don't want more than 3 guaranteed years. It's not the case. Don't people read? I mean f***ing seriously....

QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 09:50 AM) I know it is just some dude, but i cant resist posting it here: https://twitter.com/chisox2727/status/690197432303484928 OMG CESPEDES IS IN TOWN!!!!!!!!

QUOTE (Al Lopez's Ghost @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 09:38 AM) Bernstein has always been a Sox fan...he loved Calderon growing up, and they have a tape of him meeting Harry Caray in the Sox announcers booth back in the day. Mully, Goff, Bernstein, and Laurence Holmes are the Sox fans at The Score. Producer Chris Tannehill is as well. The Cubs are probably the NL favorites right now and 670 is their new flagship. The White Sox haven't made the playoffs since 2008. Why should the discussion on the station be any different? I love the White Sox but they haven't exactly earned any air time.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 08:45 AM) I really have the feeling the White Sox are the only serious bidders out there. I agree. I've had this feeling for awhile.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 08:16 AM) Signing Fowler also improves the team WAR. The catastrophe of not getting Cespedes is way overblown. He's clearly the better player, but there are other ways to win. There is probably an 8.7852%-15.464 % chacnce Fowler is actually better the next 3 years. And it sets the White Sox up a player for the big free agent class of 2018 if he would take 3 years. Jim Essian, Kirk McCaskill, Kevin Bell, Todd Cruz (wanna buy a watch), Tex Wortham. True. I don't think the White Sox want to give up that draft pick though. I would agree with them if true. Fowler isn't good enough to give up that pick for. He offers OBP and would be a nice fit in the 2 spot. He'd upgrade the team. Like it's been debated here though, I'd rather sign Austin Jackson for even cheaper and take the defensive value and chance at an offensive bounce back from a guy that won't have to play primarily at Safeco anymore.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 07:35 AM) I didn't say I believed it. I just said I had a hard time believing IF they offered that. I think the Sox are at 4 years and he wants 6. And that's fine. I just don't know why it keeps getting mentioned. It's a negotiation tactic. The White Sox know that they can't get Cespedes on a 3 year deal. There's absolutely no reason to keep regurgitating it.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jan 21, 2016 -> 07:13 AM) I just have a hard time thinking the sox are a finalist only offering 3 years. I could see the mets because they were just in the World Series. They aren't only offering 3 years. Why do people keep believing this?

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 02:29 PM) LOL, I had him #13. I was high on Clark, Guerrero (highest), Carlos Perez, Antonio Rodriguez and Jordan Stephens (highest). I was low on Hawkins (per usual), Adolfo, Alvarez and Lowry. Guys like Brennan and Lowry could move really fast once they become relievers officially.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 01:33 PM) Thank you. Guys with QO's left are Dexter Fowler, Ian Desmond, Howie Kendrick, and Yovani Gallardo. So with that, Sox could draft as high as 24, correct? Best case would be Fowler to Orioles and Gallardo to a team like Houston. That puts the Sox at #26. I can't see anyone giving up a 1st rounder for Desmond or Kendrick at this point.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 02:13 PM) Regarding the Angels, I've been wondering about them but their beat said yesterday they don't want to go over the luxury tax. Now that could change on a dime. And the White Sox dumbass beat reporters have all said that the Sox are most likely done as well

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 12:30 PM) Close to it, yeah. Danish all 5's and 6's, Guerrero 6's and 7's with one 5. Just for fun, prospects who had the widest range of opinions among the writers: Zangari, Clark, Alvarez, Peter, Lowry, Perez, Narvaez. Relatively anyway. Also, players who had just one of the seven writers in the discussion actually place them in their T30: Wheeler, Heidenreich, Cherry, Alfaro, Comito, Reyes, Goldberg, Leyer, Delmonico. That's how messy the back end was. I take ir raBBit put Brain Clark in the top 10?

The White Sox estimated bonus pool for the 2016 draft is $9,477,248.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 11:16 AM) If the Sox do sign Cespedes, I want it to be in the next ~25 minutes so my friend and I can celebrate in study hall together. If twitter were around when I was in high school I never would have made it to class

QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 20, 2016 -> 10:17 AM) I think Jim Bowden said the 3 finalists thing today As for my opinion, Nats seem to be in to raise the price for the Mets It's a Jim Bowden report. he said Nationals, White Sox, and Mets are finalists.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 09:52 PM) whitesoxdave ‏@barstoolWSD 36m36 minutes ago Goddamnit the white sox better sign Cespedes The guy people were using as a source earlier during Cespedrama is seemingly just a fan. raBBit went over this. Don't people read? Dave's source was an agent buddy of his. It was going around amongst agents that White Sox and Cespedes had a deal. It was planted by agents to get the market started. Dave didn't lie. He just got bad info.

QUOTE (Saufley @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 03:20 PM) I believe a Cespedes signing would help with the attendance and fan base but, wonder what affect in $$ and actual numbers? I really don't think Cespedes would help attendance actually

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jan 19, 2016 -> 01:27 PM) So basically, all we have on the Sox is that Rodriguez guy's tweet. And that's all you are going to have. The White Sox don't leak generally. In situations like this, they don't leak until it's done.