Chicago White Sox

QUOTE (danman31 @ May 17, 2012 -> 10:46 PM) What's wrong with Sanchez? .313 average, .382 OBP. Granted he doesn't have much power, but at least he isn't one of the hitters with inflated stats at BB&T. And he doesn't turn 20 for another month. As you said he doesn't have a lot of power, but he's got plenty of time to develop some.

QUOTE (iamshack @ May 17, 2012 -> 10:46 PM) As for the OPS stat, you can use whatever stats you'd like...just make sure they account for his on-base challenges... He's a god damn 23 year old Cuban. He came to this country with almost no discipline, yet he's already made significant progress. Last year as a 22 year in AAA he walked in 8.9% of his PAs and posted a .364 OBP. That's f***ing great for a young, aggressive hitter like himself. His on-base percentage will grow as he continues to become a more selective hitter. Again, I'm not sure what peoples' beef is with Viciedo. For some reason people like to ignore the progress he made last year.

QUOTE (shakes @ May 17, 2012 -> 09:30 PM) Agreed. His bat speed is special and his pitch recognition is improving. The inpatience around here can be laughable. He is 23 and has a ton of potential. He is the last guy to consider trading. Agree completely. Plus we have one guy in our entire system (Trayce Thompson) with the potential to be a three or four hitter and he's a huge longshot to make it. And let me correct myself before someone else does, Viciedo now has 324 career at-bats. He's basically had half a season in the majors. I'm not sure what people were expecting from him at this point.

QUOTE (jamesdiego @ May 17, 2012 -> 09:15 PM) I'd rather have Stults than that bum Ohman Agree, especially since Robin will continue to use him against too many righties.

QUOTE (iamshack @ May 17, 2012 -> 09:10 PM) He has. And I was also referring to his minor league production. His service time coming into this season was .123, so no he really hasn't. And what were you referring to with his minor league statistics?

QUOTE (iamshack @ May 17, 2012 -> 08:17 PM) It wouldn't be his first hot streak..he does it every year...he did it in 2010 when we were rounding out that 26-5 streak or whatever it was... The kid has 210 career at-bats, yet you talk like he's been on the team for years.

QUOTE (ScottyDo @ May 17, 2012 -> 07:14 PM) It's not the rightness or wrongness that makes me want to call things like this out. It's the impatience. Everybody in their right mind knows you give a 23 year-old, notoriously slow starter with high upside more than a month before you call for his removal. I don't care if you're in win-now mode or not, you still give Viciedo a shot. Thank you. This is a 23 year old with 210 career at-bats. What you see now is not what you'll be getting in the future. The kid is talented as f*** and will only get better with time.

So Peavy's option is insane, but Hamels' extremely long and expensive deal makes sense? Let the Yankees suffer the consequences of signing Hamels long-term, not that Jerry would anyways. As for Hamilton, if every team is scared of signing him to a Pujols/Fielder deal then maybe KW would have some interest. However, some team is likely to offer him a monster deal and there's just too much risk with him. And even if the offers are shorter, we're still unlikely to be the highest bidder.

QUOTE (danman31 @ May 16, 2012 -> 11:00 PM) He's probably not all that different. He walks a lot of righties. Would have to be used exclusively against lefties. Ohman dominates lefties, but can't get righties out. Where do you get the minor league splits from?

For the people on the "let's hope we suck so we can sell" kick, what exactly do we have to sell and how much are we really going to get for them?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 17, 2012 -> 12:10 PM) This. Youkilis does not fit where the Sox are going. Where exactly are the Sox going? You keep saying we are rebuilding which simply isn't true. I know you follow our minor league system and there's very little talent down there. A true rebuild would take years upon years of losing, which I know you are against of as well. I'm sure the front office feels the exact same way. This team is trying to balance developing young talent with winning now. Sending Morel down to AAA to figure things out and acquiring a cheap stop-gap might help us toward both goals. I'm not saying Youkilis is that guy, but it's way too early to rule out a move that helps the major league roster this season.

How long before the Sox call up Septimo and DFA Ohman?

QUOTE (Marty34 @ May 16, 2012 -> 05:26 PM) I guess concerns over Danks and Humber's performances and Sale's elbow are just musings. But what rotation doesn't have similar concerns? Tell me this, how many AL rotations would take over the Sox?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 13, 2012 -> 07:19 PM) All I'm saying is that Stewart had something like a 7.88 ERA against all MLB teams not named the Twins at the conclusion of 2011. Why would you trust the same guy who recommended both Stewart and Frasor (and Frasor pitched about as "averagely" as possible, about like David Riske when we had him)...wouldn't you get a second opinion? If we plugged in Reddick into our outfield (dealing Santos to the Red Sox instead) and had the luxury of sending Viciedo down right now, we'd be in first place and have the depth to move Dunn eventually and maybe even get something decent in return. I'll agree with Marty on one point. How likely is it that we compete in 2013 or 2014 when you're going to be in process of "on the job training" for 2-3 starters at the same time, and nobody knows for sure how long Sale's elbow will hold out? Was Paddy even in the organization when the original Ejax trade was made? Even if he was, I think it's a huge reach to assume he made any reccomendations on either Stewart or Frasor.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 12, 2012 -> 05:13 PM) This is the part where you got hung up on. I know Marty has an agenda, but why do you think this team has no chance to win?

QUOTE (Sockin @ May 11, 2012 -> 04:42 PM) Sale is back in the rotation. MRI was fine. https://twitter.com/#!/laurencewholmes/...063681411387392 f*** yes! Thank you KW for finally making a god damn decision!

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 11, 2012 -> 01:24 PM) And trust me, I have no problems replacing Morel with someone better. Fair enough. Morel's back is definitely a growing concern to me. There's really no way to know how much it's affecting him right now.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 11, 2012 -> 01:11 PM) Morel is also about 10 years younger, and not getting paid $13 million a year to suck. Having back problems at such a young age may not be a positive. When did Crede start developing his?

QUOTE (flavum @ May 11, 2012 -> 10:23 AM) I's ridiculous to even think about making moves right now. Until the Tigers show they can go on a run, the Sox aren't out of it. The wild card is also a decent possibility. While the AL East has to beat up on each other, we have 36 games left against two of the most god awful teams in the Twins and Royals. That's 28% of our remaining games against pure garbage.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 11, 2012 -> 12:52 PM) He is a 3rd baseman with back problems. We've seen how this story ends. Should we give up on Morel then?

That trip to L.A. next week is going suck for our players. No travel days before or after and they come back to Chicago and immediately have a day game.

QUOTE (MAX @ May 10, 2012 -> 12:42 AM) We have him signed (option) next year for twenty something million. We don't need to do anything long term like that now. Exactly. If Peavy pitches like this the rest of the way, then you simply pick up his option at the end of the season. The $22 million may seem like a lot, but the marginal cost is really $18 million and if you have to overpay any position on a year deal a legit ace is by far the spot to do so. Regardless, there is absolutely no reason to rush into anything stupid.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ May 9, 2012 -> 05:34 PM) Do you want KW around for 2-3 more years to rebuild? What the f*** does KW have to do with platooning Viciedo? Sometimes I think you're a very knowledgable fan, but then you go ahead and make some of the most ridiculously biased statements on this site.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ May 9, 2012 -> 05:09 PM) Viciedo should not see the field against RH pitching right now. Best lineup against righties would be: Fukudome Beckham Dunn Konerko De Aza Rios AJ Ramirez Lillibridge I'm all for resting Viciedo against tough RHP, but you do not under any circumstance completely platoon him. Then again, each time you make statements like this, I'm more convinced you are a troll. Your dislike of Viciedo is beyond unreasonable. We're talking about a 23 year old with 209 major league ABs, yet you're already to discard of him.

QUOTE (ChrisLikesBaseball @ May 9, 2012 -> 05:00 PM) Morel scratched with back soreness, per Bleacher Report. Escobar to start in his place. I really wish we had a better reserve infielder to use against RHP. Escobar has no business on the major league roster.