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So we’re wasting a 40 man roster spot on a 27 year old defensive specialist while at the beginning phase of a rebuild?

He’s 27 years old with a 20 grade hit tool. I get he’s a plus athlete, but his bat won’t play in the big leagues.

Based on the projected roster above, we would need to make room for three roster spots. Thorpe being 60 day IL’d is one. Eisert seems like he will be on the chopping block soon enough. No fucking clue why we just picked up a 27 year old with a 20 grade hit tool if it means DFAing someone else.

Didn’t catch that, adjust above now

We appear to be looking at something like this: Lineup: 1B: Vaughn 2B: Baldwin# SS: Amaya 3B: Vargas LF: Benintendi* CF: Robert RF: Slater DH: Sosa CA: Lee Bench: BC: Thaiss* IF: Maton* OF: Taylor OF: Jankowski* / Waiver Rotation: Burke Cannon Martin Perez* Smith Bullpen: CL: Clevinger SU: Ellard* SU: Leasure MR: Booser* MR: Murfee MR: Gilbert* MR: Visal LR: Wilson

Was about to post who was Greg Jones as he’s already listed on the 40 man roster, but you beat me to it!

FWIW, fringier guys on the 40 man roster missing from Charlotte: Oscar Colas Brandon Eisert Jordan Leasure Thorpe can be moved to the 60 day IL to free up a spot, but my guess is those are three guys most at risk for a DFA.

These are your guesses?

I’m not a big believer that Canario will work out given his contact issues, but there’s no reason not to pick him up and use him as a platoon OF. Against LHP: Slater, DH Robert, CF Benintendi, LF Vaughn, 1B Vargas, 3B Sosa, 2B Canario, RF Lee, CA Amaya, SS Taylor would be the odd man out here, but so be it, I was never a big fan of his addition. Obviously things could change when Tauchman & Rojas come back and whenever Teel, Quero, Meidroth, Montgomery, Ramos, etc. force the need for a roster spot, but we should have a window here to get a glimpse of what Canario is capable of without making other permanent roster decisions.

Neither has a professional at-bat correct? I’m guessing they will be very short lived assignments. Otherwise, I don’t feel like Saucke should be ahead of either of them.

Rotation sounds like it will be: Burke Cannon Martin Perez Smith The latter two aren’t official yet, but it’s what Merkik is implying.

I don’t anticipate Montgomery & McLain being at Low A very long…agree it’s just about allowing them to get their feet wet in a low stress environment before early season promotions to High A.

Oh f***!

Sorry, I just meant that 26 man roster is static during spring training and doesnt reflect any of the NRI’s likely to make it.

Is this thread title actually based on reality or a random White Sox page that isn’t updated in real time?

To be fair, he’s replaced a ton of the pro scouts over the course of the season last year. He also rebuilt our Analytics department. IMO, it’s just too early to evaluate him on player acquisition at this time. As I said before, the trades last offseason are trending in the wrong direction, but we got to see if the structural investments pay off moving forward or if Getz is just bad at evaluating talent.

It’s way too fucking early to grade Getz, but gun to head I’d give him a C. Too many posters are scoring based on his previous role and 2024 on-field results, but it’s the behind the scenes stuff that really matters. Unfortunately, it will take some time before we can confirm if those changes will right the ship, but at least we know he’s making structural investments and bringing in outside voices in hopes of bringing us out of the Stone Age. Also, the additions of Venable & McKinvin to the coaching staff are super exciting to me and a good sign that Getz has some sort of vision (or is able to sell people on one at least). On the roster side of things, the results have been mixed. I don’t get as worked up as others on the scrap heap signings. They serve a purpose if they aren’t blocking a major league ready prospect and so far Getz has had some hits & misses, but that should be expected when shopping in the bargain bin. The one obvious exception being Maldonado, who was a dumb signing from the get go. The only meaningful FA he signed in Fedde was an absolute home run. His pick up of Smith in the Rule 5 is looking super promising and he has done a decent job of grabbing talent off the waiver wire even if there haven’t been any huge hits yet. In a constrained environment, he done an ok job here. Unfortunately, his trades are trending the wrong way. Fletcher & DeLoach look like busts. Thorpe & Berrora are both injured. Zavala & Iriarte both regressed. S. Wilson demoted and unclaimed. The Vargas deal will look light until we see some actual production out of him. Not much left to be excited about with the Bummer trade. The Crochet trade looks good on paper, so we got to hope that Getz is getting better with experience and/or has better pro scouts in place to support his decision-making. Let’s definitely cross fingers there.

Wow, hopefully Baldwin is the primary SS then. As big of a Meidroth fan I am and how little I value spring training results, it’s really hard to say he forced the issue. And in a losing season, you might as well manipulate that service time.

I do agree with that…but I just think we should hold him responsible for his new job responsibilities as GM until Ishbia comes aboard and brings in his own guy.

Because he didn’t he create those messes as GM? Why I am penalizing his performance as GM because of his performance of his last role? It doesn’t make any sense whatsoever.

How much of the self destruction is on Getz vs. Grifol though? We don’t know if Getz was pushing to fire Grifol earlier in the season and Jerry simply told him no. Not sure what else Getz could have done? He tried picking up vets off the scrap heap to help out after the slow start and once the injuries started piling up but those opportunities were always going to be limited. And again, this isn’t giving him a free pass. He certainly contributed to building a historically bad team, but I’m not sure what another GM would have done substantially different last year with all the constraints with Jerry as owner.

Well that’s true, but that’s also a different debate than the one I having 😁

Show me where I said he was blameless. I have ripped him for shreds for all sorts of stuff. I just think more of the blame for our on-field results last year fall on Jerry, KW, & Hahn. And I don’t think the results would have been radically different with another GM if they had the same constraints Chris had.

I really don’t understand what you are getting at here. I have never once defended Getz’s track record as the head of our player development, but what does that have to do with his performance as our GM last year? In his previous role, he wasn’t in charge of resource allocation for the org. We have no idea what technology upgrades he was proposing to KW & Rick that were ultimately rejected. We do know that he’s made considerable investments in this area as GM this year. Whether those eventually change the trajectory of our player development function remains to be seen, but it was never going to be a flip a switch and suddenly everything is fixed. They still have to take the data from the physical technology and pair it with their new R&D function to create the actual insights that will drive player development. Hopefully we start seeing some real progress in this area next year and if not then flame away.

How was he supposed to overcome the lack of talent on the major league roster and in the upper minors in one offseason with no resources. He went out and added Fletcher & DeLoach, two guys you were excited about, to help address our OF depth. Are those misses on him or the Pro Scouting staff he gutted over the course of the season? That’s a perfect example of why it’s so hard to judge Getz at this point in time. So far, he’s had to rely on people he’s actively looking to replace to help guide his decision making. Hopefully that’s no longer the case and it will be much easier to assess Chris moving forward. What are the other landmines are you referring to?