Loaiza21

We had our chance to take it all this year. And we folded.... So Williams isn't getting us anyone.... WELL I'M SICK OF THIS BULLs*** FIRE KENNY

I was thinking of just stickin in a pic of brit on the other side lol

My mom is like 52.

Colon loves his money. He'd rather go to Anaheim and lose.

The White Sox had like $15 M on the table...WTF?

That's my grin lol

That'd be awesome! Come on Eddie, come to ChiTown!

This is a good article. Sox may be ready to shop, swap December 7, 2003 BY DOUG PADILLA Staff Reporter Advertisement It appears all that was needed to heat up the annual winter meetings was the offseason renewal of an East Coast rivalry. The meetings don't begin until Friday in New Orleans, but it seems that recently completed deals by the Boston Red Sox and New York Yankees have raised expectations that other teams will get into the action. "I think Boston and New York have gotten a lot of people in the mood,'' White Sox general manager Ken Williams said. Like he did last offseason, Williams had been saying that he didn't expect much activity until after the meetings. He now has changed his tune. "I think that I'm sensing a little more urgency for clubs to get things in place this year,'' he said. "Within the last week, the activity has been increasing. [usually], you don't see this happen before the meetings. But now you could have more active winter meetings out there.'' After the Red Sox acquired pitcher Curt Schilling in a trade with the Arizona Diamondbacks, the Yankees followed by grabbing pitcher Javier Vazquez in a deal with the Montreal Expos. If the Red Sox somehow can land shortstop Alex Rodriguez in a trade with the Texas Rangers, a counter move by the Yankees certainly will be interesting. As for the White Sox, they are in the market for at least one starting pitcher, a middle reliever, a second baseman and a center fielder. With talk that the Sox might want better payroll balance, several players have been mentioned in trade rumors, including left fielder Carlos Lee, first baseman Paul Konerko, shortstop Jose Valentin and right fielder Magglio Ordonez, who will make $14 million next season. "I wake up in the morning and see that the Yankees and Red Sox have acquired somebody else and say, 'Damn, another one,''' Williams said. "But they are like the rest of us. They only have 25 men that they can field, so there are still a lot of other players out there. "For a club like ours, there is not a major overhaul needed. We need to replace what we appear to be losing on the free-agent market.'' That would be second baseman Roberto Alomar and outfielder Carl Everett, two July acquisitions last season that were thought to be the pieces the Sox needed to make a playoff push. Reliever Tom Gordon already has signed with the Yankees, and starting pitcher Bartolo Colon appears to be close to a deal with the Anaheim Angels, although the Yankees remain in the picture for him, too. The Sox, who are expected to offer Colon salary arbitration by the deadline today, have a chance to keep him if his other options fall through. Williams is watching the transaction wire, figuring that he no longer will have the option of staying patient if there is any more activity. "It depends on how this last week is leading up to the meetings,'' Williams said. Is it possible that Williams might make a significant move before arriving in New Orleans? "Maybe,'' he said. Williams' activity has been minimal at his first three winter meetings as a GM, but his discussions with Montreal Expos GM Omar Minaya last year led to the Sox acquiring Colon a month later. "The last few years have been slow in developing for us,'' Williams said. "I think the only year I made a deal at the winter meetings, it was one that I wish I could turn back the clock on.'' On Dec. 13, 2001, Williams dealt starting pitchers Kip Wells and Josh Fogg and reliever Sean Lowe to the Pittsburgh Pirates for starting pitcher Todd Ritchie, who was a bust in his only season with the Sox. Williams figures to be shopping next weekend and is hoping for better luck. "There are more balls in the air this year than there have been in the past few years, but that's necessitated by the fact that we have a few more holes because of the free agents that are exiting,'' he said. Williams might give himself a day off before spring training begins, but he promises to do all he can to field the best team possible under the Sox' self-imposed $60 million payroll. "There is not a lull in conversations between general managers with the exception of Christmas Day,'' Williams said. "That's the only day I can honestly say I haven't had a conversation with another club. That's just the nature of the job.''

I really really like the idea of Guardado as a White Sox.

Brian Cooper - S - San Francisco Giants Dec 6 Giants signed RHP Brian Cooper to a minor league contract. Cooper went 15-9 with a 3.68 ERA for Triple-A Charlotte last season. The former Angel and Blue Jay isn't anything more than a Triple-A pitcher, but he should help Fresno. Looks like we lost Coop.

I was there.

I say we just get whatever will help us! Sound good?

Let's grab Danys Baez and Roberto Hernandez cheap. Then go get Sullivan back. We'll be set. I mean with that rotation I don't see the pen being used as much as last year.

Borass. When will teams learn not to deal with him? 15 M for 5 years! For Millwood? I'd say he's only worth 7 M a year.

So far I know that Perez is about 99% a White Sox and that Colon is leaning towards the White Sox. Buehrle Colon Loaiza Perez Garland That'd be awesome... Now put Frank at 1B and get us a bat.

I've been high on Uribe since 2002. He hit .300 his rookie year, was the Rockies #1 SS prospect/hitting prospect. He's just 24. It'll be awesome if he plays full time. He beats up on the AL Central pitchers. He's just the guy we need. I think it's a steal. He's got some power too!

Zebby looks like a big part of the family there.

??!?!??!?!?!?!?!?! I attached mine, on the right with the FLAG

Posted on Sat, Nov. 29, 2003 Colon may run out of options other than White Sox BY PHIL ROGERS Chicago Tribune CHICAGO - (KRT) - Some Chicago White Sox fans want to believe Ken Williams was using gamesmanship when he said a month ago that Bartolo Colon had moved beyond the team's limited means. These stubborn souls believe Colon could wind up back with the Sox, where he is comfortable. There's a very slim chance they are right too. Club sources indicate the Sox cling to a hope that the pitching dominos will fall in a way that leads Colon back to Chicago, provided Williams can trim a salary or two so he can afford a $20 million rotation. Recent developments have encouraged those in the Keep Colon movement, most notably Boston surfacing as the surprise winner of the Curt Schilling sweepstakes and Anaheim settling for Kelvim Escobar. Now the attention shifts to a pair of squirming Texans, who find themselves involved in one of the strangest dances of the off-season. Houston Astros owner Drayton McLane doesn't really want to sign Andy Pettitte, not to the tune of $30 million over three years. He has been losing money for years on a team that never has gotten past the first round of the playoffs. Even after trading Billy Wagner, he's already on the hook for about $55 million in 2004 to eight players, including $36 million to Jeff Bagwell, Richard Hidalgo and Jeff Kent. McLane wants another $10 million salary like he wants a dip in the price of Wal-Mart stock. But he engaged in a bit of face-saving posturing by meeting with Pettitte, who pitched for the Houston area's Deer Park High School and San Jacinto Junior College. He wanted to create the impression he was interested without following through. McLane figured he could stick his toe in the water without getting wet because Pettitte is sure to get a better offer from the New York Yankees. The thing McLane didn't figure on is how badly Laura Pettitte wants to become a year-round resident of the Houston area. According to some who know the Pettittes, the pitcher is getting pressure to try to hammer out a deal with the Astros, who have teased their fans with the possibility. Pettitte is comfortable in New York and doesn't have the kind of ego that returning as a hometown savior would feed. But he is a family man who could yield to pressure to stay home, no matter what the Yankees offer. Those in the Keep Colon movement hope that George Steinbrenner finds a way to re-sign Pettitte. If Pettitte does stay in New York, the market for Colon seemingly would be reduced to Philadelphia, Baltimore and, if they can find a make the money work, the White Sox. With Schilling gone the Phillies are making a push to re-sign Kevin Millwood. You would have to wonder how attractive either of those Eastern markets would be for Colon, who has spent most of his career in the Midwest. But, then again, don't be sure the Yankees will be satisfied with just re-signing Pettitte. That only gives them Pettitte, Mike Mussina, Jeff Weaver, Jose Contreras and Jon Lieber under control. Some believe Steinbrenner's appetite, and budget, would keep him interested in signing Colon and trading for Montreal's Javier Vazquez. It's also possible the Yankees will try to get David Wells to accept a minor-league contract loaded with incentives. For the moment the Yankees appear to be preoccupied with completing a deal with Gary Sheffield to fill their hole in right field, where Karim Garcia played during the postseason. Change of agents: Since Kerry Wood was a senior at Grand Prairie (Texas) High School, Alan and Randy Hendricks have represented him. But there will be new faces across the table when Cubs general manager Jim Hendry opens negotiations on a contract extension next month. The Hendricks brothers recently left SFX, the mega-agent firm that had merged with them a few years ago. Wood opted to remain with SFX, who will have agents Greg Landry, Pat Rooney and Arn Tellem represent him. Under the Hendricks' direction, Wood signed only one-year contracts with the Cubs. That puts him one year away from free agency. The club expects to sign him to an extension, but it will be a complicated negotiation. Wood has been an ace at times but never has won more than 14 games in a season. The Cubs' pitching depth makes a trade conceivable, but it's hard to see how a top contender could let such a talent go. If Wood doesn't sign a multiyear contract, he could be headed for an ugly arbitration case and a year of questions about his status, which will a distraction for manager Dusty Baker's team. Looking East: The Dodgers, who are sitting on a Paul Konerko offer from the White Sox, are considering signing South Korean slugger Seung-Yeop Lee to fill their hole at first base. Lee, 27, is known as "the Lion King." He set an Asian record with 56 homers last season for the Samsung Lions but has not excited scouts during spring-training visits to the Cubs and Marlins camps. "The Dodgers have always been pioneers internationally," GM Dan Evans said. "We're not afraid to take a risk. ... We're weighing the risk-reward factor." The Dodgers also are kicking the tires on shortstop Kazuo Matsui but are unlikely to have the resources to win a major bidding war while their ownership transfer is pending approval. The Yankees, Seattle, Anaheim, Baltimore, San Francisco and the Mets are among those interested in Matsui, who has indicated he would move to second base to play alongside Derek Jeter. He's a switch-hitting speedster who could help either Chicago team, but there have been no signs of interest. Doing the math: For the second year in a row, Pythagorean standings (a Bill James tool that uses runs scored and runs allowed to figure expected victories and losses) show the White Sox, not the Twins, should have won the AL Central. In 2002 and `03, the Sox outscored their opponents by 134 runs and were 10 games above .500; the Twins were 45 games above .500 while outscoring their opponents by 99 runs. No wonder Ron Gardenhire outlasted Jerry Manuel. For what it's worth, the 2003 Pythagorean standings show the Cubs should have finished third in the NL Central, behind Houston and St. Louis. It suggests manager Jimy Williams cost the Astros eight victories and Tony La Russa cost St. Louis four while Baker was a plus-two. It also shows Seattle would have won the AL West if Bob Melvin had not cost it six victories. The biggest gain was_surprise!_the plus-seven by Cincinnati managers Bob Boone and Dave Miley, who went 69-93 with a team that deserved to lose 100. Whispers: Look for Miley to get the Reds' job on a permanent basis. Manuel is among the four finalists in that job search. ... Florida has only one more week to negotiate a new contract with Ivan Rodriguez because it agreed not to offer salary arbitration when it signed him to a one-year contract. He reportedly is looking for five years at $10 million a year but will wind up once again being a bargain for someone. ... The Derrek Lee trade makes it likely the Marlins will re-sign Luis Castillo and Mike Lowell, with Jeff Conine and Hee Seop Choi sharing first base and Miguel Cabrera remaining in right field. ... La Russa sees Albert Pujols as a full-time first baseman after trading Tino Martinez to Tampa Bay. The Cardinals are looking to sign a left fielder who can hit at the top of the order. They also would like to use the $1.5 million they saved in the Martinez deal to re-sign Mike DeJean as a setup man. Tampa Bay is not done with significant moves. The Devil Rays have made a two-year offer to reliever Tom Gordon and want to sign one proven hitter from a group that includes Juan Gonzalez, Reggie Sanders, Jose Cruz Jr., Rondell White and Brad Fullmer. ... While the United States won't have a baseball team in the 2004 Olympics, some Americans will be playing for different countries. Among those is Chicago's Erik Pappas, a former Cubs and Cardinals catcher who will be on the Greek team put together by Orioles owner Peter Angelos. White Sox second baseman Aaron Miles is also a possibility for that team, which only requires that one of your grandparents was born in Greece. ... The Blue Jays have not begun talking about an extension with Carlos Delgado, who is eligible for free agency after 2004.

I don't understand how he could hit .420 in AAA and then a buck fifty in the bigs.

Yes if I do remember correctly we almost dealt Garland to Anaheim two offseason's past.

The want players who hate the Sox

I found Rowand in the Puerto Rican Leagues http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/componen...up.jsp#santurce

Go here http://www.nypost.com/sports/mets/43199.htm