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QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Oct 24, 2009 -> 10:21 AM) Nix is better then Getz on both offense and defense. Getz will hit for a better average, with less power and less of an ability to get on base. Getz was really, below-average last year, but hell he's a grinder so let's give him the benefit of the doubt. The double standard on expectations that some people have between Nix and Getz baffles me. Getz proves himself a hard-nosed player with limited offense and defense skills, and he's our future lead-off man. Nix hits a dozen homeruns, and plays great defense, and he needs to be begging for a job. Defense? No question. Nix is better. But offense? Getz really has him there in every facet besides power. Just check out their minor league lines - Getz - .286/.362/.380, 168BB/143K over 5 seasons. He averaged 72 walks to 61K's per 162 games. Nix - .261/.332/.415, 302BB/675K over 9 seasons. He averaged 56 walks to 126 K's per 162 games. Getz made contact on 88.7% of pitches he swung at this season, Nix only made contact on 78%. Getz hits for a higher average, strikes out less and walks more than Nix. He doesn't have the power that Nix does, but he can hit both righties and lefties, something Nix can't.

QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Oct 24, 2009 -> 01:55 PM) I would rather sign Uribe to a cheap 1 year deal to fill that 3b spot until Viciedo is ready. Uribe is aweful behind the plate but the dude still plays solid defense- he did a pretty good job filling for SF when Sanchez went down and he also did a hell of a job for us when Crede wen't down in 2008. I don't want to see Fields anymore. . Uribe actually hit well this season.

QUOTE (knightni @ Oct 23, 2009 -> 06:40 PM) Now, the Cubs should get... http://www.suntimes.com/sports/1840015,cub...ach-22.article# That's a really poorly written article, hard to see how that got posted.

QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Oct 23, 2009 -> 04:56 PM) Is Ellsbury really that awful in CF? He certainly wasn't an awful defensive CF as a prospect. He had something like a -16 UZR in CF this season IIRC.

QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Oct 23, 2009 -> 05:41 PM) Really? I love Alexei, but Bard is wicked and Ellsbury is one of my favorite players. If we made Bard the 2010 closer - and I don't think that is a huge stretch BTW - then we'd have a closer, another righty setup man to push Pena into a specialist role where he has done well, we wouldn't have to rely on Linebrink, and we'd solve the OF and lead-off situations by pushing Rios to RF. All we'd need after that is a second lefty in the pen, a SS, and hopefully a big lefty bat. But we'd cut payroll in the deal, so we could sign a lefty to DH (Abreu? Damon? Matsui?) on a short-term deal, and then we could trade for a defense-first SS and another lefty reliever. That deal would rock, but I don't think it's realistic at all. On talent alone we rape the Red Sox IMO. I'd think that Alexei would have a ton of value to the BoSox seeing as he'd fill the shortstop void they've had so much trouble with cheaply, but I don't see where Bobby fits in here. Maybe Alexei for Jacoby and Okajima, and go after Scutaro.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Oct 23, 2009 -> 05:26 PM) Agreed completely. Though Buster Olney said earlier today that he sees both Soxs trading. He mentioned Jenks and Alexei to the Red Sox for Bard, Ellsbury, and Okajima. Again.. that was his proposal. Where did you read/hear this?

QUOTE (lostfan @ Oct 23, 2009 -> 02:46 PM) I don't actually know Nix's numbers vs. RHP and I only have to assume it sucks. I'm only going off the few times this year that I saw him do anything vs. RHP, and he didn't look good. He very well may improve if given time. He may have hit a wall vs. MLB RHP. I don't know. I'm just saying what I see. .194/.292/.326

Can you input some sort of IQ test that you have to pass to make an account here or something?

QUOTE (East Side Z @ Oct 23, 2009 -> 02:54 PM) How many HR's did he have last year in a limited amount of AB's?? He hit 12, 8 of them against left handers where he produced an acceptable line for a bench player - .256/.326/.496. Against righties, he hit 4, and produced a .194/.292/.328 line. Unless the Sox face only left handed pitchers next season, Nix should be on the bench.

QUOTE (East Side Z @ Oct 23, 2009 -> 02:53 PM) If he hits .260 with 22 hrs playing avarage 3rd base..and maybe 80 RBI's ..........What would you say then? I would point out that it would be the only the second time he had ever eclipsed 20 HR or 80 RBI during his entire professional career and that he probably racked up about 150 K's while doing it. Oh hey, more reasons not to start the guy. His "pop" is within the 15-20 range. People are pegging him as some perennial 25-30 HR threat that he just isn't.

QUOTE (East Side Z @ Oct 23, 2009 -> 02:49 PM) When he gets 500-600 at bats and hits .220 then i will belive you untill then,its all speculation on my part and yours........... He hit .261/.332/.415 in the minors over 3250 AB's. Starting Nix at 3rd is the infield equivalent of starting DeWayne Wise in CF.

Is this guy serious?

QUOTE (scenario @ Oct 23, 2009 -> 10:26 AM) 5'10" 190 is a midget? Not sure most people who see him on the field could tell the difference in size between CJ and either Jayson Nix or Lillibridge (both 5'11" and around 190). And fellow former SunDevil Dustin Pedroia is shorter than CJ. He does not look 5'10. He looks Pedroia-sized, I think that is a favorable listing, like CC's weight, etc.

I don't understand why everyone is calling him Weezy 2, this guy actually hit in the minors.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Oct 16, 2009 -> 09:45 AM) I'd rather take a chance on a younger player that has fallen out of favor on his team like Conor Jackson. Our pitching is good enough to hold us afloat through some growing pains in the beginning of the season. Maybe Kelly Johnson? IIRC he was a great defender in left before the Braves moved him to second.

QUOTE (WCSox @ Oct 15, 2009 -> 03:10 PM) IF I'm looking to deal Hudson, I'm on the phone with the Nats discussing Zimmerman. He still has 2-3 years left under team control, no? The Nats just signed him to a 5 year deal or something last offseason, I highly doubt he's going anywhere. He is the type of player we need to find though, if we could get an impact bat at 3rd and move Becks to second, we'd have one absolutely insane offensive infield.

QUOTE (WCSox @ Oct 15, 2009 -> 02:06 PM) Given that Upton's value took a hit this year and is likely to go back up when he produces next year, it would arguably make more sense to deal Crawford, who is only under contract for one more year and is a lot more expensive than Upton. That could be true, but Crawford has proven to be the more consistent player and I'm sure the Rays still see themselves as a contender in 2010. Crawford projects to be a better offensive player next season and has already signed one contract to stay in Tampa Bay, whereas Upton is going to start getting more expensive soon as well. I don't want to look like I'm saying we should go trade Hudson for Upton or some other crazy trade idea, I just wanted to use him as an example of what I believe Hudson could be worth right now.

The Rays are supposedly looking to clear room in their outfield for Desmond Jennings, if they can get value like Hudson for him, I'm sure they'd deal him. I'm not advocating trading Hudson, but I am saying that I'd much rather move him before a proven, high-quality commodity like Buehrle or Floyd.

Trading Mark Buehrle could and probably would be a critical mistake for next season. I certainly don't want to deal with another 2007/2009 again next year, especially when our starting pitching makes us such a threat in the playoffs. Sure, Mark makes a lot of money. 14M isn't anything to laugh at and could probably net Nick Johnson + 2 relievers and have change left over, but do you really think some team is going to eat all of MB's contract AND give us fair value for him? Trading a legit pitcher like Buehrle is a mistake, look at what has happened to the Indians over the past two years, they traded both CC and Lee and it's looking like both trades are going to end up biting them. Even signing one of those guys long term and letting the other walk nets them an Ace for years and two draft picks. Instead they have LaPorta, who looks like he's going to be the only success from either trade, and a bunch of injured/underperforming prospects from the Phillies' farm. I can understand the logic behind looking around for a trade. If the Nationals say "Hey, we'll give you Willingham and the Zimmermans while paying all of MB's salary", then Kenny had better pull the f***ing trigger, but how likely is something like that to really happen? Mark Buehrle's most value is to us. We have a pitcher on our staff by the name of John Danks who is strikingly similar to MB, but he has stronger stuff. Let Burls give Danks advice and mentor him so he can pass the torch down in two years. I'll gladly take his mid-3 ERA and 200+ innings over the next two seasons out of the #4 slot while we mow down our mediocre division. If we really need to trade a pitcher, look at Daniel Hudson. His value will probably never be higher than it is right now, and we could probably make a killing off of him due to his low cost which would enable us to trade him to a smaller market team. I can live with relying on Freddy Garcia in the #5 spot, and some one like Hudson could be the centerpiece of a trade for a starting outfielder along the lines of a B.J. Upton or Hunter Pence.

I'd gladly swap Hudson for Gamel. You're probably buying low on an impact bat and selling high on a possible mid-rotation starter.

He's a non-tender candidate, we wouldn't have to give up that much.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Oct 4, 2009 -> 10:52 AM) No. Health is an issue and the guy is an ass hole. Asshole, yes. But moving to the bullpen may help him with the health problems.

Anyone else think we should look into signing this guy to set up with Thornton? It'd give us two nasty set up arms behind Jenks, and Myers has previous closer history if Bobby can't rebound.

QUOTE (joeynach @ Oct 3, 2009 -> 11:35 AM) On top of all that we broke in Getz and Nix into the full time mix and go see what those guys are really all about. I was thoroughly pleased with Getz; played great D, stole bases, hit for average. It would be nice to see him add a bit of power and extra base hits, but hes still very young. When it comes to Nix he played ok D, I was a little dissapointed due to the fact that he was regarded as a + glove man, but hes still young too. Nix has a bit more pop in his bat, but struck out way too much and had trouble hitting for average. It was good to break these guys in though, most likely one of them will turn into an everyday starter for years to come. Nix was far superior to Getz on defense.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Oct 1, 2009 -> 03:03 AM) I really wish.