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QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Dec 7, 2011 -> 06:48 PM) So Mark Buehrle becomes a free agent, and neither of those two teams makes him an offer, so now he's a bad guy, huh? Genius. Mark can still retire in either spot. He's 16 years younger than Jamie Joyed, btw. I repeat. Neighed the White Sox nor the Cardinals offered him a contract. To keep your respect, he has to retire? Oh, yeah Steve, it's ok, I don't expect you to know what emotion is after you s*** on Santos for crying on TV.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 7, 2011 -> 06:20 PM) Which one of those teams made him an offer? It pretty easy: NONE The White Sox had every chance to extend the guy even before he hit the market. They didnt think it was a priority apparently. Then he should never have said it. Over and over. And over. And over. And over. Look, I pretty much hate the team now, despise Ozzie, and I'm not rooting for Mark as long as he is a Miami Marlin. The Nats, the Rangers, the Red Sox, etc. all the teams but Cubs, Twins, and Marlins I could have still rooted for him. Let me be a vindictive, scorned girlfriend. I hope he enjoys the circus down there.

Mark, I love you. Go pitch your ass into the Hall of Fame. Retire #56 right now. Don't win another ring. But I can't root for him while he wears that jersey.

Just woke up. Had a text message. f*** Buehrle and f*** the Marlins. "I want to retire a Cardinal or a White Sock and play close to home." My ass. I love him, but man...screw you Mark. I won't ever believe another player again when they "aren't in it for the money." Except Paul Konerko. That man means it.

I f***ing loved this guy. I remember talking to him before his first outing in the BP. He was shocked anyone knew his name. f*** this trade. I'm OK with getting Molina back and it makes sense due to Reed, but man, Sergio, he's awesome.

QUOTE (kwolf68 @ Dec 7, 2011 -> 11:54 AM) The fact I misspelled their names? The fact that Kenny wanted an Emperor's Ransom.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 7, 2011 -> 12:20 PM) They offered him 1 year 14 million or whatever the number was. I think it became clear as of yesterday that he's out of their plans, so no offers. Personally I was hoping St Louis would jump in with any offer so he could go there and retire happy instead of being forced to move somewhere else. This is the most depressing post I've ever seen because it'sfrom Rock. QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Dec 7, 2011 -> 12:33 PM) Then he can retire, which is something he so craves, instead of having to play so far away from home, which seems to have been the bane of his existence. This. I'll always love Mark Buehrle, but I will despise the sight of him for a few years.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 7, 2011 -> 02:20 AM) Good column by Rogers. False.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 7, 2011 -> 01:43 AM) If the Sox try to make Mark out to be the bad guy, that would be utter bulls***. He's total class. I will effectively dislike both parties (as much as I can) if he signs elsewhere. Mark for lying about close to home and retiring soon. Sox for not resigning him.

1. Chicago . . . . . . . 2. New York . . . . . 3. Portland 4. Seattle.

QUOTE (BigEdWalsh @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 01:32 PM) The HOF is really the Hall of The Very Good. There are a lot of players in there who probably shouldn't be. The Hall just isn't as exclusive as it originally was. I think it's sad though that Santo didn't get in while he was alive, and I hated the guy as a player and a broadcaster. This, just as now it will probably be the case with Minnie, not getting in while he's still alive. All of the Hall of Fame's need to have a separate room dedicated to the greats. Example: NBA HoF. Rose is already in.

So, whats our prospect rankings right now? # 1 Reed # 2 Molina # 3 Thompson... then who else? Marinez and Martinez? Petricka? Walker? Mitchell?

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 08:45 PM) I understand going for the money. I really do. But with most guys, they don't repeat over and over again how much being close to home and wanting to retire means to them. I doubt A-Rod was talking about wanting to play closer to New York or the Dominican Republic, perhaps retiring at the end of whichever contract he was on at the time, etc. This. It'll be hard for me to root for Mark on any of those teams after all he's said.

QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 08:07 PM) If KW was to give up on Ethier,Street, Gonzalez, Hudson, Wallace and Nelson Cruz like the overrated guy has, this site would be b****ing for many years.. Also, since he traded away C Gonzalez, he got nothing for Haren as well. Beane is the most overrated GM ever. QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 08:45 PM) You might be right...I'd rather roll the dice on 2 future Johan Santanas or Francisco Lirianos in A ball than one closer to the big leagues in Molina. Also ironic that we're acquiring more Venezuelans with Ozzie gone. And I forgot to mention the Quentin/Carter deal, too. FROM baseballamerica.com (sorry if already posted) The Blue Jays have an enviable amount of depth in their farm system and could afford to trade Molina, even though he was on the verge of pitching in the big leagues. Molina originally signed as a third baseman in April 2006. He moved to the mound in 2007, throwing just one inning in the Summer League. He returned in 2008 and made 20 appearances, completing the transition. Prior to 2011, Molina had made just 77 career appearances, four of which were starts. Toronto had their sights set on giving him a chance to start, assigning him to the high Class A Dunedin rotation. He flourished in the move, throwing 130 innings between Dunedin and Double-A New Hampshire while striking out more than a batter per inning and walking about one per nine. Molina has above-average command of a fastball that ranges from 88-93 mph. He originally tried to turn his slurvy breaking ball into a slider, but he has shifted to using a curveball now. Molina has a legitimate out-pitch in his splitter, and he also shows feel for a straight changeup. His secondary stuff doesn't jump off the page, but his fastball command helps it play up. He profiles nicely in the back of a rotation and will likely make his big league debut in 2012. Interesting, sounds a lot like Santos' career trajectory without the dominating fastball in the mid 90's. And he's a starter...

Um, keep Beckham.

Molina better be badass. I have no worries about Reed, he's a machine designed to get people out, but I want a great return for Sergio Santos.

f*** you Robin Ventura.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 03:46 PM) After all of the bumbling f***-ups by KW the last three years, this is what finally knocked you off? This is nothing compared to losing Gio the second time and Hudson. I really loved Santos, hell I talked to him before his first game and was going to buy a Sergio jersey tee-shirt his first f***ing week as a big leaguer. He was signed for six years and all we get is...one prospect...when f***ing Papelbon is getting $50M+...ugh. I think Reed can do it...but Sergio showed he could. He was a legitimate closer.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 03:38 PM) Pretty sure the KW train derailed about 3 years ago. I was still somewhat on it. But our farm better be f***ing stacked by the end of this offseason.

QUOTE (PlaySumFnJurny @ Dec 5, 2011 -> 10:43 AM) He didn't deserve it either. Less, than Ronnie imo. Except he did. 9 time all star, 3 GG, .298 avg, .398 OBP, .848 OPS, and thats without his negro league numbers and history.

What the f***. Man, I loved Sergio. Getting only one player for him is a failure. And Buehrle leaving free agency? f*** it. I'm off the KW train. But blow the f***ing team up. Blow it the f*** up. But seriously, Molina looks good. But what the f***? Needed something else.

http://www.faniq.com/blog/Super-Religious-...hoops-Blog-5842 I was reading this article and it linked me here. I was like "Wtf? Soxtalk?" We're so cool.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 5, 2011 -> 12:44 PM) Q, you are usually a very observant poster... what are you talking about? 12 of 16. 12... of 16. There are 16 votes total. You need 12 - which is 75% - to get in. Minoso got 9, which is 3 short of the necessary 12. He got 75% of 75%. I thought Minoso might have a not Golden Era panel and this one had 12 members. You said he got 9 of 12...so I didn't that that as he got 9 of 12 necessary votes out of 16, I read it as 9 of twelve total.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 5, 2011 -> 12:08 PM) 12 gets you in, out of 16. So he needed a 100% approval? What the f***?

How does 9/12 not get in? That's 75%...