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QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 6, 2010 -> 01:50 AM) Great post caufield. I respect your posts. My major beef is this is not an issue anywhere besides this message board. Regular fans think Ozzie is fine. We are 16 f***ing games over .500 and just swept Boston on the road and some people are wanting him fired NOW. It is totally insane and is a MESSAGE BOARD PHENOMENON. It just is. It's ridiculous. He is a good manager. As proof of this I'll ask "Where is Rongey?" Me thinks he realizes we all are insane, f***ing insane and has left. He went through some personal things and kind of shut down for a while.

QUOTE (J.Reedfan8 @ Sep 5, 2010 -> 11:54 PM) Bears got back seven players on PS. LeFevour was claimed by the Bengals. (who have been snatching up guys he let go left and right it seems) Shaw was claimed by the Titans. Gilbert by the Jets.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Sep 6, 2010 -> 12:19 AM) Ok, EJax strikeouts Over/Under.... 10.5 Over

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Sep 5, 2010 -> 11:44 PM) Prove Balta wrong.

I really like Afalava, Shaw, LeFevour, Beekman, and Gilbert. Damn.

6-0 since the arrival of the Manny Christ.

QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Sep 5, 2010 -> 05:10 PM) im done hating yon pierre anhd teahen i love you allk even tyler flowersx the froidhard i loveyou nall go sox lets win this thing all my ernemiesz are dead ai love you all kets sewe this thing on mmon ground i lovwe the sox let6s gos!!!!!

QUOTE (chw42 @ Sep 4, 2010 -> 03:20 AM) Greg doesn't think Dye is bad at defense. Dude, he has a Gold Glove.

If the age doesn't come with it, Jerry. If it does, Kenny.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Sep 4, 2010 -> 01:09 AM) Did Mark's dog s*** on your lawn or something?

QUOTE (ScottyDo @ Sep 3, 2010 -> 06:24 PM) Yum. And right now, that's the best trio to send out.

Sox Wars VI: Return of the Manny

*Riff* Working hard to get my fill

QUOTE (daggins @ Sep 2, 2010 -> 01:24 AM) You won't get anything for Quentin, he's just meat at this point. Danks will net a lot but not Gonzalez since the Pads already have young, cheap pitching that can win in that godawful excuse for a ballpark. That pen is bottom 5 in MLB.Team could probably win 80 games in a good year, 75 or so on average. I'm pretty sure a Danks-Danks2-Quentin package would net A-Gon. That's a package that could get almost anyone in the game, especially if the Pads can't resign A-Gon. Plus, the Pads will need 2 new starters next year assuming Correia and Garland walk. About the pen, you're really overestimating how good pens are around the MLB. Putz can't be worse than Bobby Santos is only going to grow as his arm builds up stregnth. Thornton is Thornton. Leesman can't be worse than Randy Williams (I'm not sure anyone can...) Infante has a chance to be next years Santos with his fastball. Harrell could probably give you what Pena can. Linebrink is there. Also, no way an offense with Pierre-Crawford-Rios-Gonzalez-Paulie-Beckham-Flowers-Morel-Alexei is bad. You have a high average speedster leading off, 4 above average to elite bats following him, then high on-base guy in Gordon, a slugging catcher who can be no worse than AJ, a guy who gives every indication he'll hit for an average around .280 probably and a good average/sometimes power guy in Alexei A rotation with new and improved Jackson 2.0, Buehrle, Floyd after May, a healthy adapted to AL Peavy and Chris Sale who's given every indication he has good stuff isn't getting pushed around to 75 wins on average. Also, I did some math and figured contracts. Assuming you sign Crawford for 16M a year, A-Gon for 18M the first year, Paulie for 10M, and Putz for 7M, and Vizquel for the same cash you get a payroll of: Rotation: $43M Lineup: $60.1M Pen: $15.5M Bench: $7.45M Total: $126.05M Now, my gut tells me there is no possible way that JR pays that, but my gut also told me we wouldn't absorb Rios', Peavy's, and Manny's contracts in their entirety either. The team has money and I think JR would spend it on those 4 if he could.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Sep 2, 2010 -> 01:06 AM) What the hell? I have no idea where this came from. But I like it. That's easily a top 3 team in the AL. I will say though they better figure out something with Pena. They traded a quality 1B/LF prospect for him. The play he made in LF last night was incredible. I underestimated his athleticism. I think I saw caufield listing off potential players to trade and saw Quentin and my brain just went off.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 1, 2010 -> 11:46 PM) Therein lies the dilemma...we're not going to get anything substantial of value in return for Buehrle, and it's going to be difficult to replace those innings. The biggest risks would be trading either Danks, Floyd or Thornton (if Sale's to stay in the pen), but those are the players who can bring equal talent back. We're obviously not going to trade Beckham or Ramirez, Rios' contract is at best "fair" but certainly not a bargain and everyone in baseball knows all the issues associated with Carlos Quentin. After Danks/Floyd/Thornton, you'd have to look at trading either Viciedo or Mitchell, and I don't see that happening either. The idea of trading Jackson isn't logical to me, because where in baseball are we going to find someone who is an ace for $8 million? Trade Quentin and Danks 1&2 in some mega package if Danks doesn't resign for some huge bat. Perhaps A-Gon if you could get him to agree to a deal. Then, non-tender Bobby and Pena and the money saved from not paying Bobby, Quentin, Pena, or Danks could be used to resigning Paulie for DH/1B platoon with AGon, resign Putz for the BP, and try and woo Carl Crawford to play CF (I know he's a great LF, but with Rios in right and Pierre in left, Crawford would probably thrive in center, just not as much as LF). Move Sale to the rotation and have this: Starting Five: Buehrle-Jackson-Sale-Floyd-Peavy LF - Pierre CF - Crawford RF - Rios (had to break up the lefties) DH - Paulie 1B - Gonzalez 2B - Beckham C - AJ (only if he's cheap, if not, Flowers) 3B - Morel (I can't stand the thought of Teahen there and Vizquel won't start) SS - Alexei Bench: CF/LF/2B/SS/3B - Lillibridge RF/1B/RF/LF/3B Emergency - Teahen 2B/SS/3B - Vizquel C - Castro Bullpen: CL - Putz SU - Thornton SU - Santos MRP - Linebrink MRP - Infante LRP - Harrell LRP - Leesman (if he does well in the AFL) I have no idea where my brain went off on this tanget.

QUOTE (Cali @ Sep 1, 2010 -> 10:45 AM) Are they really trying to call Chapman, the Cuban Missle? That 'Nick is spoken for..... When Alexei hits a walk off HR in the WS against Chapman, Chapman will be the Cuban Missile. And Alexei will be the Cuban f***ing Rocket.

QUOTE (Real @ Sep 1, 2010 -> 10:12 PM) It was a walkoff hit Thought Tigers were at home.

Twins take 2-1 lead. ****.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 1, 2010 -> 04:46 PM) NOOOOoooooo NOOOOOOOooooo OH NOOOOOOO Santos and Sale are certainly two of the luckier things that we've gotten this year. One will be our ace of the future and the other the closer.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Sep 1, 2010 -> 05:47 PM) 4 year deal? Yikes. I would offer 2 years/21M, but someone like the Red Sox will offer him 3 years/38M, and I bet he would take that. Year 3 is a team option though and the fourth is a "Hey look, you're the best first basemen in White Sox history, so stay if you want" year. For the record, I consider Paulie the best 1B because of his defense, though Frank the far and away better hitter (and DH). Also, only way Paulie wins the MVP is if Hamilton slumps down to like .340 and Paulie magically finishes with a .330 average.

I would have called up Lucy to be a pinch runner at the least for Castro and AJ

At this point, I'm offering Paulie this: Year 1: $12M Year 2: $10M Year 3: $9M/Team Option Year 4: $8M/Player Option He's just so good when healthy and if Dayan takes over at 1B next year, Paulie will be able to DH and stay even healthier.

Excited about Infante.