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QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 19, 2010 -> 10:15 PM) I can't believe how much this thread livened up once the Sox started losing the game. I thought the same.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Sep 19, 2010 -> 10:12 PM) There ya go Morel! Please, PLEASE tump Teahen somewhere! I can't see Morel doing well without thinking how happy you are.

QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ Sep 19, 2010 -> 09:22 PM) thats why its not all on ozzie about the whole dh thing. kw could have gotten someone at the break and failed to do so. he could have but didnt want to give up anything to get them. and anyways,i dont think the hitting cost us the division, to me it was the pitching. those games the pen blew did it. (cant be blowing 3 run saves) He offered Edwin Jackson and Tyler Flowers for Adam Dunn and had a deal in place for Berkman. Ozzie is to blame for the DH situation aside from the .1% Kenny gets for letting Ozzie decide it.

Carlos Quentin had a better play at the wall than Juan Pierre. Let that sink in.

Damnit Sizemore.

ESPN demonstrates the circle change instead of showing the game.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 12:15 AM) Ah gotcha. Unless she wears those jeans a couple of sizes larger (which is going to look stupid) then her ass is going to show. Now the other times where she does interviews in a halter top, yes that's inappropriate. Not this though. On Fox, the reporter kept mentioning her jeans and her reply was "that's my size". Nothing wrong there.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 12:09 AM) How would you suggest she not do that? Her ass is big and that's why her pants are tight and not vice versa (they don't make womens jeans the same way they do for men). There's women who dress like that at my job where the dress code is business attire (on dress down days). Nobody is drooling because you can see the shape of a woman's behind through her pants. And I'm already conceding the issue of the locker room but I don't know why any reporters are in there to begin with. Like someone else mentioned they have separate interviews in the NBA where its mandatory and players get fined for ducking the media. I don't see why they can't do this in the NFL. I put wrong in quotations because it I'm siding with her. All she did wrong was wear her size jeans in an unlucky environment. So really, nothing.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 17, 2010 -> 11:57 PM) I still want someone to explain to me what's wrong with the jeans she was wearing. I'm getting pretty bored with arguments by assertion repeating the same thing without addressing this when I've condeded all the other points. What was 'wrong' was she wore tight jeans that displayed her ass prominently in a very testosterone filled locker room.

Is anyone else under the impression that all reporters should you know, just wear suits to an MLB, NFL, NBA, or NHL game? That is unless they are a local writer familiar with the team (Cowley), then I'd probably be fine with semi-casual. But when you're going everywhere around the nation on national TV, try to look your most professional.

God, Morel is so good. I want him to be the starting 3B next year.

I want Gordon Beckham to do so well with the Sox for so long that in the future between Paul Konerko and Ted Lyons on the OF wall is #15

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Sep 17, 2010 -> 02:27 AM) I'm lovin' this Butter Parque guy. Maybe it's because I have the munchies and I want a giant tub of butter popcorn with extra salt?

QUOTE (Butter Parque @ Sep 16, 2010 -> 12:16 PM) This is Peavy's third straight season spending significant time on the DL. So, by your logic, then every player who has a bad year is to blame instead of his bosses who keep him here for it. I guess Mark Kotsay only has himself to blame for our second place finish. Gordon bunting was his best option early on,at least he could hope for a throwing error. I think I saw how Putz did in the closer's role when called upon against Detroit. I didn't say Linebrink cost us a lot of games, but in July, if Ozzie would have brought Linebrink into a 1 run lead, your would have been calling for his head. Thome had pretty high OBP's for us in his last two seasons, but I didn't notice him making much of a difference game in and game out. Thome has the same amount of home runs in a hundred less AB's this season. Do you really think he would have looked reborn with us? Fat Chance. He also has one more double than last season already and 36 less strikeouts. In the same way that Lew Ford, Danny Valencia, Jason Tyner and Doug Mientkiewicz probably wouldn't hit the same way for other teams as they do with Minnesota, the same can be said about Thome. I truly believe Thome would have had a similar season for us this year, that he had last year, and while that may still be much better than Kotsay, that also doesn't make him a difference maker. Where did I say that? Go on, point it out. It's on players as much as it is management. Should we have dumped Paulie after 2007 or even last year? No. on the other side, did we ride out Quentin's tenure? Yes, but Kenny tried to trade him. In 2008 Peavy missed a handful of starts, a lot of starters do. This and last year have been freak injuries for him. Gordon bunting was not the best option. I remember countless posts raving about how taking the bat out of his hands could mess with his confidence and for all we know it could have. I was at the game where Putz blew it. He had a knee injury at this point. I never hated Linebrink and early in the year he showed he could get it done. I have not cringed once at his pitching this year, just his contract. It doesn't matter if Thome would do the same with us, he would have been an improvement over Kotsay and taken away from the Twins. They would have lost a major bat. Plus, not many people made a difference in 2009. Alex Rios didn't, Paul Konerko was ok. There weren't many difference makers on the '09 team.

I voted Infante, Viciedo at 1B/DH, and Morel. I think there is no way Chris Sale isn't a starter in some capacity next year.

See poll. Viciedo & Sale counted twice for differing roles.

Also, you know what? The Mark Teahen trade was not terrible. We traded a piece of crap third baseman who is worse defensively than Teahen, gives no hustle, and can't hit a fastball along with a second baseman with the power of Juan Pierre, no average, average at best defense, and has more magical injuries than anyone in the world. Also, over a full season Teahen had never been this bad defensively. What was bad was the extension, thats it.

QUOTE (Butter Parque @ Sep 15, 2010 -> 08:52 PM) So basically everyone here is saying that Ozzie is the reason Mark Teahen is the world's dullest player and should never be a starter for a contending team. It's Ozzie's fault that Kenny traded a good young pitcher who had some success here for an injury-riddled, expensive pitcher who was below average and then surprisingly suffered another serious injury. It's Ozzie's fault that Carlos Quentin's 2008 season was a mere abberation. It's Ozzie's fault that Bobby Jenks is a fat piece of s*** and wasn't available when we needed him the most. It's Ozzie's fault that he had a AAA 2nd lefty out of the bullpen who he couldn't use unless he was up or below 6 runs, thus forcing him to drastically overuse Thornton early in the season. It's Ozzie's fault that Scott Linebrink is a waste of flesh who pitches like Randy Williams, except makes closers money/ It's Ozzie's fault that his supposed best player (Beckham) was a mental midget for the first 3 months. Ozzie is far from the best manager in the world, but anyone who thinks this season is his fault is out of their mind. People forget Jim Thome hit .245 and .249 for us his last 2 years. Don't people remember him striking out in huge situations on most occasions at the tail end of his stay here. The guy was great for awhile but he was taking up space at the end. Kenny was a fool to listen to Ozzie about Kotsay, Ozzie isn't a personnel director. Kenny is his boss, he should have known better. Ozzie was rid of Teahen soon enouugh. Peavy was not injury riddled before he came here. He's had two freak injuries. Also, the Clayton Richard overvaluing needs to stop. He was a 5th starter at best here. Quentin's blame is solely on him. Ozzie had two other closers in the pen available. Not Ozzie's fault for Williams. Scott Linebrink has not lost the Sox an unworldly amount of games this year. He's been fine, just massively overpaid. Ozzie didn't do Gordon any favors by having him bunt into outs to start the year, but thats on Gordon. Ozzie is responsible 99% for the rotating DH bulls***. Thome had low averages but an OBP of .362 and .372 in those years. I'd be fine with both of them back next year, but I prefer Kenny all the way to Ozzie and that's because Ozzie is the one who insisted on playing NL style slappy run baseball and run into out after out after out after out.

Good job Omar.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 15, 2010 -> 07:46 PM) It's comical how Hudson is now one of the most untouchable young pitchers in baseball. Even Brewers fans are frustrated they didn't trade for him. Yet seemingly every team viewed him as a #3 at best.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 15, 2010 -> 07:39 PM) Fans are going to boo the Sox like crazy if Beckham cannot drive runs in. Ozzie, please give Morel or Viciedo a chance at third. Omar needs to develop.

OMAR POWA

You know what? F*** the Twins. 18 game win streak starts tonight.

Ozzie gone before Kenny, everyday of the week If Kenny were fired, the message sent to the new GM, I'm assuming Rick Hahn, would be that Ozzie has control over the roster and we'd be stuck with slappy NL style baseball players.

Paulie lost the award last night, even though he deserves it.