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I love fans saying teams won't part with some of these names. Well, you don't get Chris Sale in that case.

As a non-religious Jew, it ain't wrong. We don't sit well with people, a lot in the South.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 23, 2016 -> 01:16 PM) And Quintana's? He really hasn't been all that much less productive than Sale the last 3 years, makes less and is under control for an extra year. Super interesting. I'd say 80% of that probably. Sale's name, arsenal, and W-L puts him above Q. And this is why it sucks that we don't get to see that duo in the playoffs.

Just to frame the package for a HoF caliber pitcher under control for what a #3 or #4 starter makes, in his prime, in a thin pitching market when pitchers are getting absurd deals. Think of the biggest return ever in a trade in MLB history. That's what Sale's price is.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 23, 2016 -> 09:53 AM) These leaked emails from the Democratic party are mindlessly entertaining. You got them sending interns disguised as protestors to Trump events, media outlets with writers filing stories to the DNC ahead of their own editors, placing fake job ads for The Trump Organization looking for hot women, and on and on and on. But what happened to Bernie Sanders is disgusting. He never had a chance vs a rigged system, and these emails prove the collusion the DNC had with the Clinton campaign. Debbie Wasserman Schultz is an evil human. Wouldn't they have also revealed rigged votes, which were commonly thrown around?

Everyone knows that if you trade Sale, you need an almost guaranteed perennial All-Star in return, right? Like, Sale isn't a "well we're not winning so f*** it we'll take what we can get" trade.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 23, 2016 -> 12:32 AM) I'm honestly kind of horrified about the debates. Drumpf plays by different rules than anyone else. He could call her a dumb c***, lose no votes, and nothing Hillary could do or say would make her look okay. I just have no clue what stuff could happen on the debate stage and if Drumpf mistakes would be received as such. I doubt neutral ground is kind to him.

Aight, both of you guys calm down with the insults. You're both better than that.

QUOTE (Deadpool @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 11:24 PM) Again, Schwarber is likely a good piece. Bryant and Russell are nearly untouchable. This is a stupid discussion. The Cubs and White Sox couldn't agree on the value of Chris Sale. Injured DH missing his sophomore season after a downward trend to his rookie year for a HOF pitcher? Yeah, starts with one of the untouchables. You don't get an untouchable star like Sale. for an injured DH.

Lmao at Baez and Soler. Any Sale deal with the Cubs starts with Bryant or Russell.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 05:24 PM) He avoided it because he didn't give a f*** and he thought he didn't need the help. Don't feed me this noble Derrick bulls***, he got far too much benefit of many doubts, and he did what he wanted to do and said what he wanted to say. From how readily Joakim Noah followed him and the way his teammates spoke about him, yeah, I'm going to say he was supporting his teammates.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 03:57 PM) In non crazy people news, I support this idea: http://www.blogabull.com/2016/7/20/1223183...kup-point-guard Agreed

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 05:08 PM) Talking about Bogaerts is dumb because Boston isn't moving him, unless it for was Sale AND Q which would never happen. In the same vein, talking Sale is dumb since the Sox aren't moving him.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 05:00 PM) Have to get Urias back IMO. Any deal with the Dodgers sans Urias is a failure.

QUOTE (Deadpool @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 04:57 PM) That's like Playstation. Make it happen KennyRick To be fair, Sale is also like Playstation.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 04:43 PM) @redsoxstats The reporters on MLB Network saying the Sox are in on Sale, Quintana, Joe Smith.. saying Sox could be after a Sale & David Robertson package Are they prepared to give up Moancada, Swihart, Benintendi, and Bogaerts? *That is officially the craziest "fleecing" deal I've ever typed out.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 04:29 PM) I have to say though...the Rangers/Dodgers fans are a little more realistic with their trade ideas than Red Sox fans. We should bow down to them for even the chance to talk to such a historic franchise about a trade. Will Middlebrooks for Quintana

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 03:04 PM) No, he let his brother and BJ Armstrong do that for him. Lets not forget when Reggie was going around telling everyone who would listen that Derricks supporting cast wasnt good enough. Derrick never stepped up and quieted that, to me that is just as bad as being passive aggressive through the media by yourself Derrick specifically avoided recruiting because he didn't want to undermine his teammates. Wasn't the best plan, but he appreciated his teammates.

QUOTE (Ezio Auditore @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 02:48 PM) Jimmy. Derrick isn't passive aggressive, he's just pretty dim and oblivious to what goes on outside of his bubble. That's what I thought and I'd have to agree.

QUOTE (Ezio Auditore @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 02:42 PM) He's sooooo passive aggressive and it makes him hard to root for unless it's like directly during a game. It drove me crazy last year. Jimmy or Derrick?

QUOTE (Dunt @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 02:38 PM) Joc Pederson has put up 4.3 fWAR, 39 HR, and a wRC+ of 113 in a season and a half. That's pretty damn good. After an ugly second half last year and this year he's been equal to Frazier, so this board would hate him. He also has more concerns now than he did going into last year. I'd still trade for him as part of a package.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 02:03 PM) Things at the time that seem like great ideas don't work either. Matt Davidson, some couldn't believe the Sox fortune being able to get him. According to one very negative poster at the time of the trade, Davidson was the best 3B prospect available. The conversation was when does the Super 2 kick in. I posted BPs top 20 prospect list from 6 years ago on here a couple of months ago. If you had all of them, you would need a lot more help to be a playoff contender,just once in a while. Trading Sale with several years left on his contract better get you back actual future stars, not just guys that look like they may be them, or your rebuild makes no sense. And that is hard to do. This is my point when I say no guarantees. It could very well be the correct move, but we need to learn to not count our chickens before they hatch in trades.

QUOTE (southside hitman @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 01:50 PM) It is. I think it would be pretty awesome for him to make his debut with the Sox. He pitched for both Arizona and Cincinnati at the MLB level.

QUOTE (southside hitman @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 01:35 PM) http://www.milb.com/scoreboard/index.jsp?c...mp;ymd=20160722 Full schedule of action. Holmberg and Adams debut with Charlotte and Birmingham, respectively. So weird having Holmberg back. I keep thinking that.

Ugh, Kaine's a safe pick but I was praying for Warren v. Pence debates.