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Ideal: #1: Sale #2: Big time RHP FA. #3: Peavy #4: Danks #5: Quintana

Shutting Strasburg down is astronomically stupid for two reasons. 1) Blowing a chance at a WS 2) Probably piss Strasburg off a lot, because he knows the above.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Oct 8, 2012 -> 01:47 AM) Greg, give me one season Ozzie did well in other than '05. '05 was magical, but then by this logic we should throw a gigantic contract at Andruw Jones because he used to be an elite player.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 10, 2012 -> 01:23 PM) No baseball player "leaves a lot of money on the table." He can be just as happy somewhere else, believe me. I doubt most baseball players would even leave $1 million on the table.Some might not let it get to that point, however. Some might sign extensions or their first big contracts quietly and not let it get to free agency. Paulie & Buehrle to name two. Not every player is Ozzie.

I feel like dying in prison isn't a bad enough punishment. Can we bring back the Coliseum?

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 9, 2012 -> 06:13 PM) He threw 219 innings and put up a 3.37 ERA this year. That is the best season for a White Sox pitcher throwing more than 200 innings since Mark Buehrle in 2005. Jake Peavy was really, really good this year. By fWAR and bWAR, he was the 6th best pitcher in the AL this year, and bWAR says he was the 9th best pitcher in the majors this year. Jake Peavy was really, really good. You are right, no one is going to push him out the door for $12-13, and if they lose him for that but retain Floyd at $9.5, I'm gonna choke someone, and I love Gavin Floyd. +1

QUOTE (chw42 @ Oct 9, 2012 -> 05:41 PM) I found out that Joakim Noah does his whole pistol routine after he hits a jumper in NBA 2K13. So cool. ...considering buying again.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Oct 8, 2012 -> 01:47 AM) Greg, give me one season Ozzie did well in other than '05. '05 was magical, but then by this logic we should throw a gigantic contract at Andruw Jones because he used to be an elite player.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 9, 2012 -> 02:04 PM) When they are a freshman in college getting a 95% in a senior level class and the instructor gives Johnny a B because he got a C on his final, you bet your ass I'm going to be defend little Johnny.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 9, 2012 -> 01:36 PM) And you can't handle people giving Ozzie a bad grade. He get's a F-

QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 8, 2012 -> 06:09 PM) When I get time I'll get the records of every season. Geez I don't have a memory like some of you guys. I can't remember seasons til I look it all up. Didn't we win over .500 almost every year Oz was here? I don't care about over .500 by two or three games. I care about the playoffs.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Oct 8, 2012 -> 11:26 AM) He can't answer that without mentioning 2005, so he'll keep ignoring you and responding to other posts with answers about 2005. QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Oct 8, 2012 -> 01:47 AM) Greg, give me one season Ozzie did well in other than '05.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Oct 8, 2012 -> 01:47 AM) Greg, give me one season Ozzie did well in other than '05. I'm going to keep reposting this.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 8, 2012 -> 02:20 AM) This was a playoff team this year (once Dunn and Rios and AJP showed they came to play right out of the gate) and didn't even make the playoffs. Yet Robin is beloved just cause he never opened his mouth and the Sox were out of the news all year. Makes no sense to me. This year was a colossal failure led by Robin and nobody cares cept 4-5 of us on this board. Weird. (And I gave Robin a B. I don't want him fired). QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Oct 8, 2012 -> 01:47 AM) Greg, give me one season Ozzie did well in other than '05. '05 was magical, but then by this logic we should throw a gigantic contract at Andruw Jones because he used to be an elite player.

Greg, give me one season Ozzie did well in other than '05. '05 was magical, but then by this logic we should throw a gigantic contract at Andruw Jones because he used to be an elite player.

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I love that Greg gave himself an A

QUOTE (pktmotion @ Oct 7, 2012 -> 02:44 AM) Trade Rios/Quintana to SEA for Vargas/Olivo/Figgins Trade Floyd to BAL for Davis/Patton Decline Peavy/Liriano/Youk/AJP/Hudson/Myers resign Johnson/Wise/Olmedo Sign James Shields Sign Shaun Marcum Sign JJ Putz --------------------------------- CF Alejandro De Aza 3B Chone Figgins 1B Paul Konerko DH Adam Dunn LF Chris Davis RF Dayan Viciedo 2B Gordon Beckham C Tyler Flowers SS Alexei Ramirez BN Miguel Olivo BN Dan Johnson BN DeWayne Wise BN Ray Olmedo SP Chris Sale SP James Shields SP John Danks SP Jason Vargas SP Shaun Marcum RP Hector Santiago RP Nate Jones RP Troy Patton RP Donnie Veal RP Jesse Crain RP Matt Thornton RP Addison Reed CL JJ Putz Only good things I saw were "sign Shields" "sign Putz" and "sign Marcum" Keep me far, far away from the rest of that.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 6, 2012 -> 02:29 PM) This year proved once again how difficult it is going to be for the White Sox to win another WS in our lifetimes. Robin led a massive choke job and was simply horrible down the stretch. Cooper's pitching staff was helpless late as well. I didn't see Coop figuring out any ways to get the starters to go more than five innings or the relievers not be total horses***. And Manto's offense was ridiculously bad. As bad as any of Walker's lousy stretches. A few solo home runs as the Sox lost game after game. If Ozzie had engineered this epic collapse ... look out. There would have been so much blame laid on him and Walker. Sox had a ton of veteran players who choked. And Robin was our leader much like Oz was. The collapse would have been a lot more fun. Can you imagine the things Ozzie would have said about the Royals as Chen and Guthrie beat us game after game? And during that 1-9 death march at the end? At least it would have been exciting, not this funeral-like event of the last 3 weeks. Whether colorful Ozzie or dull Robin, it is all the same. It all boils down to 'Just win, baby.' And my point is Ozzie is the only manager in modern Sox history to win when it really counted: the season AND postseason both. World Series!!!! We won one and only one and are not gonna win another anytime soon. Yes I would be in favor of bringing back Oz in some capacity as soon as possible. p.s. Look at 'professional' Ron Washington. Three straight postseasons. No parades. It ain't easy to win it all. it takes a special team and leader. Ozzie was the man in charge of our only title. ...Ozzie talking s*** would have been infuriating. It would have been a "put your money where your mouth is." Ozzie did that many seasons ago, he's been basically s*** outside of that season. And Ron Washington is a dick.

QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Oct 6, 2012 -> 07:51 PM) The guy jumps 2 levels from A+ ball and almost helps us win a division and yet he barely avoids a B-. Excuse me while I read this headline Quintana Risks Own Life, Saves Elderly Nun From Speeding Train Sox Lefty Hoists Woman Over Shoulder At Last Instant; SoxTalk Poster greg775 Condemns Pitcher For Not Also Stopping Train f***ing sig'd.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 5, 2012 -> 01:25 PM) But that article. Ozzie unprofessional? What is this, the world Chess association? This is baseball, baby. Tobacco chewing, cussing, BASEBALL! That article made me laugh. My god. There are many things that make up baseball other than tobacco chewing and cussing. Respecting your employer, your players, other teams, and trying to win are all much more highly regarded than chewing tobacco (does anyone do this anymore? I feel like Big League Chew has to be more popular) and cussing in baseball. QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Oct 5, 2012 -> 01:35 PM) What are you talking about? Isnt Jeff Loria a self made multi millionaire through his art buying program? He's a mama's boy. Didn't earn it like Ozzie. QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 5, 2012 -> 03:00 PM) Moron manager? One with two WS rings? I don't think he's a moron. Just curious what you think of Robin. I know, Robin gets a free pass because he was a rookie manager even though he's seen about 9 million baseball games as a great player. I like Robin, but if Ozzie engineered this epic collapse, many of you would have mocked him and/or demanded his firing. Please don't deny that if this collapse woulda been run by Ozzie you'd all have wanted him on a platter. You don't get to count being a 3B Coach. Unless you're Jeff Cox, that's impossible to f*** up. And did you forget 2006? That collapse was so much f***ing worse, because the Sox should have been on their way to a dynasty.

QUOTE (GoodAsGould @ Oct 6, 2012 -> 01:43 AM) They still got the 1/2 punch with Gio/Zimmerman, I think if they lose in playoffs it won't be from the SP. Yeah, but a 1-2-3 punch would be even better. I don't think Stras is too happy either. I remember an interview earlier in the year where he said if the Nats got to the WS, you'd have to tear the ball from his hands. He might take the high road now, but I can't imagine him being happy at all.

Thome. Nats stupid for shutting down Stras though.

I'm pulling for a Baltimore-DC area World Series